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Saying 16GB storage is good enough 2016 is just, sorry to say it, stupid.

You have 11,6GB free on a fresh iphone with 16GB storage.

And you claim you have 6GB free? This means that you:

1. Either have very little text conversation och delete frequently (Message + Whatsapp is 2,8GB on mine)
2. You take very small amount of pictures or remove them often (Photo takes 3GB on mine with icloud backup and optz)
3. You dont game
4. You have no heavy apps
5. You have few apps.

Congratulation, you are not the avarage customer.

If all he/she needs is 10-20 apps and 16 GB is enough then it's what they buy. WTF is your problem.
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Yes, your wife represents a statistical sample of all iPhone users.


*changing username to no-one*

Well 16 GB is the best seller, so yes, probably she does represent.
 
Wait, so now you're telling me benchmarks are important because they favor Apple?
I've always always said specs don't matter. That one CPU is an octa-core and the other is only a dual-core doesn't matter when the actual multi-core speed isn't that much different. On the contrary with eight cores on one chip area there isn't very much space for every single one core and so the single-core speed even suffers under the spec race for more cores. A hexadeci-core chip will fail even worse than a quad-core chip and so on. In the same way more memory, more storage, more megapixel doesn't always yiel better results. The race for more and the race for better isn't the same race. Only scientists will know when more equals better and when not. Therefore all specs should be hidden from the consumer. He should only be the judge of the usage experience of the complete product. Ask yourself how good is battery life, not how big is battery capacity and you won't be fooled by meaningless spec wars. Look at all those PC companies, who did nothing but always serve you the most specs at the lowest price.

Can't fix it, can't sell it: HP gives PC business to investors
 
I'm making complete sense. Maybe sense just isn't a trait you can relate to or actually possess being a one sided lobby puppet. Run out of real arguments and now stooping to personal criticisms? What a hostile world out here for us all to engage in some meaningful discussion.
[b{Customers go in to an Apple Store to buy a 16gb [/b]to be told the device is crippled and they should get the more expensive model to address that issue. It's dishonest, it's descriptive marketing getting customers in the door to buy a product that is designed to fail within a short period of ownership. The tactics Apple is using here are on par and equal to the tactics by used car sales. Great way to improve your brand Apple.

You really make absolutely no sense. People buy what they want. Who are you to tell them otherwise?
 
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I've always always said specs don't matter. That one CPU is an octa-core and the other is only a dual-core doesn't matter when the actual multi-core speed isn't that much different. On the contrary with eight cores on one chip area there isn't very much space for every single one core and so the single-core speed even suffers under the spec race for more cores. A hexadeci-core chip will fail even worse than a quad-core chip and so on. In the same way more memory, more storage, more megapixel doesn't always yiel better results. The race for more and the race for better isn't the same race. Only scientists will know when more equals better and when not. Therefore all specs should be hidden from the consumer. He should only be the judge of the usage experience of the complete product. Ask yourself how good is battery life, not how big is battery capacity and you won't be fooled by meaningless spec wars. Look at all those PC companies, who did nothing but always serve you the most specs at the lowest price.

Can't fix it, can't sell it: HP gives PC business to investors

You are not allowed to be reasonable.
 
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Customers obviously want it? I think it's more to do with customers want more storage but not willing to pay $100 more. So they "settle /compromise" with 16gb while never being truly satisfied.

So you agree there is a market for 16gb iPhones regardless of the reason consumers are purchasing it.
 
I've been thinking more about where the breadcrumbs lead with Apple supposedly having wireless charging, removing the headphone jack, using curved glass, and putting a home button on the screen... Excuse the crappy render; it's directional only, but it illustrates that if you do all these things (and also use pin prick holes for speakers and microphones) then you get a very futuristic phone that has no surface blemishes and is tapered on every edge. Not just left and right, but also potentially top and bottom. Maybe not the next iPhone, but this seems like an interesting path. They'd obviously make it look nicer than my quick Photoshop thingy.
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No matter what Apple is doing with the future iPhones, the hype is not worth it. It will always be overshadowed by business decisions that will make sure the product is not as good as it could have been, i.e. product differentiation and planned obsolescence.
There is no planned obsolecence, computers become obsolet by Moore's Law faster than anyone could have planned. That's why it would've been wise to skip the first seven generations of iPhones and start with the iPhone 6 as your first smartphone. I haven't been that patient myself, but at least I haven't bought a new phone every two years either. The people expressing their frustration mostly suffer from their own bad decisions and judgement. As for product differentiation, the iPhone line of computers must have the smallest differentiation of all computers ever. Before there was screen size and optical image stabilization, iPhones literally differed only in color and storage space. And the color wouldn't even have an effect on price or storage size, so you could pick whatever combination you want.
 
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Just my two cents, but I think copying Samsung at this point is a bad idea, and not just because it's unoriginal. The curved screens are both unattractive and not particularly useful.

A couple of people have said that the curved edge is useful for eg scrolling, or could be used for different in-app
experiences. How does it work for left-handers though? Can you completely invert the Samsung phone
(that would be problematic with Apple's Home button)? Why not just have two curved edges (which would also be
more aesthetic)?
 
no one will complain when Apple will release iphone 7 with starting storage of 32 at the same starting price. Apple already started this, the iPhone SE is the old iphone 8 gb storage
 
Slightly confused about this news... I have a regular 6 and am eagerly awaiting the 7 for an upgrade, but I can't figure out what news it will bring to the table if the one after the 7 (whatever it will be called) will have such improvements.
 
A couple of people have said that the curved edge is useful for eg scrolling, or could be used for different in-app
experiences. How does it work for left-handers though? Can you completely invert the Samsung phone
(that would be problematic with Apple's Home button)? Why not just have two curved edges (which would also be
more aesthetic)?
Both edges are curved, you can change from left to right hand, this is Samsung and Android, not restricted Apple and IOS. I can't wait to see my Samsung phone with an Apple logo on it in around 2 or 3 years time, of course naturally I'll have a 3D screen by then because I don't follow Apple blindly.
Especially since they are calling my iPad Air old tech.
 
A totaly black iPhone with a seamless OLED screen? Please, take my money! Cant wait to see a moving wallpaper on a device like that!

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I couldn't resist to make a quick mock-up about my idea of a totaly black OLED iPhone. Would love to see it blacker than black.

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you apparently forgot the headphone jack though !!!
 
Slightly confused about this news... I have a regular 6 and am eagerly awaiting the 7 for an upgrade, but I can't figure out what news it will bring to the table if the one after the 7 (whatever it will be called) will have such improvements.

I have a 6 as well and will simply ignore all the news until September. If there's nothing spectacular going on with the design I will hold on to my 6. I have given Apple so much money for incremental minor upgrades, but this will not happen anymore.

I was willing to purchase a 12,9" iPad Pro and I certainly buy a Skylake MacBook.
The days of hyped phone upgrades are definitely over. At least for me.
 
several? it was 2 years and their edge is pointless. 16GB is an option, if you need more buy more. thats the point

That is probably also why Apple sells iMacs with 5400rpm drives?
At least they do not have 640MB RAM the entry level option, imagine who much that would suck ;-)
 
So you agree there is a market for 16gb iPhones regardless of the reason consumers are purchasing it.

I was not part of the conversation, but no. There is no market for it. It simply enables Apple to advertise a lower cost of entry. That's not a market, it's an option that's not available because of demand.

This is also why the 32GB version is missing. It would be an even less valid consumer choice, if the 32GB would exist. Therefore it's 16, 64. Because everyone knows it makes no sense.
 
I was not part of the conversation, but no. There is no market for it. It simply enables Apple to advertise a lower cost of entry. That's not a market, it's an option that's not available because of demand.

This is also why the 32GB version is missing. It would be an even less valid consumer choice, if the 32GB would exist. Therefore it's 16, 64. Because everyone knows it makes no sense.

If people are buying it there is a market for it.
The 16gb iPhone is serving ITS demographic.
That does not include me.

But it makes sense to the consumers buying 16 gb iPhone.

You do agree that there are consumers buying the 16 gb iPhone?
 
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Market share is not a measure of quality. With software you can make as many free copies as you want. To make a profit customers must see actual value in what you do and vote with their wallet. Think about it, Samsung is not paying a single cent license fee for Android and they are the masters of component manufacturing, even a major supplier to Apple itself. So what is stopping them from being hugely profitable? People are not willing to pay for what they have to offer, no matter how much storage, memory, cores or inches. Curved AMOLED displays haven't changed that.
Just so you know....that was the whole point of my jesting post. I laugh whenever I see tech writers talk about "Android's Dominance"....what is the point of having more devices out there if you're struggling to make money off them? Who in the world wants to devote resources to on a generation old device for updates/maintenance when you're constantly in a race to pump out a new one to keep profits floating...barely.

I really don't understand the Android business model other than another data collection vector for advertisers.
 
I've been thinking more about where the breadcrumbs lead with Apple supposedly having wireless charging, removing the headphone jack, using curved glass, and putting a home button on the screen... Excuse the crappy render; it's directional only, but it illustrates that if you do all these things (and also use pin prick holes for speakers and microphones) then you get a very futuristic phone that has no surface blemishes and is tapered on every edge. Not just left and right, but also potentially top and bottom. Maybe not the next iPhone, but this seems like an interesting path. They'd obviously make it look nicer than my quick Photoshop thingy.View attachment 623508


It's fun to create what you would like to use yourself! Keep it up!

Tip: Try to set the artwork layer (spiral image) opacity from "normal" to "screen". It's a dropdown menu on top of your layers tab.
 
That is probably also why Apple sells iMacs with 5400rpm drives?
At least they do not have 640MB RAM the entry level option, imagine who much that would suck ;-)

iMac is a whole other topic, but that one does suck. Apple sucks balls regarding iMac.
 
So you agree there is a market for 16gb iPhones regardless of the reason consumers are purchasing it.
There will always be a market for an entry-level iPhone, whether it be 16GB today, or 32GB or 64GB tomorrow. And with iPhone's perpetual technological enhancements and app capabilities continually converging, people will still complain about the base model not being sufficient.
 
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