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Apple NAB Special Event This Weekend
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Here it goes:
- We are proud to say that Leopard will be released in June...oops, Oct.
- We want to show off our new top of the line system that will ship with leoopard...oops, a slight delay.
See, the team working on Leopard got pulled to iphone, and the broadcast folks got pulled to iphone, now they are all working on Leopard, and the features you see will be implemented sometime in Oct...of next year.
- but you can buy it today and it will run on your non-leopard macs!
Yes, you can have all these cool features waiting for you for next oct...pretend your cool now, and then pay for the update when we release it.
Watch the release announcement on your iphone version 10 by the time we are ready.
lol
Peace
- We are proud to say that Leopard will be released in June...oops, Oct.
- We want to show off our new top of the line system that will ship with leoopard...oops, a slight delay.
See, the team working on Leopard got pulled to iphone, and the broadcast folks got pulled to iphone, now they are all working on Leopard, and the features you see will be implemented sometime in Oct...of next year.
- but you can buy it today and it will run on your non-leopard macs!
Yes, you can have all these cool features waiting for you for next oct...pretend your cool now, and then pay for the update when we release it.
Watch the release announcement on your iphone version 10 by the time we are ready.
lol
Peace
Logic?
I hope, but I think it won't happen, but still, I hope, that we will also see a new version of Logic. It may even be part of the new Final Cut Extreme suite, to make a complete broadcasters package. Of course individual components, i.e. Logic Pro, or whatever it will be called, are also available...
i keep dreaming....
I hope, but I think it won't happen, but still, I hope, that we will also see a new version of Logic. It may even be part of the new Final Cut Extreme suite, to make a complete broadcasters package. Of course individual components, i.e. Logic Pro, or whatever it will be called, are also available...
i keep dreaming....
what does it all MEAN?
I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of this stuff, but here's what I DO know: We placed a third-party order a few days back for a MP and ACD, and after that bounced to Apple our contact called back and strongly suggested waiting until after NAB. She didn't know anything, but someone at Apple told her to hang onto that order until after Sunday. Since we weren't ordering the current version of FCP, and this isn't a machine strictly for editing, I'm thinking this hints to either and ACD upgrade or some kind of MP surprise (in addition to anything FCP-related). The HD drive rumor might fit into this (though frankly, this isn't a priority for me so I'm--foolishly perhaps--hoping for something else).
As for people clamoring for separate "pro" and "idiot/consumer/switcher" forums, remember that whether you make a living with your Mac products or not has little to do with how mature you are or how well you stay on topic. There are plenty of articulate and appropriate non-pro posters, and likewise being a pro doesn't automatically confer intelligence and maturity. I'm a newbie-pro AND a switcher
and I'd like to hope I don't act like a complete moron when I post on Mac boards.
I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of this stuff, but here's what I DO know: We placed a third-party order a few days back for a MP and ACD, and after that bounced to Apple our contact called back and strongly suggested waiting until after NAB. She didn't know anything, but someone at Apple told her to hang onto that order until after Sunday. Since we weren't ordering the current version of FCP, and this isn't a machine strictly for editing, I'm thinking this hints to either and ACD upgrade or some kind of MP surprise (in addition to anything FCP-related). The HD drive rumor might fit into this (though frankly, this isn't a priority for me so I'm--foolishly perhaps--hoping for something else).
As for people clamoring for separate "pro" and "idiot/consumer/switcher" forums, remember that whether you make a living with your Mac products or not has little to do with how mature you are or how well you stay on topic. There are plenty of articulate and appropriate non-pro posters, and likewise being a pro doesn't automatically confer intelligence and maturity. I'm a newbie-pro AND a switcher
and I'd like to hope I don't act like a complete moron when I post on Mac boards.
As for people clamoring for separate "pro" and "idiot/consumer/switcher" forums, remember that whether you make a living with your Mac products or not has little to do with how mature you are or how well you stay on topic. There are plenty of articulate and appropriate non-pro posters, and likewise being a pro doesn't automatically confer intelligence and maturity. I'm a newbie-pro AND a switcher
well said. the pro/consumer forums is a silly, elitist idea that assumes (without basis) that "pro" users are more likely to be capable of mature discussion.
As far as the rest of your comment goes... very interesting! New macbook pros would be really great, and I'd probably pick one up in a couple of months. New ACDs I really doubt, just because why would you drop the price and then update the line 12 days later?
As for people clamoring for separate "pro" and "idiot/consumer/switcher" forums, remember that whether you make a living with your Mac products or not has little to do with how mature you are or how well you stay on topic. There are plenty of articulate and appropriate non-pro posters, and likewise being a pro doesn't automatically confer intelligence and maturity. I'm a newbie-pro AND a switcher
We don't mean people like you.
We mean people that want iPods at NAB/NAMM, and start screming and yelling when they don't get toys from special events relating to pro-events. At least that's what I could do without. I think many people think that a special event is a special event, regardless of the settings it's in, and that's why it could be useful to point out that a special event at NAB is ost likely to contain news about pro-items.
And wether or not you are a recent switcher is not relevant at all, i think they were referring to the ones that yell that they will go out and buy a Dell instead everytime their insane expectations don't get fulfilled. ...and then they are still here after saying they'll buy a Dell 10 times..
Final Cut Express???
If they update final cut pro does that mean they will also update final cut express? Cause i just bought a copy and i can cancel my order
If they update final cut pro does that mean they will also update final cut express? Cause i just bought a copy and i can cancel my order
I think a "Pro" area is a good idea. Just as it is a good idea to have a section for Apple TV and iPhone, why not one for X-serve and high end MacPro builds and apps?
There is more to it than the "price" and the "ego". These hardware and apps are sufficiently rarified in sales quantity, and diverse in end-uses that having a dedicated chat area is wise. There are other sites that do that now, but macrumors is attractive to many Mac users anyway, adding a "chapter" for X-serve and Pro is just smart content management.
Besides maybe Multimedia will move there
Rocketman
There is more to it than the "price" and the "ego". These hardware and apps are sufficiently rarified in sales quantity, and diverse in end-uses that having a dedicated chat area is wise. There are other sites that do that now, but macrumors is attractive to many Mac users anyway, adding a "chapter" for X-serve and Pro is just smart content management.
Besides maybe Multimedia will move there
Rocketman
But you've already made the choice that matters - you've chosen Mac.Then that is Mac OS X's biggest drawback - lack of hardware choice. And that is a HUGE drawback.
They offer stuff that's just about right for most people. If they offered eight pages of choices it'd be too exasperating.
MacBook Pro Upgrade - Seriously Doubt It
I seriously doubt the MBP 17" will be upgraded just for the display. I think that Apple is gonna want to upgrade a variety of things within the MBP 17" before they release the new laptop. Right now, Apple got a lot of people working on the iPhone to get it ready for release in June 2007 according one of the articles in MacRumors. Who is gonna have time for other stuff right now. It is possible that we may see a variety of upgrade in the iMac, MacMini and maybe MacBook Pro in June 2007 since the Leopard will not be released till October. I like to see something nice the upgrade with the MacMini. We'll See.
I seriously doubt the MBP 17" will be upgraded just for the display. I think that Apple is gonna want to upgrade a variety of things within the MBP 17" before they release the new laptop. Right now, Apple got a lot of people working on the iPhone to get it ready for release in June 2007 according one of the articles in MacRumors. Who is gonna have time for other stuff right now. It is possible that we may see a variety of upgrade in the iMac, MacMini and maybe MacBook Pro in June 2007 since the Leopard will not be released till October. I like to see something nice the upgrade with the MacMini. We'll See.
I think the main reason many people are doubtful is because it flies in the face of everything that has made Final Cut a success. FC is a low cost/high quality, scalable (low end SD to hi end HD), software based solution. If Apple now shifts to a tiered system based on hardware they start to look like Avid. And pretty much everyone hates Avid's tiered, hardware based business model.
Lethal
And while you may call Final Cut software-based, it's always in Apples mind to push the envelope hardware-wise, so that people will be "forced" (in a mild manner), to upgrade to new Apple-hardware. I for one prefer this approach to Avids, but while it seems different the goal is not that far off, they create software with capabilities that just about requires the newest and best of hardware that Apple conveniently supplies.
Not to get this off topic, but I half agree with you here. A certain measure of simplicity is great (ever tried to look at dell's website? I have NO idea how many lines they have, much less how many models, much less which one would actually fit my needs best [if I were in the market for a dell]), but having holes in your lineup that excludes whole segments of the computer-buying population is not. I've made the point many times that apple has very good (financial) reasons for not offering the headless mac that so many people here want, but you can't deny that a great many buyers would be better off with such a machine than with current offerings.
I think the best way to address this problem would be in the story writing. While it goes into detail about some of the rumors, perhaps it needs to go into what NAB is/isn't and the past releases a little more for the newbies. Something like...
"The National Association of Broadcasters conference is geared towards high-end video content production. In the past, updates to Final Cut Studio applications and limited updates to higher end hardware have been released...please take this into account when framing your expectations and your discussion in the forums."
Apple has always been and will always be a "hardware + software" company. They release their own hardware accompanied by mostly* their own software. If they want to capture the higher end market it makes sense to them to offer a truly intergrated system for the mid-high end market users (e.g. Red and Varicam).
And while you may call Final Cut software-based, it's always in Apples mind to push the envelope hardware-wise, so that people will be "forced" (in a mild manner), to upgrade to new Apple-hardware. I for one prefer this approach to Avids, but while it seems different the goal is not that far off, they create software with capabilities that just about requires the newest and best of hardware that Apple conveniently supplies.
I think you are misunderstanding what I mean. By software based I mean FCP relies on the computer's CPU (and most likely GPU as well in the future) to do the heavy lifting and adding new features only requires updating the software. Hardware based systems (like an Avid Adrenaline or Matrox Axo) require additional hardware (either a card or external box) to do power the system and adding new features may require purchasing new or additional hardware.
Lethal
I think your avatar and pragmatic post are quite interesting.
This forum should be a fun place to come talk, joke, speculate, and sometimes ventilate about Apple things. Let's not fence each other in.
I agree, and I just mean that in one sense both are "hardware based", it's just that Apple bases in on it's pro computers, while Avid doesn't make any computers, just boxes and cards.
To me the philosophy is similar, and it supports the argument that an Extreme-version of FCP would be a diversion from Apples current strategy of making top-end pro machines that does the work of other companies "boxes and cards". I don't know if this made sense, but i didn't misunderstand you, I think we were just talking in different jargon.
well said, however...
Certainly this would help. However I see nothing wrong in making a clear distinction between pro-level hardware and software and consumer-level hardware and software.
Essentially, anything beginning with the letter 'i' would fall in to the consumer pages and anything ending in 'Pro' would fall in to the pro pages.
Yes, there are many people who work professionally on an iMac, but that hardware is still geared toward the consumer.
Call them 'Consumer Electronics' and 'Professional Use' if you prefer, but we've got to put an end to discussion of iPods and iPhones within threads based on the professional use of Apple's higher-end equipment.
I understand that this creates ad revenue complications for the site's owners, but if people stop coming to the site, the revenue stream will dry up anyway.
This is NAB we're talking about and other than my earlier post about Fibre Channel and storage networks, I can recall only one or two other posts about high-end storage requirements.
I just think that splitting the pro and consumer information in to different areas of the site will lead to more active and interesting discussions in both areas.
But that's just me.
~iGuy
Certainly this would help. However I see nothing wrong in making a clear distinction between pro-level hardware and software and consumer-level hardware and software.
Essentially, anything beginning with the letter 'i' would fall in to the consumer pages and anything ending in 'Pro' would fall in to the pro pages.
Yes, there are many people who work professionally on an iMac, but that hardware is still geared toward the consumer.
Call them 'Consumer Electronics' and 'Professional Use' if you prefer, but we've got to put an end to discussion of iPods and iPhones within threads based on the professional use of Apple's higher-end equipment.
I understand that this creates ad revenue complications for the site's owners, but if people stop coming to the site, the revenue stream will dry up anyway.
This is NAB we're talking about and other than my earlier post about Fibre Channel and storage networks, I can recall only one or two other posts about high-end storage requirements.
I just think that splitting the pro and consumer information in to different areas of the site will lead to more active and interesting discussions in both areas.
But that's just me.
~iGuy
I disagree with the separation approach...I would think the best approach is to educate the newcomers to realistic expectations for Apple announcements at pro events (mainly NAB and NAMM). Maybe additional ways can be thought of to highlight pro rumors from commercial rumors...different graphics or color schemes to differentiate them on the main page. I'm just concerned that if we start having something like "MacRumors Pro" and "iMacRumors" that the interaction between the consumer level users and the professional users, which benefits both groups, will diminish.
we'll have to agree to disagree
You may think this arrogant of me but I can't recall anything useful that has been posted by a consumer-level user when discussing a pro-level subject.
I can see where a consumer-level user would find it helpful to follow professional-level discussions, but I don't see how they can contribute in a meaningful way.
However we can all discuss iPods and I don't have a problem clicking a different tab to do so instead of simply scrolling further down the same front page.
Yes, I'm an arrogant SOB, but I like it that way.
~iGuy
You may think this arrogant of me but I can't recall anything useful that has been posted by a consumer-level user when discussing a pro-level subject.
I can see where a consumer-level user would find it helpful to follow professional-level discussions, but I don't see how they can contribute in a meaningful way.
However we can all discuss iPods and I don't have a problem clicking a different tab to do so instead of simply scrolling further down the same front page.
Yes, I'm an arrogant SOB, but I like it that way.
~iGuy