Apple May Launch 5.8-Inch OLED iPhone With Curved Glass Casing and Screen in 2017

[Max(IT)]

Jeez, you guys have to make up your mind, do you hate OLED of do you like it, because I'm sure anyone could easily search the many Samsung Vs Apple threads to see an overwhelming of Apple loyalist absolutely hate Samsung's AMOLED screens. I mean does that hate have an expiration date? And would that date be the day Apple uses Samsung's tech. Oh and that thing about copying, I believe that's another thing that really ticks off a lot of you. So ummm....., Oh forget it, let's all just thank Samsung for their never ending innovation and pushing mobile tech to the edges (pun totally intended), and hope Apple get an awesome deal on those displays so the next iPhone doesn't end up overpriced for what you get, like it is now.

For instance, I don't like OLED displays for several reasons.
First because of their behavior over the time, where blue sub pixels wears off quicker than the other.
Second because of the PenTile matrix Samsung is using.
Third because OLED doesn't cope well with white backgrounds.
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A iPhone SE design in a 4.7" screen would be perfection,
though I do like the 4/4s design more than the 6/6s.

Mate it would be huge.
iPhone 4 design has bigger bezels and it's thicker.
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I could have sworn my beautiful S7 Edge is 35g lighter and quite a bit smaller than that blocky 6s Pus.

It is. And it's also more prone to crack

 

[ValO]

I thought you didn't like OLED and that Apple was smart for not using it? Remember the other thread?

I think you got me confused with someone else. I like the hw of the Samsung, except the fact it has no iOS , updates are weak and not regulated, and that I like apple' s socs , fingerprint readers better.

 

[Max(IT)]

I saw someone with a Galaxy S7 yesterday, side ways on. The edge wrap screen thing actually looked pretty damn cool and the device looks a lot thinner than the iPhone. Makes the iPhone look pretty dull in my opinion. I hate Samsung and Android so wouldn't buy one, but this is the sort of thing we should be seeing from Apple in my opinion. Actual innovation in the market.

If the 7 looks barely different to the 6,6 Plus,6s and 6s Plus I don't know if I could see the appeal of it. Even as someone who still has a 6 Plus. Apple products are getting all too samey.

Think it's getting harder and harder to defend Apple and the iPhone these days. In some cases you genuinely feel like you're being ripped off for an in-superior device. But then fan boys gonna fan boy, right? We're lead to believe everything Apple creates is stardust and I'd have agreed about 2 years ago.

Ok you saw it... But did you actually use it ? The edge screen is pointless. It's just aesthetic.
iPhone 6 and 6S are identical, but her we are judging iPhone 7 months before its release date!
6 and 6S are identical because historically Apple have done that.
But 6S definitely is better than 6 in any way.

 

[FFR]

For instance, I don't like OLED displays for several reasons.
First because of their behavior over the time, where blue sub pixels wears off quicker than the other.
Second because of the PenTile matrix Samsung is using.
Third because OLED doesn't cope well with white backgrounds.
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Mate it would be huge.
iPhone 4 design has bigger bezels and it's thicker.
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It is. And it's even more prone to crack

I completely agree. I bought two oled Tvs last year,did not like them at all. Both of them were curved as well.
Still prefer plasma over oled.

Regarding pentile matrix displays, I don't believe you have anything to worry about, if apple decides to adopt oled over quantum dot displays(highly unlikely) they will not utilize Samsung's ****** pentile matrix technology.

A corporate phone....?

And no, there's absolutely no excuse anymore. Even a huge number of $400 phones are coming with 32GB storage. It is such a tiny improvement, literally only pennies more than a 16GB NAND module, that there's simply no excuse anymore.

I want you to ask yourself: If the situation was reversed, and it was Apple selling 32GB base models and Samsung had been stuck on 16GB since 2011...do you REALLY believe you wouldn't look down on Samsung for that? Come on now, get real. The creepy Jim Jones Apple Koolaid Club can't rationalize their way out of dumb decisions on Apple's part.


....umm, not really sure what tests you're talking about. But no, in many benchmarks the S7 beats the A9.

I own an S7 and it definitely doesnt 'sputter and lag', buddy. If you own an S7 and it is 'sputtering and lagging', I would advise you to restore it. If you don't actually own a S7, then you don't really know what you're talking about.

I don't understand your logic concerning the 16 gb variant of the iPhone, apple offers 64 gb and 128 gb versions as well. If they didn't your argument would have merit, as it currently stands, it does not.

Regarding the a9, it absolutely obliterates the s7.

 

[MrWillie]

A corporate phone....?

And no, there's absolutely no excuse anymore. Even a huge number of $400 phones are coming with 32GB storage. It is such a tiny improvement, literally only pennies more than a 16GB NAND module, that there's simply no excuse anymore.

I want you to ask yourself: If the situation was reversed, and it was Apple selling 32GB base models and Samsung had been stuck on 16GB since 2011...do you REALLY believe you wouldn't look down on Samsung for that? Come on now, get real. The creepy Jim Jones Apple Koolaid Club can't rationalize their way out of dumb decisions on Apple's part.

Funny you should bring that up. A few years ago Sammy had the 16 Gigs, but not the 32s out. (I was tired of messing with SD and micro SD card) HTC had the 32. I got the HTC.

Does Apple sell an iPhone with 64 GB of storage ? Yes, so I bought it. Why do I care if they make a 16/32 or 128/256 ?

On the other end, Apple drops the 16 Gig, 32 is now the entry model at $649. Now you have corporate purchasers demanding a 16 Gig model at $549/599. They don't care about the free 16 gigs. Don't need it, but they do need a lower cost. It's the same from the consumer group that buys them now. Again, for me the cost of an iPhone is $849 (Plus 64).

When I buy a computer, I don't care that they make models with Celeron or Atom processors. I just don't buy them.

...umm, not really sure what tests you're talking about. But no, in many benchmarks the S7 beats the A9.

I own an S7 and it definitely doesnt 'sputter and lag', buddy. If you own an S7 and it is 'sputtering and lagging', I would advise you to restore it. If you don't actually own a S7, then you don't really know what you're talking about.

The Forbes review, that somebody in another S7 thread on this site linked to it, stated in the first three paragraphs that it sputtered and lagged out the gate.

YouTube has about half a dozen S7 vs iPhone real world test videos out there. It's not even close. If yours doesn't sputter and lag yet, well great, but in general I really don't give a **** about Samsung. I made a tongue and check remark on an Apple site, the Sammy fans took offense. I really and truly don't care.

 

[FFR]

Significantly smaller than the current 5.5 inch?

Shouldn't be hard to do. My 6" Nexus 6 was smaller than the 5.5 inch iPhone. It has too much chin, bezel, and forehead. The home button hinders apple's love of making things smaller. (Oh wait, it's thinner they always push...)

I think LG nailed it with the home, power button on the back. I had an LG, went to the nexus, missed the back button and was excited to be back with an LG again. (Almost went back to an iPhone when they got larger....) If Apple did something similar, it would help with that size. The iPhones are ironically huge for their screen sizes compared to competing phones.

Did you even own an iPhone?
The nexus 6 was definitely larger and a sales disaster due primarily to its size and sub par hardware.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that device was Motorolas swan song, was it not?
Since neither the company nor the brand currently exists.

 

[SMIDG3T]

Looks like Apple are holding out the for iPhone 7s. The iPhone 7 isn't looking like it's going to be the biggest upgrade but if these rumours are true, I'll let them off... a curved OLED screen, yes please!

 

[FFR]

Funny you should bring that up. A few years ago Sammy had the 16 Gigs, but not the 32s out. (I was tired of messing with SD and micro SD card) HTC had the 32. I got the HTC.

Does Apple sell an iPhone with 64 GB of storage ? Yes, so I bought it. Why do I care if they make a 16/32 or 128/256 ?

On the other end, Apple drops the 16 Gig, 32 is now the entry model at $649. Now you have corporate purchasers demanding a 16 Gig model at $549/599. They don't care about the free 16 gigs. Don't need it, but they do need a lower cost. It's the same from the consumer group that buys them now. Again, for me the cost of an iPhone is $849 (Plus 64).

When I buy a computer, I don't care that they make models with Celeron or Atom processors. I just don't buy them.


The Forbes review, that somebody in another S7 thread on this site linked to it, stated in the first three paragraphs that it sputtered and lagged out the gate.

YouTube has about half a dozen S7 vs iPhone real world test videos out there. It's not even close. If yours doesn't sputter and lag yet, well great, but in general I really don't give a **** about Samsung. I made a tongue and check remark on an Apple site, the Sammy fans took offense. I really and truly don't care.

I don't think that poster understands corporate environments or the demands they might entail compared to the consumer space.

Regarding the s7 it's not selling very well, which one could correlate with the evidence presented in the Forbes article as fact.

 

[Max(IT)]

A corporate phone....?

And no, there's absolutely no excuse anymore. Even a huge number of $400 phones are coming with 32GB storage. It is such a tiny improvement, literally only pennies more than a 16GB NAND module, that there's simply no excuse anymore.

I want you to ask yourself: If the situation was reversed, and it was Apple selling 32GB base models and Samsung had been stuck on 16GB since 2011...do you REALLY believe you wouldn't look down on Samsung for that? Come on now, get real. The creepy Jim Jones Apple Koolaid Club can't rationalize their way out of dumb decisions on Apple's part.

Definitely we won't speak about Samsung because, unlike you, we actually don't care about what Samsung does. We don't feel the need to go to an android forum to worship Apple or insult Samsung...

....umm, not really sure what tests you're talking about. But no, in many benchmarks the S7 beats the A9.

I own an S7 and it definitely doesnt 'sputter and lag', buddy. If you own an S7 and it is 'sputtering and lagging', I would advise you to restore it. If you don't actually own a S7, then you don't really know what you're talking about.

Just let your S7 run for 20 minutes and it will throttle like hell...
And even an hardcore android centric website like XDA pointed out the sputtering and lagging:

most interesting, yet not shocking, is that we still managed to find lag across the user interface, including random stutters and framedrops. Indeed, our go-to GPU profiling test showed many skipped frames when scrolling through the Play Store, significantly more than our 810 devices running stock or close-to-stock software (Nexus 6P, OnePlus 2)

 

[H2SO4]

[QUOTE="MrWillie, post: 22724511, member: 430126”]Now you have corporate purchasers demanding a 16 Gig model at $549/599. They don't care about the free 16 gigs. Don't need it, but they do need a lower cost. It's the same from the consumer group that buys them now. Again, for me the cost of an iPhone is $849 (Plus 64).[/QUOTE]
You’ve been asked numerous times what makes the 16GB ‘a corporate phone' and avoided answering it. Again, do you have a link to a keynote or support document where an Apple spokesman says something along the lines of, “…and for our corporate customers…….”? Or are you going to gloss over it again?

 

[Jess13]

I feel for Tim and the constant comparisons against 'The One', I think he is given a great deal less credit than he is worth. SJ checked out over 5 years ago, cancer had him for a couple of years before that. This means that Old Tim has been running the show for at least seven years, it is his work that made Apple grow into the The biggest tech company for a while.

The One solved a problem we all had, a mobile phone that could do the Internet very well. This was a huge issue for people and when he offered a solution the world lapped it up. All credit due, including phenomenal growth.
Technologically, we don't seem to have problems these days, we may have niggles such as 'ooh I want more Gigs without paying', but not big problems.
If you want Cook to appear as great as Jobs , perhaps, tell him the big problem the world still faces.

How about a chip implant, with wifi, so we can know everything, just at the touch of a thought? ...... Whilst our brain slowly fries.

So let's give credit where it's due. Apple products are very good and quite reliable, Tim has done in 'bit' in bringing them to market. Thanks Tim

I use iPhone and MacBook Pro. I like Tim Cook. Steve Jobs he is not. Apple could be far better.

 

[bushido]

enough time to start saving on an iPhone Pro with less storage for 100$ more.

 

[MisterK]

I'm afraid of what keeping a similar form factor this year would do to the iPhone's reputation, especially with all the (well deserved) praise Samsung's been getting for their design recently. People only have to get bored and switch away once to discover that many actually prefer Android.

That's really the biggest "feature" that I'm looking for. Of course I want a faster phone, better battery life, new unexpected features more generally, but what I most look forward to is a really novel design on the iPhone. It doesn't have to serve a purpose outside of getting people to desire it. Do something because it's possible. Not just because it's practical (though getting millions of people excited about the iPhone's design again could be argued as enormously practical). If it can be thinner, great. If the glass can be curved, fantastic. If it has no visible ports or blemishes on it's surface, that's amazing.

I can actually imagine that. If the end game to doing away with a home button and microphone port and adding wireless charging isn't just to make the phone smaller around the screen but having everything but the screen disappear. Maybe microscopic perforations give us invisible speakers. Maybe the glass is tinted in such a way that the camera and flash are invisible. Now THAT would be a space age looking device!

 

[iScared]

Meanwhile, evil Apple executs with Tim Cook...

"Muhuahua, Mr. Cook we been able to sell them on the idea that we have been redefining the world's tech since the get go, and we have yet to innovate one device!"

"I don't know Sam, I just feel like it is wrong."

"Wha-"

*smirks* "Now let's see these idiots clammer to get the new iPhone with iPhone 4s design and a more gimmicky screen than a Sams-...errrr, LG TV!"

*Evil Laughter*

"Who are they going to go to? Windows sucks and Android freezes constantly."

"What about Amazon and Blackberry?!"

*More Evil Laughter*

*buzz* "Mr. Cook, we discovered that the new iPhone 6SE explodes if you charge it more than once."

"Damnit! OH well, at least it won't really hurt our sales."

*Even More Evil Laughter*

 

[lugworm]

several? it was 2 years and their edge is pointless. 16GB is an option, if you need more buy more. thats the point

So their edge is pointless...so the apple edge will also be pointless? Or will it be fabulous because it has an apple logo on the back ?
And 16gb in a phone costing more than most televisions is an insult to the consumer.

 

[iScared]

enough time to start saving on an iPhone Pro with less storage for 100$ more.

Don't worry, they will bump up the GB to 32 GB hopefully, then charge you $200 more then $150 more after that for storage upgrades...I mean I don't know where we saw that

Spoiler

iPad Pro

.

 

[Max(IT)]

LOL, from the original article, “…...with a curved 5.8-inch AMOLED display”. Oh, and, “…...with Apple rumored to be working with several different OLED display manufacturers”. Last time I looked, Samsung made OLED displays.

If BMW was rumoured to release a rotary engined M5 would you not expect someone to mention Mazda? Apple fans are so unnecessarily defensive.
Myopia at its best!

You know what I meant and being obtuse on purpose... His post had nothing to do with the manufacturer of a possible future display for the iPhone. We don't even know if it will be Samsung... He was speaking about his "superior " galaxy S7 (one day is an S7, another is a nexus... Whatever to downplay Apple works better) and insult us "poor" iPhone owners

 

[robertosh]

2017? I really doubt it, 2018 makes sense. I would prefer a 4.9 or 5.0 iPhone rather than a 5.8 Plus.

 

[Max(IT)]

I completely agree. I bought two oled Tvs last year,did not like them at all. Both of them were curved as well.
Still prefer plasma over oled.

Regarding pentile matrix displays, I don't believe you have anything to worry about, if apple decides to adopt oled over quantum dot displays(highly unlikely) they will not utilize Samsung's ****** pentile matrix technology.




I don't understand your logic concerning the 16 gb variant of the iPhone, apple offers 64 gb and 128 gb versions as well. If they didn't your argument would have merit, as it currently stands, it does not.

Regarding the a9, it absolutely obliterates the s7.

Looking forward for that, if Apple has to go for OLED...

Still concerned about color precision over the time due to the wearing of blue sub pixels...

 

[H2SO4]

You know what I meant and being obtuse on purpose... His post had nothing to do with the manufacturer of a possible future display for the iPhone. We don't even know if it will be Samsung... He was speaking about his "superior " galaxy S7 (one day is an S7, another is a nexus... Whatever to downplay Apple works better) and insult us "poor" iPhone owners

Not at all. Looking at your post history you’d do anything to avoid admitting something negative about Apple. When talking about iPhones I’m of the opinion that the GS7 is the obvious competitor. If you can’t, (won’t), see that I don’t know what to tell you.
I’m a poor iPhone owner too, (3G, 3GS, 4, 5S), never owned a Windows, Android or any other since so don’t play that card.

 

[Scorpion67]

For instance, I don't like OLED displays for several reasons.
First because of their behavior over the time, where blue sub pixels wears off quicker than the other.
Second because of the PenTile matrix Samsung is using.
Third because OLED doesn't cope well with white backgrounds.

1. A super AMOLED display has proven to last approximately 5 years without wearing off, this is longer than most would own a phone. ("After 1,000 hours the blue luminance degraded by 12%, the red by 7% and the green by 8%." In particular, blue OLEDs historically have had a lifetime of around 14,000 hours to half original brightness (five years at 8 hours a day)".

2. The type of subpixels arrangement in a phone with 2k is irrelevant. The screen already has huge number of pixels for EXTRA sharpness, especially compared to a smartphone with a potato 760p display (not referring to the iPhone, of course). This has already been proven many times. The Galaxy S6 and S7 have sharper displays than any iPhone and the have the best displays on the market aswell.

3. AMOLED displays might not display pure whites but the same can be said about Retina not displaying pure blacks. Whites look better on a retina and blacks look better on a SAMOLED. This has already been discussed countless times.

What really matters the most is the accuracy of the colors overall and the efficiency, this is where SAMOLED shines. DisplayMate already announced the winners and the Galaxy S7 and S6 came in first.

 

[Max(IT)]

Did you even own an iPhone?
The nexus 6 was definitely larger and a sales disaster due primarily to its size and sub par hardware.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that device was Motorolas swan song, was it not?
Since neither the company nor the brand currently exists.

The hate towards the iPhone is so much that some people complete distorted the reality here...
The nexus 6 was one of the worst device ever designed, an commercially a complete failure

 

[iScared]

1. A super AMOLED display has proven to last approximately 8 years without wearing off, this is longer than most would own a phone. ("After 1,000 hours the blue luminance degraded by 12%, the red by 7% and the green by 8%." In particular, blue OLEDs historically have had a lifetime of around 14,000 hours to half original brightness (five years at 8 hours a day)".

2. The type of subpixels arrangement in a phone with 2k is irrelevant. The screen already has huge number of pixels for EXTRA sharpness, especially compared to a smartphone with a potato 760p display (not referring to the iPhone, of course). This has already been proven many times. The Galaxy S6 and S7 have sharper displays than any iPhone and the have the best displays on the market aswell.

3. AMOLED displays might not display pure whites but the same can be said about Retina not displaying pure blacks. Whites look better on a retina and blacks look better on a SAMOLED. This has already been discussed countless times.

What really matters the most is the accuracy of the colors overall and the efficiency, this is where SAMOLED shines. DisplayMate already announced the winners and the Galaxy S7 and S6 came in first.

Let's put an end to this, who gives a flying **** if Samsung is the prettiest phone with the best color display? I really don't care when I have to reset my phone for the thousandth time or I am pissed cus it is slower than its competitors.

 

[H2SO4]

1. A super AMOLED display has proven to last approximately 8 years without wearing off, this is longer than most would own a phone. ("After 1,000 hours the blue luminance degraded by 12%, the red by 7% and the green by 8%." In particular, blue OLEDs historically have had a lifetime of around 14,000 hours to half original brightness (five years at 8 hours a day)".

2. The type of subpixels arrangement in a phone with 2k is irrelevant. The screen already has huge number of pixels for EXTRA sharpness, especially compared to a smartphone with a potato 760p display (not referring to the iPhone, of course). This has already been proven many times. The Galaxy S6 and S7 have sharper displays than any iPhone and the have the best displays on the market aswell.

3. AMOLED displays might not display pure whites but the same can be said about Retina not displaying pure blacks. Whites look better on a retina and blacks look better on a SAMOLED. This has already been discussed countless times.

What really matters the most is the accuracy of the colors overall and the efficiency, this is where SAMOLED shines. DisplayMate already announced the winners and the Galaxy S7 and S6 came in first.

I’d rather have pure black given the choice. I watch a lot of movies on my phone and this is especially apparent. As for whites, I suppose they do have an importance but I already think the iOS interface is excessively white.

 

[Scorpion67]

Let's put an end to this, who gives a flying **** if Samsung is the prettiest phone with the best color display? I really don't care when I have to reset my phone for the thousandth time or I am pissed cus it is slower than its competitors.

Also have the prettiest cameras (again, this is from a valid source, DxOMark + multiple comparisons and review sites) and better functionality (SD Micro slot, water resistance, customization, etc..). Not sure about their older phones, but my 1 year old S6 is running flawlessly here. Problem with Apple fans is that they think their phones are superior, when they have never even considered trying other phones.