Yes. I'm saying plenty of developers can sell their licenses for the app outside the App Store and use Apple Pay (or anything else). Listing and distribution is essentially free ($99/year).
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Apple Loses UK Antitrust Lawsuit Over App Store Fees, Faces £1.5 Billion in Damages
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Apple will record huge direct losses from App Store platform if all they did was charge an annual fee.
So Apple hurt consumers with their policies by keeping prices too high. So when they dropped their fees to 15% for small developers and developers did not drop price did the developers cheat consumers as well and should be subject to a class action? Do subscription apps do the same if they don’t drop prices after the first year when Apple drops their cut?
Make no mistake, the consumer won’t see lower prices if Apple drops their fee.
Make no mistake, the consumer won’t see lower prices if Apple drops their fee.
So the principal behind this is that you design, develop, launch and produce a new product and charge people to use that product to make money and you are monopolistic just because your product is succesful. This makes no sense to me in the grand scheme of of things and basically removes any motivation to develop and launch new products from which other people might make money. You might as well keep your products completely closed and only add functionality yourself. Will it be successful, who knows, but if the product is useful enough it might be. I have no idea but this desire to stop people charging you for the use of a platform they developed seems to be absolute nonsense. Talk about killing the golden goose…..
I'm not advocating for anything. And nobody is asking for what your are questioning.
We don’t know what “exclusive” deals and savings Apple has made for multi-year contracts. It could be far less or more to what we believe. Mobile phone technology has been matured for sometime now and your assertion is that only Apple seems to be developing advance technology when in reality it’s a combined effort or external, internal and collaboration. Some of these costs have already been baked in plus R&D costs. Pretending that removing accessories from products is going to fund these efforts are daft considering Apple’s stock back back efforts.
Heaven forbid anyone should use a throwaway comment alluding to a contemporary issue in an online forum! I promise to be more serious in the future.
But if one believes Apple deserves a cut of all the action going through their App Store, due to usage of Apple IP, why are we exempting Amazon? (Just picking a random example)
An iPhone is a non-specialized or encompassing product while a game console be it mobile or not is a highly specialized product and its first goal it to run and play games 100% while an iPhone is like a Swiss Army knife, good at sometimes but not everything.
Times change and peoples mentality changes, maybe you would prefer that we be enslaved to tech companies as we are already to governments with taxes.
Correct.
Smartphones are general purpose multi use computers.
That’s literally the appeal of them, right from the initial iPhone announcement.
a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod® with touch controls, and a breakthrough Internet communications device with desktop-class email, web browsing, searching and maps—into one small and lightweight handheld device.
It’s to sends message that once the Goliath Apple is brought down to its knees the rest will follow or face similar action. Have to start someplace and Apple is ripe for the pick (pardon the puns).
If the App Store's fees are artificially high because of a lack of competition, why hasn't Google Play's commission been forced lower by competition? I mean, they're open, and there are third party stores and sideloading. So why do they have the exact same commission structure as Apple? Shouldn't it have gone lower?
Apple's iPhone 12 costs 21% more to make than iPhone 11, claims new research | AppleInsider
Based on an analysis of the components in the iPhone, research firm Counterpoint estimates that multiple features such as 5G mean the iPhone 12 costs Apple a fifth more than the iPhone 11.
"Previous reports have shown that Apple has had to make design changes to accommodate 5G in the iPhone 12 range. Now research firm Counterpoint has costed the individual components and estimated the total bill of materials (BoM) at $415, or 21% more than the iPhone 11."
There's absolutely no report to suggest Apple took on pure profit from removing accessories in the iPhone 12.
“Developers were forced into using Apple's in-app purchase system and had no alternative to paying up to a 30 percent commission during that time period.”
Forced? Where they hold at gunpoint to
join the App Store?!
Forced? Where they hold at gunpoint to
join the App Store?!
You are under an illusion if you feel iOS is absolutely 100% safe and secure. Literally look up “Pegasus” etc that will open your eyes to reality or even Apps that have passed Apple’s screening permitted on the AppStore only to be removed when the harm is already done in some instances.
Could the situation be better or worse that’s hard to say but one thing is certain it’s certainly not equal.
That’s an estimated BoM, are any third-party privy to these closed manufacturing contracts, unless you work specifically for Apple in that department I suspect you wouldn’t know either and disclosing would violate your employment NDA.Apple's iPhone 12 costs 21% more to make than iPhone 11, claims new research | AppleInsider
Based on an analysis of the components in the iPhone, research firm Counterpoint estimates that multiple features such as 5G mean the iPhone 12 costs Apple a fifth more than the iPhone 11.appleinsider.com
"Previous reports have shown that Apple has had to make design changes to accommodate 5G in the iPhone 12 range. Now research firm Counterpoint has costed the individual components and estimated the total bill of materials (BoM) at $415, or 21% more than the iPhone 11."
There's absolutely no report to suggest Apple took on pure profit from removing accessories in the iPhone 12.
Yes yes, every reporting quarter Apple has demonstrated clearly that it’s struggling to maintain or exceed expectations and profits.
Proverbial gunpoint as Apple may not have been accommodating of any negotiations.
It’s because they are a smartphone company and in today’s society it’s viewed differently compared with other technology companies
You forget one thing you’re PlayStation 5 is not a smartphone and in today’s society it’s viewed differently compared with games consoles that’s why
Gatekeeper is equally made up as the term monopoly, but gatekeeper has a meaningful definition of an entity that acts as a large market bottleneck that gate keeps who enters.
Except EU have never regulated monopolies because there’s no monopolies to regulate. Eu doesn’t need to justify anything considering they have regulated large companies without any monopoly classification simply based on anti competitive practices and effective.
Do any portable game console companies have a native phone, text, web browser apps and also third-party available in their store?
People have mentioned PS Vita but fail to see that the hardware device has gaming controller on the physical device. Had it been a display and those things added with the functionality then we can have a conversation of Apple’s versus apples but until that happens I don’t see the mass public walking around with a PS Vita.
Hey GrandPa/Ma, I didn’t know you play PS Games. No Sonny this is my portable mobile device for making phone calls, texting, etc. GrandPa/Ma why not get an iPhone or Android Phone that are more suitable for the task, no Sonny some forum members on MR says a PS Vita can do the same thing. But GrandPa/Ma you don’t need physical game controls if you are not playing games, I know Sonny but MR Forum members know better than you and I. 🤪
Yes, as stated in the first paragraph "estimated the total bill of materials (BoM)".
It's an estimate as you and the article clearly pointed out. People pay analysts to figure this stuff out without violating NDA with some degree of accuracy.
Never made that argument.
The argument of Qualcomm selling LTE chips at the same price as their 5G chip is, to use your words, daft. There is nothing to suggest that the iPhone 12 cost nearly the same (or less) to produce as iPhone 11 and there are plenty of reports to suggest that it costs more.