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Any hardcore professional user should be using a calibrated monitor in a dark room. Not a frigging laptop.

C.

True most photographers only really use laptops for quick work and head back to a desktop for their more color or contrast intensive tasks.
 
Anyone seen AAPL stock drop today?! Umm...also what about quad-core CPU's, I think that may have been a step in the right direction. This only makes my MBP more valuable to me (thanks Steve!) ;)
 
I'm probably going to keep my 2.2MBP as a desktop workstation with my 24" Dell monitor, and get a new MB for travel and school. I'll wait until they get the MBP right.
 
I am pretty much a noob on this.
But I checked this out on the canon site yesterday.

Lots of new consumer camcorders don't have FireWire anymore.
Most of them, actually.
At least the "hot" new ones that manufacturer seem to be pushing.
The light and "thin" variety (notice the common theme with Apple products).

So while your old consumer camcorder might only work via FireWire, you can easily get a new one, which doesn't come with FireWire at at. Also, I think many people ("the iMovie munchkins") are using their pocket-size still cams for iMovie, rather than dedicated bulky camcorders. So not many need FireWire.

Perhaps you didn't look deep enough on the Canon site.

The highest rated consumer video cam on the market is the Canon HV30 which still uses DV and Firewire... for speed.

Up from that, the Prosumer cams including the very highly rated XH-A1 also requires Firewire.

Firewire beats USB all day long... and it's an Apple invention. I can't believe that they are not supporting it on the new MacBooks... and dropping some capability on the MB Pro's.
 
Can you please show us where they promised you anything.

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/22/apple-to-drop-prices-of-notebooks/

and here more clearly:


Apple also described their formula for introducing "state of the art new products at prices their competitors can't match". They explain that these new products introduce new "technologies and features" (like the iPhone), justifying their initially higher prices. Over time, they expect to take advantage of scale and engineering to drive prices down.
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/21/apple-hints-at-a-product-transition-and-a-new-product-soon/
 
I'm probably going to keep my 2.2MBP as a desktop workstation with my 24" Dell monitor, and get a new MB for travel and school. I'll wait until they get the MBP right.

Thats my problem. I dont think they will get it right for another year and even then they will probably be behind the curve. I might just take the plunge and get a MBP later this week.
 
True most photographers only really use laptops for quick work and head back to a desktop for their more color or contrast intensive tasks.


GOOOOOOOOOD luck for that!!! At least not with Apple Cinema Display anymore! They all will be glossy!!!
 
Apple used to design the most aesthetically pleasing computers in the industry. These look anything but! Overall, I'm decidedly underwhelmed.


Yes, and, for Pete's sake, those mirror screens!? It even appears that the screen's black bezel is high gloss. I was in a store last week and the salesman looked up something on his shiny screen to answer my question, but I could not even read it because of the reflection.
 
Apple doesn't do "value", i.e. "cheap"

I would define "value" as the ratio between the "happiness" that a customer perceives from the purchase of a product and the price of that particular product. It has little to do with just being "cheap". Obviously, a lot of creative pros are finding the new MBP of less value due to the drop of matte screens. I, as a hobby musician (on the side of my Computer Science studies), find the new MacBook of less value due to the dropped FireWire port. This update seemed to focus on graphics power, which I have little interest in (but I'm sure that there are others who are)

It's the quality of the machine and the user experience.

And the displays and cases of the previous MacBook generations prove this fact, right? ;)
 
Actually I see big benefit of glossy glass screen- I will start new company selling windex type cleaner divided in smaller quantities and labeled "compatible with new macbooks"!!!:):):):):D:D:D:D
 
Any hardcore professional user should be using a calibrated monitor in a dark room. Not a frigging laptop.

C.

i googled portable dark room with calibrated monitor, but apple nor amazon or dell sell these... guess im in abit of a bingle.
 
I am pretty much a noob on this.
But I checked this out on the canon site yesterday.

(blah blah blah)

That's funny, I'm looking at Canon's site right now, and all three of their consumer DV camcorders have FireWire, with no mention of USB. Our Samsung camcorder is less than a year old, and is FW-only (well, it has USB, but only for transfer of still pictures off the memory card - not video).
 
thinking of getting the 15 inch pro.
is the 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo worth £180 / $310 ? price is after student discount!
i will simply gain speed right?
 
I've just noticed the top MBA now has a better processor than the bottom mini. They're not the bottom speced computers any more. Well they sort of are but I'll ignore that.
 
What I don't care for is going form one button to no buttons at all on the trackpad. Pretty soon operating a mac will be like learning to play an instrument. too intricate. Can you imagine trying to teach someone new to computers (such as your parents) trying to operate this thing. Some things do not need to be revised and worked on, such as a two button track pad found on ALL windows machines. Apple's arrogance or ignorance if you ask me.
 
No. Quite on the contrary, UK prices are up. (The currency, you know?)

Currency has little to do. Much more sales taxes! But hey, don't be upset! You can visit USA (and get new macbook) or get someone sneak in tax free :cool: to UK... But you get free health care all the time!!!!!!!
 
No update on the RAM capabilities. 4GB max still, Pretty pathetic, the 'big' update, and they can't even compete with competitors who already provide notebooks with 8GB of RAM.
Please show us all these laptops with 8 gb ram.
 
Disappointed, is the one word that comes to mind. There is NOTHING that blows the competition out of the water - it only sinks the MacBook line even further! WTF? $1300 for a MacBook? No Express slot? No FireWire? This is so off the mark it cannot be true! Seriously! I paid $1400 for a WhiteBook with max ram and large HD but gave-up a LOT of expandability like to Express Slot! Why not add that? A $2k MBP? You cannot be serious! I think I might divest my Apple stock. They are LOOSING TOUCH with the customer base.

Wow - words escape me and I talk for a living...

D
Right which is why their sales are actually growing compared to the market, I'm sure you know more than them. :rolleyes:
 
Sh*theads!!!! in apple!

here is summary what I wanted to tell and was too lazy to write about it:

http://gizmodo.com/5063274/the-bottom-line-on-apples-laptops-still-too-damned-expensive

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Any hardcore professional user should be using a calibrated monitor in a dark room. Not a frigging laptop.

C.

Right because no Pro is EVER on the go at a client location or outdoor photo shoot. Oh and even in a dark room with no light the iMac is still a mirror with dark/black areas.
 
it has nothin to do with knowing....
may i put it blunt?
the majority of apple customers are retards and wanna show off nothing else

and guys stop flaming if someone complains about the prices... its just a normal critism
its not that we would doubt ur religion -_-
 
Yes, and, for Pete's sake, those mirror screens!? It even appears that the screen's black bezel is high gloss. I was in a store last week and the salesman looked up something on his shiny screen to answer my question, but I could not even read it because of the reflection.

That is because it is a second glass pane over the actual display pane. The iMac has it and i find it OK, because the screen is high and does not have to be tilted upwards. On a notebook you look down and stare at your ceiling lights, etc.

Could anybody please compare the reflections of the old glossy plastic screens with the new glass ones? The new ones look worse to me... :(
 
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