Nope, I know gay people who do not like gender neutrality, are they conflicted too? And they definitely don’t agree with men giving birth.
Your trying to twist what I’m saying. I have no conflictions I can assure you.
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Apple Marches in San Francisco Pride Parade
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Nope, I know gay people who do not like gender neutrality, are they conflicted too? And they definitely don’t agree with men giving birth.
Your trying to twist what I’m saying. I have no conflictions I can assure you.
Yet no one here understands what you’re trying to say. Gender neutrality, men giving birth, women sharing bathrooms with strange men, etc. What havent you talked about?
So your complaining because I’ve been talking too much? I think I’ve made it perfectly clear what I’m saying, and you seem to think you talk for every member who has read this thread? I don’t think that’s a claim you can make.
I have read and re-read the post and am desperately trying to figure out how you can say one thing but mean something totally different.
The fact you don’t want to explain it suggests you can’t.
And you say you haven’t said anything hateful then say those things about trans people without actually knowing what you’re talking about. Educate yourself before “going off on one”.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/
Gender Dysphoria on the NHS
But you probably know better.
It is a mental illness and sick, and I can’t help you if you can’t comprehend what I said. You obviously did not read what I said, not sure how many times I can tell you that. But you ‘believe’ you know better..
I also think about the child, not the sick parents. I hate the fact the NHS fails to recognise it as mental illness, and should be spending its money on better things, my money... I don’t need to educate myself of anything, nature’s design is not for male humans to give birth...
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Location is irrelevant. To say that location matters, is to say some lives matter and some don’t.
This post takes the cake for pure ignorance.
First, being "in love" as with your partner is completely differ than the love you have for family.
Second, there is a limit to everything. Stop crossing "what if" boundaries to prove a weak point.
Being gay was long considered a mental illness, until it was not (although plenty of ignorant, close minded people still think of it that way). I’m sure there is a possibility that your views on what you are now fuming about, transgender people, will shift as well over time.
Besides, if it’s an illness as you claim, the NHS and medical institutions are the correct facilities to diagnose and support them. And isn’t it wonderful that there are now medical procedures in place that can help!
Finally, your “think of the children” rant is getting old. Scientific research indicates that the children of same-sex couples fare just as well or even better than the children of opposite-sex couples. There’s no indication this would be different for a transgender parent.
I just think it’s sad you are going on in this thread about “edge cases” and “what ifs”. There’s plenty of ignorant people that don’t even understand what it means to be gay. This was about Apple joining a pride event. You dragging all these unnecessary arguments into the discussion doesn’t help anyone.
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Firstly their is a useful ignore button, or you can simply not quote my posts and reply if you don’t like what I said. I’m entitled to my opinion.
Secondly, why bring gay couples into your argument as it’s totally different and adds nothing to the argument at all. I haven’t mentioned gay couples once. I also don’t think society will ever accept a female changing themselves into a legally recognised male, looking like a man, then giving birth, because you are a female by nature and scientific fact and should legally be recognised as one, it as I said in my first posts ‘IMO’ a mental illness.
But as you’ve not got anything to add it seems either then we can stop it there.
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Hardly. The issue is sex. Marriage is about sex. It isn’t about love. If it was about love you could marry your family. Since it is about sex you tacitly admit the idea of marrying your family is awful. The point isn’t a what if but thinking things out properly and not using trite phrases like ‘love wins’.
I'll be honest: I hate parades of any kind because it usually ends up disturbing my schedule.
With that being said, seeing how it triggers religious nutbags and homophobes is really entertaining and for that reason I would vote to hold these parades every month.
With that being said, seeing how it triggers religious nutbags and homophobes is really entertaining and for that reason I would vote to hold these parades every month.
Pride marches and mardi grass still carry the image of an MDMA fuelled dogging event complete with scantly clad displays of excessive public debauchery. Of which many still are, Sydney is a write off for example. Until the movement as a whole calms down in that department, these things are going to continue to rub people the wrong way, and tarnish more modest and family orientated pride events. It's the LGBT communities image to fix in this regards.
I wouldn't worry about christianity in the west, its numbers are dwindling, and it will do what it always does when faced with a paradigm shift. 1) Deny in the face of overwhelming evidence, 2) Finally accept after 350 years it might be wrong, 3) Or finally claim that it has always accepted the new paradigm all along, and act like thats been the case forever. In other words religion evolves or becomes tomorrows mythology. Long and short term this isnt an issue for the LGBT community in the west.
I wouldn't worry about christianity in the west, its numbers are dwindling, and it will do what it always does when faced with a paradigm shift. 1) Deny in the face of overwhelming evidence, 2) Finally accept after 350 years it might be wrong, 3) Or finally claim that it has always accepted the new paradigm all along, and act like thats been the case forever. In other words religion evolves or becomes tomorrows mythology. Long and short term this isnt an issue for the LGBT community in the west.
Marriage is about love AND sex and a lot of other things. Two of the catalysts behind the Marriage Equality movement were hospital visitation and inheritance. One member of a couple would fall ill and his extralegal lover wouldn’t be allowed to visit (whereas the legally recognized sex partner of the man in the next room would automatically get visitation rights). Or one half of a couple would die, and her estranged family would rush in to collect their inheritance, leaving the partner who had cared for her with nothing. Marriage equality provides a solution to both of these and many other unfair situations, and it does so without having to create a lot of new laws (that would end up being a separate but equal marriage equivalent).
I don’t agree marriage is about sex at all. It’s about love and commitment to one person and making a relationship legally official. Gender doesn’t even come into it and sex is part of a relationship whether you are married or not. I was having sex with my wife long before I married her and nothing sexual changed once married.
So you don't understand the difference between being in love vs love for your family (and close friends).?
Yes, I understood, because in fact your language just slipped: You moved from considering sex as something in the genetics to start using a word like likely. And it's not a slip, but the truth, because no few LGTB ideologists admit that they had a totally normal straight sex life until they started "experimenting". I'm not saying it's never in the genetics, but that getting hooked to something that you didn't like is perfectly possible, as many people from your band admit in their biographies. The expression "freedom of choice" is seen quite frequently in this context.
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Don't make it personal: it's not about me. I'm not saying I can't deal with this or that. What I'm saying is that pride is not something you earn by protesting or parading, but something you have or not. If you have pride, wearing a label that says "pride" is just plain stupid. If you are ashamed of yourself, wearing the "pride" label is not going to fix it.
As it has done in years past, Apple yesterday marched in the annual San Francisco Pride parade, which is one of the bigger Pride events in the country and sees nearly 100,000 spectators during the event. Apple employees appeared in the parade with a large sign that showcased a rainbow version of the Apple logo.
Apple CEO Tim Cook was in attendance, as seen in a few selfies taken during the parade with fans and fellow Apple employees. A few other Apple executives marked the event as well, including Apple's new retail chief Deirdre O'Brien.
Apple has celebrated Pride in multiple ways this year, including the launch of the new Apple Watch Pride Sport Loop earlier in June. The new watch band is the third iteration of the Pride design for the Apple Watch, following two rainbow-emblazoned Woven Nylon Pride bands that released in 2017 and 2018.
The company also routinely donates to charities that support LGBTQ individuals, and Cook himself is set to receive GLSEN's "Champion Award" for his ongoing commitment to fighting for LGBTQ rights. Cook recently stated, "I am grateful to GLSEN for this honor and for all their work to ensure the LGBTQ community is treated with dignity and respect."
Apple has long voiced support for LGBTQ causes like same sex marriage, as well as having spoken out against some controversial laws that predominantly risked negatively affecting the lives of gay, lesbian, and transgender individuals.
Before he publicly came out as gay in late 2014, Apple CEO Tim Cook fought for equality in speeches and op-eds. Under late CEO Steve Jobs, Apple also opposed many discriminatory laws, including 2008's Proposition 8 that sought to eliminate the right to same sex marriage in California.
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Article Link: Apple Marches in San Francisco Pride Parade
Is apples employees going to march in a heterosexual parade?
Humility and pride are not compatible. On the other hand, humility and love are not only compatible, but even synonyms if you live them radically.
I would argue that people who start experimenting by having sex with those of the same gender and who had previously been in a straight relationship are more than likely bisexual. I don’t think you can just persuade yourself to feel attracted to others of the same gender and sexual orientation has to come into play there.
What do you mean when you say ‘many people from your band’? Is that me personally or a figure of speech for something else?
What is the message/purpose of a heterosexual parade and do they even exist?
Israel’s first straight parade...possibly other countries later?
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/132599/israels-first-straight-pride-march/
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Yes, they do, what’s the purpose of a gay parade?, to do a 69 on main street in Disneyland like what was done before?
The purpose of ‘Gay pride or LGBT pride is the positive stance against discrimination and violence toward lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people to promote their self-affirmation, dignity, equality rights, increase their visibility as a social group, build community, and celebrate sexual diversity and gender variance’.
So I ask for a second time, explain what the purpose of a straight parade is when being straight has a completely normal public acceptance and is and has been deemed socially acceptable for centuries? What abuse and discrimination have you faced due to your sexuality that you’d need to raise public awareness for etc?
These straight parades are just mocking Pride and run by fools who don’t even understand what they are taking the piss out of. Why did you mention a sexual position in your analysis of Pride when it’s completely irrelevant?
It’s turned into a politically correct movement and not about equal rights but what they can get instead.
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the reason for the straight parade would be the same as the gay one and that perhaps heterosexuals are getting very tired of the lgbt community wanting more than they or anyone should get.
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Ask the cake store about that!
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Because the people which saw this at Disneyland did not think it’s was a family friendly thing to do, why did they do a sexual position in public anyways?, what does that have to do with a parade?
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