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Apple Music Event Sept. 7

iDarenotsay said:
I don't think people understand. Unless Apple is announcing the ROKR AND a phone they made themselves, I just can't see the iTunes phone being the center of attention at the 7th event. It's not an Apple product, it's a Motorola product! It's not in the character of Steve Jobs to put the spotlight on a product that is not his own at a big press event specially scheduled and booked at the Moscone Center. I just don't see it. There are too many whispers and reports that point to a video event.
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I don't think YOU understand.

The first iTunes enabled phone warrants its own event because it is the FIRST time that Apple has licensed Fairplay to another portable device (or any device, I believe). It is a first step that shows upset record execs that Apple IS WILLING to play nicely with others and license the DRM.

Remember, people, the Apple Expo is 2 weeks later. Which is more likely.... Apple announcing a huge and evolutionary video iPod at a press event and the phone (a non-Apple product) at the APPLE expo? ... or Apple saving the big guns for Paris and using this special event to focus on a non-Apple piece of hardware that has most symbolic significance to industry insiders?

One would have to be certifiably retarded to expect a video iPod at this event!!
 
TobyM said:
do you think anybody will pay 799 for an ipod?
thats almost in powerbook-range....and a pb has some more features ;)
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Good point. Very few people will pay that. The max price for such device must be US$500.
I like the concept of the video ipod, but I don't think at this time is a big deal.
The only reason i see to have one is to possible put some DVD's inside as VideoTS and play on external monitor if you are traveling. besides that I don't see why people would want one.
The best thing of such device would be the storage. Hopefully 100gig. so i can put my music collection, use to download photos from my digi camera while traveling and have spare room for data files. Then , I'll be compelling to buy one.
 
Thataboy said:
One would have to be certifiably retarded to expect a video iPod at this event!!
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DEE DEE DEE to me then, but I understand completely. I simply don't see a separate event at a major venue to justify talking about SOMEONE ELSE'S DEVICE!!! IT'S A PHONE....WITH AN ITUNES BUTTON ON IT!!!
 
macbing said:
Okay - so the ipod changed everything in music. Steve has been very, very clear that an ipod for video doesn't make sense (and I tend to agree with him). What else could be a huge change? What else could change everything? Remembering that this isn't necessarily a music event, I'm betting that it's an ipod-halo event. This could be the announcement of OSX on non-mac peecees . . .
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Steve has also been VERY, VERY clear about:

- No Flash-based iPods
- No Intel Macs
- No Sub-$500 Macs

From all of my Apple watching, one thing is always true. Never listen to Steve Jobs or Peter Oppenheimer. The conference call in October/November 2004 clearly denyed flash iPods and sub-$500 Macs. Three months later, everything had changed.
 
Hattig said:
Of course iPod for Video didn't make sense! Apple weren't selling products in that marketplace! You never say that something is a good idea unless you are selling it yourself, and you always say that something doesn't make sense if you aren't selling a device that does it!

However, your latter point is interesting, but I don't think that Mac OS X will support the wide amount of PC hardware for at least 3 years. It may support a specified subset well, and a larger subset in their generic modes, but that's about it. Not that it would stop other PC manufacturers from also implementing the same specified subset.
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That's far fetched. If it does happen eventually (I'm not saying it will or won't), it will be after the Intel switch is done. There aren't any Mac apps for Intel yet!
 
Thataboy said:
I don't think YOU understand.

The first iTunes enabled phone warrants its own event because it is the FIRST time that Apple has licensed Fairplay to another portable device (or any device, I believe). It is a first step that shows upset record execs that Apple IS WILLING to play nicely with others and license the DRM.

Remember, people, the Apple Expo is 2 weeks later. Which is more likely.... Apple announcing a huge and evolutionary video iPod at a press event and the phone (a non-Apple product) at the APPLE expo? ... or Apple saving the big guns for Paris and using this special event to focus on a non-Apple piece of hardware that has most symbolic significance to industry insiders?

One would have to be certifiably retarded to expect a video iPod at this event!!
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Woah there boy, I mean Thataboy... what's wrong with expecting a video iPod? They're making a music event for a reason, it's not like they had to make the event and go to Paris. They've obviously got something up their sleeves (or in their jean pockets).
-Chase
 
rendezvouscp said:
Woah there boy, I mean Thataboy... what's wrong with expecting a video iPod? They're making a music event for a reason, it's not like they had to make the event and go to Paris. They've obviously got something up their sleeves (or in their jean pockets).
-Chase
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Exactly. The phone is a side thing. Something else is coming, iPod AV or no iPod AV.

The last big fall Apple media event had:

- Random Apple updates
- iTunes 4.7 with like 15 new countries
- iPod photo
- iPod U2
- U2 Concert

What does this one have in store? Certainly not:

- Random Apple Updates
- Oh yeah, by the way, Motorola is introducing a phone soon
- Bye then!

There's SOMETHING else, iPod AV or not. iTunes 5? Minorly revapmed iPod line (color minis, 1GB shuffle $99)? New iPod Tween (between shuffle and mini)? iFlicks without the iPod AV? Who knows?

EDIT: Oh yeah, its at the Moscone Center too, so you know its big.
 
xenotaku said:
I have stock in apple and was sent this by the mailing list for apple news. It should dispell some of the rumors.....


"Apple (AAPL:Nasdaq) and Motorola (MOT:NYSE) will unveil a new cell phone that plays music from the iTunes online jukebox as early as next week, published reports said Tuesday.
The phone will be sold by Cingular, the wireless venture of SBC (SBC:NYSE) and BellSouth (BLS:NYSE) , various stories said.
Prospects for a U.S. launch in the third quarter of 2005 were reported last month.
Cell phones represent a key battleground of the digital-music war, with Apple seeking a beachhead from which it can protect the hegemony of its ultra-successful iPod franchise. Cingular is expected to make the phone available in time for Christmas.
Apple is also on the verge of announcing a version of its iPod Mini that uses flash memory instead of a disk drive, the Wall Street Journal reported"
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Sounds like nothing more than a rehash of all the rumors floating around. :rolleyes:
 
922 said:
The last big fall Apple media event had:

- Random Apple updates
- iTunes 4.7 with like 15 new countries
- iPod photo
- iPod U2
- U2 Concert
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hey, thats good news.
i didnt remember it was such a big event last year.
so we really gotta expect something next wednesday...

how long does it usually take until new ipods hit the stores?
 
I agree that I doubt there would be a big Apple event for just a Motorolla phone that can play iTunes music. I bet they'll introduce it, but I'm hoping for a "and one more thing..." scenario. It's been a while since we've had one, no?

The jeans make me curious as it matches the current iTunes/Gap "favorite song" promotion.
 
Sounds more probable, it would be nice battery life too.

According to my last post above:

"Says Nam Hyung Kim, analyst with iSuppli. Flash chips would allow the player to be smaller. And without the hard drive it uses now, the iPod Mini would be more resistant to damage from being dropped, as flash chips have no moving parts. Finally, its batteries would last a lot longer. "Hard drives consume power at a rate that's about 30 times that of flash," he says. "There's simply no comparison between them in terms of power efficiency."

If true, wouldn't current iPods play for a month!? Maybe not so likely...
 
I've lost a lot of faith on Apple lately. Too much attention to ipods and very little on computers.

I want faster Powerbooks and Powermacs. I don't really care too much of a superIpod. I do like the current ones. so please focus more on computers.

Hopefully this Event will leave room for Paris to announce cool things on the computer front.
 
TobyM said:
hey, thats good news.
i didnt remember it was such a big event last year.
so we really gotta expect something next wednesday...

how long does it usually take until new ipods hit the stores?
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The original iPod photo shipped the day of the event. But the shuffle shipped 10 days later and the mini a month later. The lesson is, it varies.
 
gugy said:
I've lost a lot of faith on Apple lately. Too much attention to ipods and very little on computers.

I want faster Powerbooks and Powermacs. I don't really care too much of a superIpod. I do like the current ones. so please focus more on computers.

Hopefully this Event will leave room for Paris to announce cool things on the computer front.
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I thought so too early this year, but the iPod has seen no innovation since the shuffle in January. Don't worry, we're in for new Powerbooks and Power Macs at Paris, and maybe a Bluetooth Mighty Mouse?
 
The biggest letdown is not that the phone is just a revamped 398, or that it took them like forever to roll it out, it's that they went w/Cingular. *barf*
 
I certainly hope this isn't the case...but what if "1,000 songs in your pocket changed everything. Here we go again" simply means that they're just going to re-do the same 1,000 song capacity just in a different way: the iTunes phone? Even though it is quite a feat to have that much flash memory in a phone, perhaps it's "up to" 1,000 songs when you provide a couple gigs of your own memory in the form of SD cards or something...It may or may not be revolutionary/earth shattering to everyone, but it just seems like a possibility...

I think I'll quit before it gets to be even more depressing. Prove me wrong, PLEEEEEEEEEASE...
 
I disagree. it's just a marketing tagline to announce something new as revolutionary as the original ipod. There nothing related to capacity.
 
macbing said:
Okay - so the ipod changed everything in music. Steve has been very, very clear that an ipod for video doesn't make sense (and I tend to agree with him). What else could be a huge change? What else could change everything? Remembering that this isn't necessarily a music event, I'm betting that it's an ipod-halo event. This could be the announcement of OSX on non-mac peecees . . .
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Why in the world would Apple steal its own thunder from next year's port of OSX to its own Intel-based machines by porting OSX to other companies' machines RIGHT NOW?

If you're not going to think before you post, at least posit some kind of logic for what you're saying.
 
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