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Apple October 2008 Notebook Media Event Coverage
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Purists are STILL using mini-DV and mini-HDDV because the quality and resolution are MUCH higher than ACHD. For broadcast quality, DV is STILL the only way to fly. YouTube'rs don't really have an issue, but those of us with $5000++ videocams using mini-DV, and creating BROADCAST QUALITY video STILL need the firewire option.
Uh huh, that's why Sony's Z1 and V1 pro HDV camcorders are DV.
Sony clearly like to be backward thinking and non-proactive.
Not all mac users are imovie munchkins.
They are just chucking the white macbooks while they can, They will be completely gone in a few months, no more PVC plastic. Don't even consider it a current macbook because its not.
And if you really think this is going to cause apple to go "down in flames" you sir, are the idiot.
There is no VAT type tax as the federal government does not have the constitutional power to interfere with intrastate commerce and there is no tax on interstate transactions unless the part has an operation in your state. Each state levies its own sales tax and they usually in the 4-6% range. There are also local option sales taxes where the residents of a county can vote to raise the sales tax to pay for a specific program such as school construction and upkeep and public building construction.
Some people are, but you have to understand that the situation is very different from MacOSX...
With Vista, the *only* thing you get by switching to 64 bits is that you get the ability to use more than 3.5Gb as a whole and more than 2 Gb per application. And that's all, there is no performance gain at all, because there was no performance loss by staying 32 bits. If you don't have 4 Gb RAM or more, and if you don't use applications that can benefit from more than 2 Gb, you have no reason to switch to 64 bits. That's because the applications and the OS each exist in their own 2 Gb address space, so switching between the application (custom code) and the OS (API calls) has no extra cost.
As a result, there is little incentive to switch to Vista 64, very few people actually have 4 Gb of RAM. So, most people do not bother.
On MacOSX, a different architecture was chosen. The applications are not limited to 2 Gb in 32 bits, they can go all the way to 4 Gb. The tradeoff is that the address space is not shared. The OS gets the full 32 bits address space. And each application also gets it. So, whenever you have to switch between the OS and the application, and this happens quite often, you have to do a full context switch: save the stack, save the CPU state, switch, do whatever you had to do, restore the CPU state, restore the state. This is quite costly, even if the benefit is more potential RAM per application.
As a result, switching to 64 bits on MacOSX came with what seemed like a noticeable gain in performance - actually, this is seen from the wrong end, you're only recovering what you had lost due to the architecture choice.
So, for MacOSX users, there is a very real benefit from going 64 bits.
This explains the difference in the shift between the 32 and 64 bits version. On MacOSX, people made the move as fast as they could, because they could gain a lot in the process. On Windows, people only do it when they actually need it, because it's pointless otherwise. The Windows world will shift en masse when 4 Gb becomes the norm...
They are just chucking the white macbooks while they can, They will be completely gone in a few months, no more PVC plastic. Don't even consider it a current macbook because its not.
And if you really think this is going to cause apple to go "down in flames" you sir, are the idiot.
Well that was obviously a jab at the fact that they are going to see sales suffering by releasing overpriced products compared to what else is available, ALSO during economic crisis. They obviously aren't going to go out of business over some stupid mistakes like these, but I was ready to buy and they aren't getting my money now (i'm sure there are many of thousands of informed people such as myself that won't either).
Come on...
The integrated graphics from NVIDIA is supposed to be pretty good.
Just wait until we see actual and unbiased performance figures, will you?
You're really going out on a limb there. I am going to wait with my judgment until I have seen sales figures in a few months. I wouldn't be exactly "shocked" if many people will put up with these prices. It's seems like a bit of a gamble. But Apple could get away with it. Just imagine these things having sold well over the christmas buying season...
Jobs would seem like a genius then.
Am I the only one that thinks the MacBook updates are awesome? It's beautiful and has everything I wanted, backlit keyboard and far better GPU!
Im really at a loss.
I really don't know if I want to buy the Macbook Pro. I have been waiting forever for the update but it is just really lacking. Maybe buy the asus. With Mac World around the corner I can see Apple ****ing me over with a more deserving feature on the MBP.
Damnit Apple...
I really don't know if I want to buy the Macbook Pro. I have been waiting forever for the update but it is just really lacking. Maybe buy the asus. With Mac World around the corner I can see Apple ****ing me over with a more deserving feature on the MBP.
Damnit Apple...
You forgot to add "In MY opinion" to that statement.
In MY opinion, you're wrong. Glossy screens are much more difficult to work with, just for general purpose work a matte screen is far more comfortable.
This was the beauty of the old regime; you could choose your screen. You choose super-shiny-contrasty, I'll choose smooth matte, just like the majority of flat panel displays.
Its only a 2-6 hour drive to the local Apple store to have them do it for you. Unless they incorporate some kind of firmware for a USB version of TDM, the loss of firewire is a major blunder no matter how diminished its use is.
I feel your pain. I use FireWire for getting video off the DV camcorder, recording from our cable box, networking to my Mini (it's noticably faster than 100mbps ethernet), and using my FW-only DVD burner. Now my upgrade price for a new Apple notebook that meets my needs has gone from $1099 yesterday to $1599 today, not counting the new bag I'd need to carry the larger machine around, the new adapter I'd need to connect all my FW gadgets to the FW800 port, the other new adapter I'd need to connect to my HDMI TV....
Actually, I suppose I could get the $999 base MB or a refurb - they'd still be an improvement over my 1.6 CD. But it's a bit disappointing to be left out of the aluminum future. What's really weird to me is that most consumer DV camcorders can only deliver video to a computer over FireWire, so the new Macbooks will be useless for iMovie users. Why would Apple release a new notebook that cannot run one of its flagship consumer apps?
The new macbook is perfect for me personally and I consider myself an average consumer (with a little more knowledge). Do I give a **** about the GPU? no. Do I personally care that FW is dropped? I would have loved to try it out but I have no real use for it as I dont have anything that needs it. I know they dropped it in the macbooks to try to migrate the people that need them to the pro lines.
Please dont give us this crap about every mac buyer being a drooling idiot who buys solely because its pretty. Its insulting.
Please dont give us this crap about every mac buyer being a drooling idiot who buys solely because its pretty. Its insulting.
It's not just value....
You're a newbie, apparently. Have you missed the point that Apple doesn't do "value", i.e. "cheap"? They also don't do bleeding edge graphics chips. It's the quality of the machine and the user experience. If value was the overriding need, you'd be driving a 15 year-old Geo Metro, right?
This will probably get shouted down, but I think it's very difficult to make the case that MacBooks represent value for money compared to other laptops anymore. Just check what you can buy from Dell for LESS money.
Dell XPS M1530 £899.00 (Includes VAT & Shipping)
Components
Accessories
- Intel® Core 2 Duo Processor T9300 (2.50 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 6 MB L2 cache)
- Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium SP1- English
- Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
- 1Yr XPS Premium Warranty Support - Priority Call In and Onsite Support
- 2.0 mega pixel Camera & Tuxedo Black for CCFL Display
- 15.4" Widescreen WXGA+ (1440x900) TFT Display with TrueLife
- Biometric Fingerprint Reader with BLACK accent
- 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x2048]
- 400GB Serial ATA (5400RPM) Hard Drive
- NVIDIA® GeForce Go 8600M GT with 256MB dedicated graphic memory
- Fixed 8x DVD+/-RW Slim Slot Load drive, including SW
- Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr)
Also Includes
- No Carry Case
- Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth 2.0 Module (up to 3Mbps) with Enhanced Data rate - Eur
- Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-Card - Europe - Core 2 Duo Processors
- Dell Travel Remote Control
- Services & Software
- No Accidental Damage Support
- No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
- N10X5304
- Inspiron Order - UK
- English Documentation with English/Irish Power Cord - 3 PIN
- No Resource CD
- AC Adapter 90W - 3 Pin
- No Modem
- Uk/Irish Internal Keyboard (QWERTY)
- 1Yr XPS Premium Warranty Support - Priority Call In and Onsite Support
- Dell Internet Order
You're a newbie, apparently. Have you missed the point that Apple doesn't do "value", i.e. "cheap"? They also don't do bleeding edge graphics chips. It's the quality of the machine and the user experience. If value was the overriding need, you'd be driving a 15 year-old Geo Metro, right?
macworld this year will be focused on apple's new hdtv with built in apple tv. i'm surprised we saw anything to do with computers this year.