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I'm going to bet they will include Apple Pencil compatibility in the next iPhone Pro model this September. It makes so much more sense to do so since the Pencil is so frickin' awesome - this will really destroy the Note series from Samsung - at least be on the same level.
 
I'm not doubting that you're trying to do the best at your job that you can-- I just don't think Apple is to blame.

There's one of a few things going on here: your company is making a bad business decision and mandating the wrong device because the feedback hasn't made it to the decision makers yet or they're simply incompetent, they are expecting you to use it differently than you are (lower resolution, retaining captured data for less time than you are, etc), your personal use case is on the long tail of the company's needs, or you're simply feeling the friction that happens when a company tries to maximize the efficiency of its resources.

Like I said-- if Apple stopped making a 16GB phone it would make this problem go away for you, but Apple isn't the problem here. Personally it sounds to me like either your company is being destructively frugal in not paying the $100 in capital costs that would make their labor expenditures more productive, or they're trying to be nice in offering you a choice between Apple and Samsung and you're being destructively loyal to the Apple brand. I have to say, it sounds like the first. $100 over the depreciation time for the device, I hope, is nothing compared to what they're paying you over that time for your skills.
Hence, I am an engineer and not a bean counter...
They just can't seem to understand the math by considering how much of a time jack it is for us to deal with a piece of equipment that is insufficient to do the job. Labor cost is far greater than device cost.
 
I'm going to bet they will include Apple Pencil compatibility in the next iPhone Pro model this September. It makes so much more sense to do so since the Pencil is so frickin' awesome - this will really destroy the Note series from Samsung - at least be on the same level.

So you gonna carry dat Pencil along with dat Pro Phone everywhere you go ?
 
16 gigabytes isn't enough room for using a phone for personal use, let alone a work situation. While true the company could pony up for the 64GB version for its employees or go with Samsungs, in my mind this should not be an issue in the first place. Apple promises a phone that "just works" and has almost no compromises. Lowering the bar rather than raising it and forcing a company to look for other options tells me a new, basic Apple phone isn't good enough to use in a work environment. It doesn't meet their minimum standards. That's not good publicity.
Apple has certainly never said that a 16GB phone comes without compromises. If you can find an official statement to that effect, I'd be really interested in seeing it. Apple's product line is set up so that the only compromise with price is storage. You might think that if you take a lot of video, that means you are compromising record time, instead of compromising video quality-- except that's not the case. You can easily reduce your record quality and and extend your record time in software.

Toyota sells the Prius and the Tacoma-- they don't claim that either of those are meant to do the job of the other. If a construction company buys Prii to haul concrete, that's not Toyota's fault.

The argument around 16GB has always been that Apple's deceptive marketing was tricking someones naive grandmother into buying a phone that doesn't work just so they could steal her retirement funds and fatten their bank account. Now we're talking about selling to another profit driven company that is making profit driven decisions, and somehow Apple is still in the wrong?

Perhaps you would prefer that Apple differentiate on a different feature, or lower their prices in general, but the market is telling Apple they are making the right choices and therefore they are going to continue to do so. Your preferences are simply not going to be met in this data driven world.
 
Hence, I am an engineer and not a bean counter...
They just can't seem to understand the math by considering how much of a time jack it is for us to deal with a piece of equipment that is insufficient to do the job. Labor cost is far greater than device cost.
If you could document the productivity hit that the smaller device memory is causing, you might be able to convince the counters that they're losing beans. Accountants are data driven people, they just need the data presented in a form they can digest.

The downside might be that they decide to stop offering iPhone as an option, unless you can also show that Apple device provides productivity advantages beyond Android to justify the $100-- and that's going to be harder to demonstrate than a photos per GB argument. The upside is that if enough companies stop buying 16GB iPhones, Apple might see a reason to change.
 
This is beautiful AND something like what Apple should do with the "7".




A totaly black iPhone with a seamless OLED screen? Please, take my money! Cant wait to see a moving wallpaper on a device like that!

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I couldn't resist to make a quick mock-up about my idea of a totaly black OLED iPhone. Would love to see it blacker than black.

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If they add iris scanning they won't need it. But, I can't see them scrapping Touch ID now, and I can't see how you'd get a high resolution print through an LCD screen.
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Iris scanning doesn't work when the lights are off (if we're talking about using the front facing camera), and I would hardly consider blinding someone with the "front facing flash" a convenient approach to unlocking your phone ;)
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An iPhone 7 that's a greatest mash-up of the 4S and 5S design? Shut the F up and take my money.

I still have my old 4, and whatever they used for the glass on the front gives such better image quality than what they use now. Richer colors, deeper blacks. And overall, much clearer and crisp. And then OLED on top? Sounds great. Plus, adding glass to the back (again) will give the phone some needed weight, which is good because they keep getting lighter and more prone to slippage.

Also, for what it's worth, not sure if MR reported on this, but the rumor of Apple using OLED in the iPhone 7 Plus seems to be supported elsewhere: http://techreport.com/news/29881/report-apple-next-iphone-will-use-oled-displays-from-samsung

At 60,000 sheets per month (e.g. probably >10x that when cut down into 5.8" sizes), both sites seem to suggest that OLED screens will find their way into the *next* iPhone, meaning the iPhone 7.

I think these rumors are all talking about what would be considered the iPhone 8.
 
Curved glass is the worst.

Anyone who actually likes curved glass on a phone has very very poor taste.
 
I'm going to bet they will include Apple Pencil compatibility in the next iPhone Pro model this September. It makes so much more sense to do so since the Pencil is so frickin' awesome - this will really destroy the Note series from Samsung - at least be on the same level.
That's actually a pretty strong argument against curved class, isn't it?
 
I owned a Nexus 5 and it was a good device, especially with KitKat.
A little poor in battery life and camera quality, but considering the price it was a good device.
After that, nexus lineup became a nightmare: expensive uninspiring devices.


Nexus 6 is bsacially a large version of 2014 Moto X... A very large one... Lollipop was full of bug before 5.1 so that is that.

Nexus 5X is pretty much a redesigend Nexus 5 and price is pretty good. Nexus 6P is not so expensive, it is just 499, which is lower than iPhone. Consider for spec of Nexus 6P, the price is not too bad (although it cost 700 dollars here in Canada, pretty expensive here)

But before you jump to say Nexus 6 was expensive, take look at Nexus one, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus. Those phone were pretty much expensive. It was only Nexus 4 started at lower price point.
 
Perhaps you would prefer that Apple differentiate on a different feature, or lower their prices in general, but the market is telling Apple they are making the right choices and therefore they are going to continue to do so. Your preferences are simply not going to be met in this data driven world.

I would agree with you if I was an Apple shareholder or from what the market is telling Apple -- purely based on the fact that 16Gb phones are a reason to upsell consumers to larger capacity phones with high profit margins. As a fan of the Apple brand and based on personal anecdotal experience, including B4U, however, 16 Gb is no longer "enough" storage for a premium phone, but it's close enough to "enough" that some people will continue to buy 16Gb phones and they'll hate them. Resent them. Regret their decision. I say take a risk, and open the floodgates to 32, 64, 128, and 256 Gb phones. Kill the 16Gb phone. Replace it with 32 Gb. Make loyal Apple customers happy and don't give us reason to switch; tell B4U's company it can buy any new top-of-the line Apple phone in existence and it will meet his minimum requirements, a 64Gb phone would suit B4U even even better but a new premium Apple iphone will get the job done.
 
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Curved glass is the worst.

Anyone who actually likes curved glass on a phone has very very poor taste.
Well that would be me then. Do me a favour do a Google search, if you know what that is, for S7 Edge vs 6S Plus and go to images and look at them side by side.
Also look at S7 Edge reviews.
 
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Don't you realize how absolutely inane that statement is? You could use the same logic to justify an 8GB iPhone. After all, if you need more you can just pay $100 to double, another $100 to go further, etc. right?

A phone with a 4K camera simply should *NOT* have 16GB of storage. That's just pathetic. you can shoot barely 20 minutes before you have COMPLETELY filled up your storage. Wow. Especially when it would have literally cost pennies for Apple to have put 32GB instead. No joke, not even a dollar. NAND flash has gotten so cheap but Apple seems stuck in 2011. It's sad and pathetic.

But worst of all, a $750 phone with 16GB...???? Come on now. There are Android phones less than HALF that price with 32GB. What a joke.

I used to be an iPhone guy even since the first back in 2007. But these days the iPhone is an awful joke, a punch line.

I hope that this year, when Apple does move to 32GB (it really just had to at this point), I hope their profit margins take a HUGE dive because they truly deserve it.
Again.... if you need more memory pay more and get more memory.... some don't need it and are perfectly happy with a smaller memory phone... why should they pay more because you complain you have to? Now I don't disagree that a premium phone should come with more than 16g of storage but I'll pay for the phone I want and certainly not complain about it. You have a choice... if the iPhone isn't fitting your idea of what a phone should be then move on to another option.... free will and all you know.
 
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Especially when it would have literally cost pennies for Apple to have put 32GB instead. No joke, not even a dollar. NAND flash has gotten so cheap but Apple seems stuck in 2011. It's sad and pathetic.

Where do you get pennies? Estimates peg the difference between a 16GB and 64GB iPhone at $17 (this isn't just the standard storage you get in a USB flash drive).

https://www.macrumors.com/2015/09/30/iphone-6s-plus-component-costs/

Last year they sold 230 million iPhones. If half of the sales were 16GB the actual cost of upping the base to 64GB would be around 2 billion dollars.
 
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