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Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

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ph0rk said:
Or I spend what I would spend on food for about 7-10 days on it. You assume the full $64/day is disposable and that there isn't a potentially three month long rainy day to save for.


I am actually mildly surprised at the smug counter-whining. I suppose people don't realize that the truly spoiled entitlement-issue kids don't even look at price tags anyway.
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I'm annoyed by everyone claiming they are on a shoe string budget, never waste even a single penny, and even the tiniest increase in expenses will sink them into poverty. Everyone claims this, yet I've never met a single such person in my life. I've never met any college student that didn't spend money on beer, concert tickets, pizza, gasoline for going home every weekend, and numerous other things.

If you really are in this incredibly rare situation, then I'm sorry, but maybe you should then be happy with Tiger, which will serve you well for the remainder of your college years, and hopefully you will no longer be so destitute.
 
ph0rk said:
I never said I couldn't afford it.
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i replied because you wanted to hear from someone with an income as limited as yours. when i said "you", i wasn't speaking to you personally but to all the students.

anyway, a couple of people have now said that they have ordered it for $69. i wonder why some can get this price, and other can't.
 
stockcerts, if your install is still pretty clean, I don't think there will be any harm upgrading over a fresh install. The ones who will pre order, are those with no Apple stores in the city.
 
glennyboiwpg said:
question...

Can we open a new thread for all the people who wish to talk about the edu priceing...

I thought that this thread was for all of us who want to talk about LEOPARD not apples educational pricing policies.
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You could always start your own thread, it really isnt that hard.
 
bubbawalker said:
Cornell (says at the top of the page :)). I'm not sure why apple is doing this variable pricing thing- I guess we are just lucky!
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Hm. it is possible they've simply bonked the discounts and applied the wrong discount to the bulk of .edu's. Or perhaps it is bizzarro world and they want to reduce the economic strain for those poor private school kids ;)
 
Somewhat strange question, as it doesn't pertain to me, but those ADC members who already have a Beta copy installed, can they run the disc as an upgrade, or does it require a fresh install.

Just curious how that works....
 
So can i play hd dvd or blu ray movies, i read somewhere ages ago that the superdrive will be able to play hi def discs with leopard.

Steve :apple:
 
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Anybody notice this?
 
croasmun said:
The EDU discount is currently listed at $116 (compared to $129); I seem to remember it being much better for previous upgrades ($79?)... wow, that will really change adoption rates for students...

Edit: just checked, the EDU price for Tiger was $69 according to this review.
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I really doubt this will change anything... students who would have bought leopard at $70 will buy it at $120... Apple is just choosing to be a little less friendly now. It makes sense with the massive adoption rate on college campuses. Apple can't keep losing its margins there..
 
clevin said:
you just never really thinking FOR us the whole time, and I am not surprised since you are not in that position anyway.
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And are you in the position of having a mortgage, multiple car payments, a boatload of bills, 4 kids, etc??? You folks act like you are the only ones with money issues.

I have expenses too. But if the price was $200, either Id pony up or just choose not to get it. I wouldnt sit here complaining how it was cheaper years ago than today.

Tiger still gets the job done for me, and Im sure it will work for you come Oct 26 if you choose not to upgrade.
 
WestonHarvey1 said:
I'm annoyed by everyone claiming they are on a shoe string budget, never waste even a single penny, and even the tiniest increase in expenses will sink them into poverty. Everyone claims this, yet I've never met a single such person in my life. I've never met any college student that didn't spend money on beer, concert tickets, pizza, gasoline for going home every weekend, and numerous other things.

If you really are in this incredibly rare situation, then I'm sorry, but maybe you should then be happy with Tiger, which will serve you well for the remainder of your college years, and hopefully you will no longer be so destitute.
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You are likely referring to undergrads. Don't equate them with grad students (unless it is business school).


Apple had set a trend with their edu OS pricing, a significant bump in pricing won't be well received. Complaining about the complaining just makes more of the first type of complaining, intermixed with complaining of a third type.

No one is making you cash-advantaged types read this thread, either.
 
Nemisis said:
Are you kidding me? So, those of us with 64 bit windows vista are still screwed?
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No and yes

Windows Requirements

* 32-bit editions of Windows XP or Vista
* Windows XP Service Pack 2 or later required for Apple TV or iPhone
* 500 MHz Pentium class processor or better
* QuickTime 7.1.6 or later (included)
* 256MB RAM
* Supported CD-R or DVD-R drive to burn CDs
* Broadband Internet connection (DSL/Cable/LAN) for buying and streaming music

Additional Video Requirements

* 2GHz Pentium class processor or better
* 512MB RAM
* 32MB video RAM
 
VoodooDaddy said:
And are you in the position of having a mortgage, multiple car payments, a boatload of bills, 4 kids, etc??? You folks act like you are the only ones with money issues.

I have expenses too. But if the price was $200, either Id pony up or just choose not to get it. I wouldnt sit here complaining how it was cheaper years ago than today.

Tiger still gets the job done for me, and Im sure it will work for you come Oct 26 if you choose not to upgrade.
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you can complain when you feel like, and why we can't?

its not much of a we both have problems somewhere, rather than you have to step in and attack our problems. Did we complain to you about our problems?
 
ph0rk said:
Then allow me to put it in more general terms. I make $64 a day during the school year ($14400 a year). I will make $64 a day for the next 4 to 5 years, conceivably. If I am extremely lucky, I can make almost that during the summer months, too. I realize that is probably more than the average undergrad makes, but I get no federal grants and have to support myself. I am expected to work sixty hours a week.
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You know what, I sympathize, because I remember in my undergrad years I made $500 a month from working with a prof during the school year (somewhat more during the summer months).

But when I was a poor starving undergrad student, I didn't own a Mac. Couldn't afford it. I bought a dirt cheap Dell laptop.

It wasn't until my grad school years, when funding and scholarships and TA'ing started to look better, that I was finally able to buy a PowerBook. Even then, that purchase put me into a circle of credit card debt that took about 3 years to fully recover from. I submit that, in retrospect, I couldn't properly afford a Mac.

All you students that could actually comfortably afford the MacBook Pro you're typing your complaints on: Suck it up. You're doing better than I did.
 
Relax People!

Regarding the "I can't afford the new 10.5" debate here, relax. I'm an undergrad who will hopefully be graduating this fall. I went back to college after a 7yr hiatus to finally finish up so I bought a new MBP last march when I started school. I also use it at work from time to time. I loved the discount I got on the laptop. While I perhaps expected a discount on Leopard, I had thought it would be more in line with the Tiger pricing. It's not that I can't afford it, I certainly can. But at $69-$79 it would have felt as if it's a "no-brainer" to upgrade. At $113 it doesn't have that "no-brainer" feel, it makes me think that I should wait and invest that $113 in a newer machine sometime next year that will come with Leopard anyway.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think some of the other students here perhaps feel that way as well. I don't NEED Leopard, but at $69 I'd certainly want it a lot more! :)
 
ph0rk said:
Hm. it is possible they've simply bonked the discounts and applied the wrong discount to the bulk of .edu's. Or perhaps it is bizzarro world and they want to reduce the economic strain for those poor private school kids ;)
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In the UK, the edu price is not the same as the Higher Education price. Its 8% (similar to the discount here) for all students on all Apple products, but varies widely according to what product it is for Uni students (about 15% for a Mac, I think). You can't even see the Higher Education prices online unless you access the page from one of Apple's list of approved university networks, and you can't order by phone without photocopying your student card and sending it to Apple. Maybe that's what's going on here. Maybe the students who can still see the discount are simply looking at the page from the right networks, whereas the other students are using private connections...
 
For those with EDU discounts... Just wait a couple of months and Apple will drop the price by $200. :)

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
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