Apple Music Event Sept. 7

Dave00 said:
Depends on the movie. No, it probably wouldn't work for, say, Star Wars. But 16 Candles? When Harry met Sally? Or any of the other classic movies where you don't need a great visual experience to enjoy the movie? There could be a market. Just playing around, I shrunk a video down to around 200 pixels wide on my desktop, and you can still get a great idea of what's going on. I can imagine a market of people riding public transportation, or riding in the back seat of a car.

Dave

But you don't need to shrink the video down. You can get DVD Quality H.264 (720x480) at around 1Mbit a second, or 30MB for 4 minutes (Music Video), or 450MB/hour.

Couple that with a display that is twice the size of the current screen, running down the vPod (I really like lifePod btw) instead of across it at the top. It could be 320x208 for all I care, it doesn't have to be a 640x480 display, however the TV output will have to be full resolution.
 
go, v-pod, go! :D

does anybody know if theres some kind of livestream of that presentation?
or any chance to participate as "live" as possible...
 
I've read most, but not all of this thread, so I apologize if someone else brought this to the table. I'm leaning toward an iPod AV, initially used to play music videos, followed sometime in the near future with feature films and....drumroll...video podcasting! After all, podcasting as we know it today gives everyone the opportunity to have their own radio show...video podcasting gives you your own tv show. Soon, everyone can be the star of their own reality show! Wait...maybe this isn't such a good idea after all...
 
arent there already some video-podcasts?
but they can only be watched in itunes or quicktime yet, of course.
 
CIVENG said:
Why do people keep saying this is going to be a music event??

Does the invitation say "come to our special music event/product release"??

That's probably due to the fact that MacRumors says it is:

Reported by MacWorld, Apple has sent out media invitations to a "Special Music Event" to be held at 10:00 a.m. in the Moscone Center West in San Fransisco on September 7, 2005.

But now that I checked the actual articles on MacWorld and AppleInsider, they don't refer to the event as a Music Event, only that it will probably be music related.
 
matatabe said:
.....The only thing that can stop this from happening is if samsung hires goons to attack Steve Jobs from behind with steel lcd screens WWF-style when he goes to give his speech.

If it's WWF (WWE) style, at least Steve won't get hurt :D
 
iDarenotsay said:
It is a MUSIC event because it's about the iPod that changed music...now it's going to change something else.
Hmm, now that someone mentioned it, as far as I've checked only MacRumors is reffering to the event as a "Special Music Event". MacWorld and AppleInsider are reffering to it as a "Special Event" only.
There are no reports of an iPod Video probably because the details are tightly under wraps. Did anyone see the 12" or 17" Powerbooks coming prior to the night before MWSF 03?
There wasn't too many company's besides Apple involved in the development of the PB's where the info could have leaked, as it could with movie studios and distributors. A better comparison would be if anything was known before the iTMS was announced?
 
I think the best thing about this announcement is that it will probably be for something which I have no use for (at this time), like a vPod or iPod-Phone. This should free up Paris for something yummy like a new Powerbook.
 
video ipod with direct to h.264 recording as a dvr.

you can't move the shows from the ipod to a computer though - although you'll be able to directly conenct a dvd recorder.

And it will cost 799.
 
do you think anybody will pay 799 for an ipod?
thats almost in powerbook-range....and a pb has some more features ;)
 
Don't think there will be any Video iPods to be released anytime this year...No matter the Apple Expo or this coming 7th September event...
However, i think Apple might be offerring video clip downloads in iTunes Music Store. The iTunes music phones is what i think Apple will introduce in this coming 7th September event...Most probally they'll introduce some updated iPods during the Expo which is also coming up.
 
20" G5 dual 1.8ghz Powerbooks next tuesday!!!1!!1!!!111!


oh wait, sorry this is an iPod thread. :cool:

100GB VIDEO IPODS WITH BLUE TOOTH HEADPHONES NEXT TUESDAY!!!1!!1!!!111!
 
I don't think people understand. Unless Apple is announcing the ROKR AND a phone they made themselves, I just can't see the iTunes phone being the center of attention at the 7th event. It's not an Apple product, it's a Motorola product! It's not in the character of Steve Jobs to put the spotlight on a product that is not his own at a big press event specially scheduled and booked at the Moscone Center. I just don't see it. There are too many whispers and reports that point to a video event.

-Timely availability of Toshiba 80GB 1.8" drives
-Buzz of licensing video content
-iTunes at 4.9, next step is 5.0
-Creative preparing to launch it's video player
-Apple seeking engineers for iPod for audio and video capability some time ago.
-iPod needing a refresh in form factor for a Gen 5.
-Holiday season coming up (an iTunes phone is not a HOT gift...it requires a contract with Cingular...that isn't as nice as a standalone device)
-4 GB flash memory chips from Samsung (to use in video player as cache)
-Steep price drops in device LCD's (Canon just announced digicams with huge LCD screens at relatively low prices)
-a number of others that don't come to mind.


I have no doubt we'll see a phone announcement, but I certainly believe it will be a side dish to the main course.
 
PB G5!

dornoforpyros said:
20" G5 dual 1.8ghz Powerbooks next tuesday!!!1!!1!!!111!


oh wait, sorry this is an iPod thread. :cool:

100GB VIDEO IPODS WITH BLUE TOOTH HEADPHONES NEXT TUESDAY!!!1!!1!!!111!

Hehe, I also think it's about the PowerBook G5 dual-dual core, 3GHz...let them come!!!!!!
 
Just a couple responses to recent comments:

1) the PSP is nt really tearing up the market, and the UMDs DEFINATELY aren't. THat's not becuse people don't want a portable movie player, though. The UMDs are more than DVDS and can only be used with the PSP and the PSP itself if really a gaming machine with a media center tacked on, and it's too expensive to be a half asses media center for people who don't care about the games.

2) Having a dock to link a stand formfactor iPod to a TV would also let you have a remote for it, which would be terrific both for the fact it could be like a DVD player AND you could hook it into your home theatre system and control tunes via remote.

3) If DVD content can be done at ~500mb per hour (as was claimed previously in this thread), I see this being possible. An 80gb vPod could hold 150+ movies, easily, which is more than most peoples DVD collection by far. A half hour (22 minutes or so usually) would be 200mb easily, which is NOT a bad download at all.

4) If Apple does launch an iFlicks store, I hope they have monthly rental plan. Theywould have to limit the number of movies you could get a month, but Netflix is really putting the hurt onto pay-per-movie rental systems (ie, rental stores) and I think they would kill Apple if they wanted to charge regular rental fees per movie. Say $20/month for 10 rentals? I'd think that 10 is about the most that people could watch a month. Another alternative would only work if the DRM was good enough. Simply allow you to pay a fixed rate, maybe $15/month, and you can have any one movie 'checked out' at a time. You can have a queu list like Netflix and it would d/l the next movie or two in the background from a BT swarm so you could watch it when YOU were ready. Or you can grab something else as your next rental if you are willign to wait.

This would amout to unlimited rentals a month, but wouldn't keep you a member so that you would be able to get new movies or rewatch old ones, etc.
 
That was Me!

BartoK said:
Someone tossed out the term "iFlicks" a few posts back and it finally got my imagination going.

I have brushed off the Video iPod idea b/c that last thing I'm going to do is carry around a movie on a tiny screen. I'm a huge movie geek, but to me the experience is about quality presentation and being immersed in the experience. A handheld device can't do that for video, but I can get on the bus, pop in my earbuds, close my eyes and I'm "in", you know?

Now, I currently pay $15 a month for Blockbuster Online and get movies delivered to me in the mail that I cue up on a list. I would drop this in a second if (PREDICTION) Apple's Video iPod concept was not based on watching the content on the device, but RENTING (via download) a movie that I could then watch by docking my iPod with my TV. Limit it to a time period or a specific number of viewings...I don't care. But if it costs less than $4 a flick, I'm in!

Apple started down this road when they gave us the ability to show a picture slideshow on our TV's from and iPod dock. Kick it up a notch, Apple!

P.S. The last thing I want is the most miserable of devices (the cell phone) merged with the most brilliant (my iPod).

I take all credit for the iFlicks name! It was my idea! Lol! I thoguht a long time about what Apple should do for downloadable movies and this was the best name i could think of after iMovie (which is of course taken)
 
mrgreen4242 said:
Just a couple responses to recent comments:

1) the PSP is nt really tearing up the market, and the UMDs DEFINATELY aren't. THat's not becuse people don't want a portable movie player, though. The UMDs are more than DVDS and can only be used with the PSP and the PSP itself if really a gaming machine with a media center tacked on, and it's too expensive to be a half asses media center for people who don't care about the games.

2) Having a dock to link a stand formfactor iPod to a TV would also let you have a remote for it, which would be terrific both for the fact it could be like a DVD player AND you could hook it into your home theatre system and control tunes via remote.

3) If DVD content can be done at ~500mb per hour (as was claimed previously in this thread), I see this being possible. An 80gb vPod could hold 150+ movies, easily, which is more than most peoples DVD collection by far. A half hour (22 minutes or so usually) would be 200mb easily, which is NOT a bad download at all.

4) If Apple does launch an iFlicks store, I hope they have monthly rental plan. Theywould have to limit the number of movies you could get a month, but Netflix is really putting the hurt onto pay-per-movie rental systems (ie, rental stores) and I think they would kill Apple if they wanted to charge regular rental fees per movie. Say $20/month for 10 rentals? I'd think that 10 is about the most that people could watch a month. Another alternative would only work if the DRM was good enough. Simply allow you to pay a fixed rate, maybe $15/month, and you can have any one movie 'checked out' at a time. You can have a queu list like Netflix and it would d/l the next movie or two in the background from a BT swarm so you could watch it when YOU were ready. Or you can grab something else as your next rental if you are willign to wait.

This would amout to unlimited rentals a month, but wouldn't keep you a member so that you would be able to get new movies or rewatch old ones, etc.

You have a point, but there is certainly room for both.
 
hehe gotta love those guys down at think secret

The phone, the Times said, will allow users to "listen to the songs, presumably through headphones," as opposed to listening to them through salami sandwiches, as originally presumed.
 
Something just occurred to me . . .

Okay - so the ipod changed everything in music. Steve has been very, very clear that an ipod for video doesn't make sense (and I tend to agree with him). What else could be a huge change? What else could change everything? Remembering that this isn't necessarily a music event, I'm betting that it's an ipod-halo event. This could be the announcement of OSX on non-mac peecees . . .
 
itunes software for any phone, maybe?

the news services seems to indicate that what's going to be released is a ipod phone. now the motorola phone submitted to fcc seems to be anything but revolutionary...

what would be interesting mobile phone-wise would be itunes software for any (symbian) mobile phone. a nokia executive reportedly said a couple of weeks ago the he'd seen such a software already. although they quickly pulled back those words, there might still be something in that news.

http://olympics.reuters.com/news/ne...1_DIT821196_RTRIDST_0_TECH-NOKIA-APPLE-DC.XML
 
CIVENG said:
Why do people keep saying this is going to be a music event??
oskar said:
That's probably due to the fact that MacRumors says it is.

But now that I checked the actual articles on MacWorld and AppleInsider, they don't refer to the event as a Music Event, only that it will probably be music related.
The New York Times agrees with MacRumors:
But Apple did announce on Monday that it would hold a major news event on Sept. 7 in San Francisco that it indicated was music-related.
 
Rumor round-up

In case you've missed any of the rumors from yesterday and today, I've tried to collect and document them all, in order of "substantiality":

Full iTunes Phone Rumor Round-up Posted Here

It hasn't been mentioned much in the forums, but just as there's a line of iPod products, there may be a line of iTunes (or ROKR) phones. The bottom of that line might be the capable-of-holding-only-100-songs-phone like the Motorola E398.

Since the public was told over a year ago that Apple and Motorola have been working on an iTunes phone, maybe there will be than more than just an iTunes phone?
 
macbing said:
Okay - so the ipod changed everything in music. Steve has been very, very clear that an ipod for video doesn't make sense (and I tend to agree with him). What else could be a huge change? What else could change everything? Remembering that this isn't necessarily a music event, I'm betting that it's an ipod-halo event. This could be the announcement of OSX on non-mac peecees . . .
Of course iPod for Video didn't make sense! Apple weren't selling products in that marketplace! You never say that something is a good idea unless you are selling it yourself, and you always say that something doesn't make sense if you aren't selling a device that does it!

However, your latter point is interesting, but I don't think that Mac OS X will support the wide amount of PC hardware for at least 3 years. It may support a specified subset well, and a larger subset in their generic modes, but that's about it. Not that it would stop other PC manufacturers from also implementing the same specified subset.
 
sjo said:
the news services seems to indicate that what's going to be released is a ipod phone. now the motorola phone submitted to fcc seems to be anything but revolutionary...

what would be interesting mobile phone-wise would be itunes software for any (symbian) mobile phone. a nokia executive reportedly said a couple of weeks ago the he'd seen such a software already. although they quickly pulled back those words, there might still be something in that news.

http://olympics.reuters.com/news/ne...1_DIT821196_RTRIDST_0_TECH-NOKIA-APPLE-DC.XML

I'd be all over generic Symbian iTunes software like a rash on a baby's bottom. Straight onto my soon-to-arrive Motorola A1000 alongside a 256MB MicroSD card. Well, actually, thinking about it, I'd probably buy a Shuffle or iPod mini.
 
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