It's got nothing to do with buying into copyright lobbyist nonsense and everything to do with my own personal beliefs. I am a professional software developer who has lost revenue to illegally downloaded software - that's stealing to me...
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Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
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Intellectual property
Study the history of intellectual property in the United States. Copyright laws and patent laws exist as a compromise and were hotly debated by the founders.
The government obviously agrees with my definition and not yours, otherwise copyright infringement would carry the same penalty as theft of tangible property.
I think people should pay for software. I stopped pirating software when I became an adult and a software engineer and realized the hypocrisy of pirating other people's stuff but expecting them to pay for mine. But how does it make you feel to know that when the RIAA and other groups see sentiment like yours from consumers they cackle with glee and say "We've roped in another sucker"?
Study the history of intellectual property in the United States. Copyright laws and patent laws exist as a compromise and were hotly debated by the founders.
The government obviously agrees with my definition and not yours, otherwise copyright infringement would carry the same penalty as theft of tangible property.
I think people should pay for software. I stopped pirating software when I became an adult and a software engineer and realized the hypocrisy of pirating other people's stuff but expecting them to pay for mine. But how does it make you feel to know that when the RIAA and other groups see sentiment like yours from consumers they cackle with glee and say "We've roped in another sucker"?
Just spoke to a representative at my campus bookstore, and he said that they will sell it for $69, so that's where I'm going to pick my copy up. 
MBP 17" Hi-Res ordered. Ohh the excitement.
Question is, if you order it right now, will you get Leopard? I want to order my MBP 15 but I am not sure if it will come with it or with Tiger.
If they wouldn't have bought it otherwise, it isn't, and that is why the two are distinct legally.
Seriously, you don't want it going the other way. You could get nailed for infringement for loaning someone a book, or reading it out loud in public.
Hello?
It was $69 for Tiger and now $116 for Leopard means Apple IS getting greedier
Um Apple is a FOR PROFIT COMPANY their main business is to make money. They will sell their products at a price where they can make the most money out of. Economics 101 Supply and Demand. There is a golden price mark were you will maximize profits. If you make the price to high then people won't upgrade thus loosing profit. Too Low a lot of people will buy the product but they could have made more money from it. So there is a price point where you can maximize profit.
Thankfully this semester at law school hasn't turned me into the type of person you are. You responded to clear colloquial invocations of of a term by citing restrictive legal definitions. If you don't understand the flaw in that, I suggest you stop reading Lessig and read a book on argumentation.
Your RIAA shill,
IBjr
Yeah, not happy about the sound of that. It seems as though
we won't see new MacPros until January (MWSF 08).
So am I...
So am I, and so have I, but that doesn't change my opinion on the difference between theft of physical property and duplication of intellectual property. One is illegal because it is wrong, and one is illegal because we deem it beneficial to be.
I'm more concerned with families being slapped with quarter million dollar judgments than I am with lost revenue from people that probably weren't going to buy my software anyway.
So am I, and so have I, but that doesn't change my opinion on the difference between theft of physical property and duplication of intellectual property. One is illegal because it is wrong, and one is illegal because we deem it beneficial to be.
I'm more concerned with families being slapped with quarter million dollar judgments than I am with lost revenue from people that probably weren't going to buy my software anyway.
that would have nothing to do with the Apple's price...
It would be just about what type of person you are. Seriously.
It would be just about what type of person you are. Seriously.
Canadian price is the same as the American price!! SWEET!!!
YEAH APPLE!!! YEAH!!!
On order. iLife 08 too
The Stig
YEAH APPLE!!! YEAH!!!
On order. iLife 08 too
The Stig
10 days
Ordered mine! I like the message 'DELIVERED ON OCT 26th' - not shipped on the 26th!
Ordered mine! I like the message 'DELIVERED ON OCT 26th' - not shipped on the 26th!
Disappointed
I'm one of those disappointed with the education price.
For one, it's an obvious cut in the education discount only.
Secondly, being a senior in college, I honestly don't even have $129 or $116, much less to spend on an upgrade.
This sucks too, because I was looking forward to Leopard a LOT. I hope
realizes that they lost quite a few education customers on this one.
I'm one of those disappointed with the education price.
For one, it's an obvious cut in the education discount only.
Secondly, being a senior in college, I honestly don't even have $129 or $116, much less to spend on an upgrade.
This sucks too, because I was looking forward to Leopard a LOT. I hope
realizes that they lost quite a few education customers on this one.
EDU Discount
Hey, I'm sure this questions has been asked before but can I get teh discount at the apple store? I think I can, with my student ID? Right...
Hey, I'm sure this questions has been asked before but can I get teh discount at the apple store? I think I can, with my student ID? Right...
There are two types of people: Those who make money by exploiting the ignorance of others, and those who save money by exploiting the ignorance of those who exploit the ignorance of others.
I love that on Apples homepage for Leopard they show all MacBooks displaying Leopard. I guess that answers everyone's questions about if Macbooks will handle everything Leopard has to offer
I'm much more excited over this release than I was for Tiger. However, I will try to be patient and wait a few months before I jump in. Maybe even to get it free if new hardware comes out in January. But it's so hard to be disciplined and wait, since it looks so nice.
I'm much more excited over this release than I was for Tiger. However, I will try to be patient and wait a few months before I jump in. Maybe even to get it free if new hardware comes out in January. But it's so hard to be disciplined and wait, since it looks so nice.
greed?
Also, the R&D expenditures for Leopard must have been extreme. Why is a price increase automatically "greed"? OS X isn't a profit leader for Apple in the first place - why should they have to lose money on it just to keep some college kids happy?
Also, the R&D expenditures for Leopard must have been extreme. Why is a price increase automatically "greed"? OS X isn't a profit leader for Apple in the first place - why should they have to lose money on it just to keep some college kids happy?
Great new, even though I'm a bit bummed out about the edu discount thing.
It's not a definite dealbreaker for me, but it made me think about if its really worth it at this point.
The features i really need ASAP are:
- stable Safari 3, the beta keeps crashing on me
- the new Finder, basically because the old one sucks
- Time-machine because I like the idea of the seamless backup soloution, and my current one is non-existent
but the freakin aqua scrollbars are still in the screenshots and they look ugly as hell...you would think a company like apple wouldn't leave a thing like that considering all the other UI enhancements.
one question, Im not using iChat at this time but will i be able to use all the new features such as desktop sharing with an free AIM account, or do i have to get .mac?
It's not a definite dealbreaker for me, but it made me think about if its really worth it at this point.
The features i really need ASAP are:
- stable Safari 3, the beta keeps crashing on me
- the new Finder, basically because the old one sucks
- Time-machine because I like the idea of the seamless backup soloution, and my current one is non-existent
but the freakin aqua scrollbars are still in the screenshots and they look ugly as hell...you would think a company like apple wouldn't leave a thing like that considering all the other UI enhancements.
one question, Im not using iChat at this time but will i be able to use all the new features such as desktop sharing with an free AIM account, or do i have to get .mac?
If I buy Leopard, can I use ilife08 that I came with the macbook pre-installed with tiger? With the computer it came 2 cds containing tiger but I don't know if ilife can be installed without installing the os.