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Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

Schtumple said:
I really don't care about the student discount decreasing....

As a student we already get enough bloody discounts we're spoilt for choice :|
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Student discounts stimulate said market to thrive. The narrowing discount means 1 of 2 things:

1) :apple: consumer margin is matching the student margin, or

2) :apple: is increasing its profit margin.
 
emotional computing?

sjamp00 said:
... The lame student discount feels like another stab in the back ...
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Here's your problem right here.

You "feel" like it's a stab in the back, (and that's the sum of pretty much all the arguments winging about the increase.) There is no rational argument that this is an unreasonable increase; people just "feel bad" about it, or "don't like it."

It's about that sense of entitlement again. 🙂

Also, just a note to all those talking about the "increase" and what's a percentage of what...

It's actually a *decrease* in the discount, not an *increase* in price.

"The discount dropped from roughly 40% to roughly 10%" is the only fair way to phrase it.

Apple is not stealing anything from you ,or removing anything it promised to give you, it is only being slightly less generous than before. As usual, thousands immediately stare that gift horse right in the mouth. 😀
 
Things change - can YOU dig it?

I heard that Leopard will have a price drop to ZERO in January '08 - but there will be a lawsuit demanding a full refund for all those who actually PAID for it, and we will all get $500 damages.

No, seriously, I heard that as Students ALWAYS use pirate copies of OSX, Apple decided to put the price up to cover that.

Actually, I have it on good authority that Apple will be closed down by the Feds for , and I quote, "never pleasing all the people all the time, in direct and flagrant abuse of the words of Abraham Lincoln, who said that "all the people MUST be pleased ALL of the time".

I also heard that if you use Spaces more than once a day, you will get "spaced out" according to a doctor.

I intend to use Spaces ALL of the time, because being 'spaced out' will allow me to ignore the whining of the entitled ones on our beautiful planet, Earth, only 3 spaces from the Sun, our benefactor - the Sun, who cares not or favours not, who shines on our computer screens and makes us squint.
Aaaah, the Sun, floating in Spaces, ...er, Space.

Welcome Leopard.
I, for one, will buy you and hope that the iPhone comes to Canada soon.

All hail the Sun! All Hail Caesar! All hail Leopard! All hail Apple!

Beware the Ides of March, Caesar, for today we have killed a chicken and examined its entrails and find that Microsfty will soon have an upgrade that will bring spaces to windows. They will be called 'panes'.

Pictures of Cowboys and 'Indians' chasing each other in the dusty West, yelling and whooping, firing Winchester model 94's, not a woman in sight.....is our entire culture based on a series of misogynistic movies?

Would John Wayne try for Student discount on Leopard?

I hear his answer from across the Divide.." The HELL I will!"

PS - Can anyone please tell me how to get rid of the red 'negative' button on my posts? I have been posting for a thousand years at least and I can NOT figure it out. I guess I cheated on those IQ tests.....
Please message me, someone/anyone, with the answer.
 
zioxide said:
I'm not going to, BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD IT.

I went and bought this expensive ****ing apple computer partially because they usually are good to students, but now they're pretty much saying "**** you".

$40 is a lot of money to someone who has little income and lots of expenses ($500+ in books a semester, spending money for food).
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I'm going to reply to you, like a lot of other people have done, just because I honestly can't see what your complaining about. YOU bought a MBP, they're expensive, not even I bought a MBP. And now your whining as if Apple owes you, as if they promised you that you could buy their new OS for a low rate... which they never did.

I can certainly understand a price hike is annoying, but Apple didn't promise you cheap software (have you seen how much FCP is ?). I think you should wait for Leopard anyway, wait for a stable release down the line, perhaps after Christmas, and possibly then you'll have saved some money, and possibly then you'll have calmed down and seen that perhaps you should spend your money on something else, as your computer is perfectly capable now is it not ? Otherwise you wouldn't be using it would you.
 
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when will leopard be installed in the macs at the flagship stores so we can go play?
 
Rodimus Prime said:
exactly. If apple had given early warning about it would of been helpful. But just taking it away completely out of the blue hurts. Students where expecting it to be at most $80. The price keeping in line with what it been in the past.
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I'm sorry Rodimus but I'm not getting your point. How much time before the release date did Apple need to warn the students of the price hike? Leopard is going to be on sale to the public for the next few years at the same cost. A student can buy it at any time. There's no time limit on buying Leopard and it's not required that a student actually has to buy it. Help me out on your point.
 
mwp98223 said:
I agree, what a happened? When iLife 08 and iWork 08 came out I expected a big Education discount...it was only $8. I was excited about the new operating system, expecting to pay $69...now it is $116. What gives????
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i got iwork at uic (university of illinois at chicago) for 40$. wasn't even planning on buying it, just saw the price was so low and i couldn't pass it up.

i'm hoping that uic again slashes the price on the software. i'll make sure to update whenever they have copies in.
 
dang!

!¡ V ¡! said:
I inquired about it and the reply was NO. 🙁
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That's stupid.... so I guess it means that someone will have to go to the store physically and pre-order it there.... (i'm in college so I am not near a store; I'm two hours away from my parents, and they are only 10 minutes away from the store😱)
 
Just ordered the Family Pack (since I have two Macs, so it allows me to expand in the future) via the store and hoping FedEx sneaks it onto my porch on Thursday the 25th. 🙂
 
CashGap said:
Cornell, ever heard of it?

http://www.nbc.com/The_Office/images/episodes/season3/3020/off_3020_01.jpg

"The pricing for a custom store can be different from the normal edu stores. She wouldn't/couldn't give me a reason, so I am not happy with this new information."

Apple pays a sales team to work with that institution. Apple sets an aggressive price in return for volume committments from that institution. They then build a custom store for that institution, allowing access to the price and tracking of the volume.

Not new informatin, and nothing to get unhappy about.
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I am glad that I get flamed over going and researching a little bit on the pricing. In my opinion the edu price should be the same no matter what school you are in, unless there is something special worked out and then it will be lower than the general edu price. In the past the edu price has been $69 and now it is $116, so that is all well and good. There should have been a little bit of a fore-warning on a price increase, though I know that would be too much to ask in todays business world. I personally am not a student, I am a graphic designer and getting into photography, but my girlfriend is going to school full time and is working full time (and is still barely getting her bills paid).

No one had gone to Apple and asked the question so I figured I would and get an answer for those that didn't have the time to do such.

Christopher
 
NoOneButMe said:
Hey, guess what, not everyone has rolls of money to spend on everything. Sure, i have a MacBook Pro. Doesnt mean i can afford those $250 Oakley sunglasses i want. Or a trip to SF/LA to visit a few people. Or a $120 OS upgrade.

What computer you have is hardly indicative of your finances.
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This is exactly true. Most people have >$10,000 cars, but that does not mean they can afford $2,000 iMac.
 
CashGap said:
"Teachers are woefully underpaid."


Woefully false.

If true, we would see scores of unfilled teaching positions, since the wage would not draw an adequate pool of workers to fill the positions.

Instead, we see scores of teachers competing for few positions, since the wage is more than sufficient to draw a surplus of workers seeking to fill the positions.

The dirty little secret that we all know is that the College of Education is the academic slum of most universities, and that leads to an oversupply of "qualified" teachers, and depresses the price.

Want higher teacher pay? Raise the qualifications until there are not enough qualified teachers to fill the positions. That's how equilibrium prices shift.

Little course called "Microeconomics 101" explains it better than I.
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I'd argue that the positions are still not compensated enough - couldn't increasing teacher pay then result in more competition (and eventually, better-qualified teachers?)

Going the route you suggest would probably negatively impact public education in the short term.
 
One of the countless easter eggs in Leopard is one where you go into terminal and type :Sudo.sado.stevo.bedroom/enter

It will activate Steve Jobs iMac in his bedroom and you'll be seeing how he made Lisa. 😛

Ok, that's lame I know...

but a serious easter egg is, press command+option+I+shift+M+shift+A+shift+D+shift+O+shift+R+shift+K and remember to hit enter four times.

😛
 
vassillios said:
Does apple charge your card before shipping?
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I have had varied experiences with this question.

1) If the purchase is a large one they do not charge you until you sign the parcel slip when delivered.

2) If the purchase is low in value they usually charge you right away.

In any account its not a big deal for me. CC save you from paying for the item by 30 days. 🙂
 
For those who have pre-ordered in the past

I've searched throughout this thread and i guess the discount is the main topic, so...

If you preorder when are you most likely to receive it in the mail? It says delivery on the 26th, but wont that defeat the purpose of the 6pm scene?

If you preordered Tiger, when did you receive it?
 
Hurray for Apple Canada.

Canadian Price for Leopard matches that of the American Price at $129.

Finally, a corporation that has responded to the rising Canadian dollar (the exchange rate now about 1:1).

I hope that Canadian prices for other Apple products will start to match that of American, maybe before the holiday season?
 
villanova329 said:
I've searched throughout this thread and i guess the discount is the main topic, so...

If you preorder when are you most likely to receive it in the mail? It says delivery on the 26th, but wont that defeat the purpose of the 6pm scene?

If you preordered Tiger, when did you receive it?
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Depends on your area. Some people have gotten it the day before, others the day of the release.
 
is the upgrade offer for £5-ish in conjunction with the current UK free iPod offer???

Reading the T&C's it says not in conjunction with any other offer - surely they must be including these purchases???

i.e. if i buy a macbook and free iPod today, will I get the upgrade for £5.95??? 😕😕🙂
 
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