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Apple Not Planning an iPhone 4 Recall
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Damn....
Whiners. Can't bring myself to say it. Ya..... It's no good I cant do it. Damn AT&T.
I'm beginning to believe that may be a big part of the issue, could also be the network is overloaded, I mean- suddenly millions of new iPhones turning on. You forgot to say one thing though, "damn Yanks".
Whiners. Can't bring myself to say it. Ya..... It's no good I cant do it. Damn AT&T.
More for the rest of us on the planet waiting for one.
I am a natural born klutz so I need all the protection of a case I can get.
Death grip, non issue.
I think Steve runs Apple like his hobby. He happily lives his life until he thinks of a gadget that would go great in his own life. He calls on his little pet project called Apple to spend millions and millions of dollars so he can realise his imagination of "wouldn't it be cool if I could..." the act of selling apple products to the paying public is kind of secondary, a convenient way to recoup all the losses made due to the 10 teams and 100 prototypes that didn't quite realise what was in Steves head. We're a neccessary evil to his plan to sculpt his life exactly how he wants it.
Steve: "Reception issue? **** it, it works fine for me, deal with it!"
Steve: "Reception issue? **** it, it works fine for me, deal with it!"
To reiterate, those unhappy with the iPhone 4 can simply return it for a full refund. All apple should do is extend that return grace period, so even after two months and after iOS 4.1, people that claim to be still affected can return the unit and go elsewhere for some equally impressive smart phones.
Total BS calling for a recall or making a frikking mountain out of a molehill.
Consumer reports has shown laughable hypocrisy in this matter — i.e 'it is the top smartphone according to our opinion, we also know that iPhone 4 can make and receive calls where no other iPhones have done before - but since a small fraction of the customers could drop calls sometimes because of this antenna design we are not gonna recommend it!'
I don't know what respectable source is left for honest, unbiased opinions
Total BS calling for a recall or making a frikking mountain out of a molehill.
Consumer reports has shown laughable hypocrisy in this matter — i.e 'it is the top smartphone according to our opinion, we also know that iPhone 4 can make and receive calls where no other iPhones have done before - but since a small fraction of the customers could drop calls sometimes because of this antenna design we are not gonna recommend it!'
I don't know what respectable source is left for honest, unbiased opinions
Biiger problem than reception...
Is Schumer gets involved, get ready for more ridiculous regulations that will only cost the end user more money in the long run. His regulations over the years have cost companies countless millions of dollars that get passed on to everyone. Just another example of government interfering with innovative companies' ability to bring technological advances to the world.
Is Schumer gets involved, get ready for more ridiculous regulations that will only cost the end user more money in the long run. His regulations over the years have cost companies countless millions of dollars that get passed on to everyone. Just another example of government interfering with innovative companies' ability to bring technological advances to the world.
I already bought a bumper - its crap and looks horrible so i hope its not a free bumper.
Would prefer a drop in the shop fix or send me the part and a free screwdriver (preferably the latter as would be happier doing it myself rather than some teenager brought in to cover the massive queues again at the Apple store.)
I suspect that the best fix will be an adhesive thin plastic sticker over the naughty parts but wonder how often that will need replacing.
Would prefer a drop in the shop fix or send me the part and a free screwdriver (preferably the latter as would be happier doing it myself rather than some teenager brought in to cover the massive queues again at the Apple store.)
I suspect that the best fix will be an adhesive thin plastic sticker over the naughty parts but wonder how often that will need replacing.
i didn't gothrough all the trouble buying something doesn't work as intended and has to be returned. i wasted my time and energy trying to deal with this ********, even a full refund won't be enough to cover my time/energy loss.
but apparently u don't know what is good and bad, and even when u get a bad u will convince urself it must be good, and u convince urself you are doing it wrong.
pathetic.
There's a difference though between, say, being at the furthest distances possible where a normal transmission is being made (which is how most people interpret "fringe"), and say, being in a downtown urban area, where a tower has too high of a utilization and thus signal strength is suffering. Is it "fringe" by pure definition? Sure. But I think most level-headed customers would expect major urban areas to have high coverage, whereas most would also expect coverage to suffer or be non-existent in, say, a farming region.
Oh, and there's a range of positions where you bridge the antennas and potentially cause signal degradation. It's not just one *specific* grip (although a few specific grips have shown to cause even worse signal loss).
That having been said, a lot of iPhone 4 customers had previous versions of the iPhone. Those who are suffering from this issue, if they had become accustomed to that grip style on all previous versions of the iPhone, and not suffering from this issue to nearly this extent, why all of a sudden should they be expected to have to change to a less-comfortable holding style? Especially given that, as I said, Apple themselves produced promotional images showing the phone being held in such a manner? That usually suggests "Hey, it works even this way!"
Common sense anyone?
Dude, this is not that kind of board. Keep on like that and you will get yourself banned.
I really don't get the issue. I mean, I get it, but I don't see why everyone is freaking out about it to this degree. I just changed the way I hold my phone. Actually, I found this new way to hold it to be much more comfortable. Instead of holding it the same way, not getting a signal, and then bitching about it... you could just hold it a different way, get used to that way (took me a day), and then this whole thing is a non-issue. Or get a case like the majority of iPhone users and the whole thing will be a non-issue.
I mean, seriously. Out of all of the awesome new features, you'd return it over holding it a little higher than you have been?
I mean, seriously. Out of all of the awesome new features, you'd return it over holding it a little higher than you have been?
WSJ funny
I couldn't help but laugh at the 'journalism' of the linked article. I wonder who the ''people familiar with the matter are".
"Later versions, including the iPhone 3G that was launched in 2008 and the iPhone 3GS last year, also didn't hold a signal as well as other phones and experienced more dropped calls, people familiar with the matter said."
So now the 'spin' is that the iPhone has always totally sucked as a phone? because 'some people' say so. Some people also say that ice cream has no bones... doesn't make it 'news'.
I couldn't help but laugh at the 'journalism' of the linked article. I wonder who the ''people familiar with the matter are".
"Later versions, including the iPhone 3G that was launched in 2008 and the iPhone 3GS last year, also didn't hold a signal as well as other phones and experienced more dropped calls, people familiar with the matter said."
So now the 'spin' is that the iPhone has always totally sucked as a phone? because 'some people' say so. Some people also say that ice cream has no bones... doesn't make it 'news'.
Anyone else here .....
... from Europe with the same problem as me? Mines working great. No dropped calls yet and I'm left handed too! I think this phone has the best reception of any iphone I've owned previously, in fact if I recall correctly it's better than the Pony K750i!
... from Europe with the same problem as me? Mines working great. No dropped calls yet and I'm left handed too! I think this phone has the best reception of any iphone I've owned previously, in fact if I recall correctly it's better than the Pony K750i!
Owed something...like a phone that doesn't eventually drop a signal when you put your finger over a certain part of it? That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It's not like Apple originally advertised that this was an issue either, this came to the table because of consumer complaints and 3rd party testing. Apple acted like it wasn't an issue and they are now facing bad PR because of it.
I can understand why people are mad. They bought a phone that can potentially drop calls because of the way they naturally hold it. Granted, some people don't have this issue, but this is probably to due to the fact that: 1) The location where they are testing it has a very strong signal, which can obviously change if they travel at all, and thus cannot produce the issue. 2) Have a certain skin type that doesn't cause the problem. 3) They naturally hold it in a way that doesn't produce the signal dropping. 4) Something else I'm missing here?
My understanding is this isn't because of some special iPhone 4 they have. Instead, it's because the unique circumstances they are in don't allow for the problem to be an issue.
Sure, people can return it. People should speak with their wallet. That doesn't mean they can't be pissed about it. They bought a phone with certain expectations (that I think are pretty reasonable) and they weren't met. I'd be pissed if I bought a phone that had an issue that the company denied.
I don't own an iPhone 4. I'm on the fence and what Apple says tomorrow might dictate whether or not I get one. FWIW, I was able to replicate the issue with the 3 iPhone 4s I have used so it doesn't surprise me that this might be relatively widespread.
Alot of comments have been made about free bumpers to solve the problem.
If Apple is to provide the bumper as requested by many members at no charge. Would you really feel great about owning the phone say if you saw your friend who bought the iphone say 2 months later which has no such problem since Apple have rectified it?
Bumper or no bumper, a phone that cannot make calls is defective. To put a piece of rubber is like putting on a band aid to repair it. Would you like it if you bought a new LED and found that you need a piece of rubber round the TV in order to get cable signal?
I am not a fan of Apple nor am I a hater of Apple. I like their products as their OS is really great. Their design is also very unqiue and I appreciate their work to re-defining the whole smartphone market. However, this screw up needs more than free bumpers. Apple needs to explan themselves properly and admit to their mistakes rather than shoving software updates done the consumers throats and say live with it.
This is panning out to be exactly the same response and tactics used by MS during the vista saga which they insist their is nothing wrong but kept churning out huge service pack updates. It is only when Win 7 was ready to launch that they admitted faults with Vista. COme on Apple, are you waiting for iphone 5 before you admit there is something wrong with the current model?
If Apple is to provide the bumper as requested by many members at no charge. Would you really feel great about owning the phone say if you saw your friend who bought the iphone say 2 months later which has no such problem since Apple have rectified it?
Bumper or no bumper, a phone that cannot make calls is defective. To put a piece of rubber is like putting on a band aid to repair it. Would you like it if you bought a new LED and found that you need a piece of rubber round the TV in order to get cable signal?
I am not a fan of Apple nor am I a hater of Apple. I like their products as their OS is really great. Their design is also very unqiue and I appreciate their work to re-defining the whole smartphone market. However, this screw up needs more than free bumpers. Apple needs to explan themselves properly and admit to their mistakes rather than shoving software updates done the consumers throats and say live with it.
This is panning out to be exactly the same response and tactics used by MS during the vista saga which they insist their is nothing wrong but kept churning out huge service pack updates. It is only when Win 7 was ready to launch that they admitted faults with Vista. COme on Apple, are you waiting for iphone 5 before you admit there is something wrong with the current model?
To reiterate, those unhappy with the iPhone 4 can simply return it for a full refund. All apple should do is extend that return grace period, so even after two months and after iOS 4.1, people that claim to be still affected can return the unit and go elsewhere for some equally impressive smart phones.
Total BS calling for a recall or making a frikking mountain out of a molehill.
Consumer reports has shown laughable hypocrisy in this matter i.e 'it is the top smartphone according to our opinion, we also know that iPhone 4 can make and receive calls where no other iPhones have done before - but since a small fraction of the customers could drop calls sometimes because of this antenna design we are not gonna recommend it!'
I don't know what respectable source is left for honest, unbiased opinions
You seem to be the last bastion for honest and unbiased opinions.
lol
Apology accepted. His statement reads like he is a complete idiot. I have never liked politics and with retards like Schumer it's no wonder the majority of the country doesn't trust our own government.