Apple Officially Announces Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

[machou]

A lot "....." and be productive.

Ok, so I kind fo see why it bothers you for your work..but are you willing to abandon OS X and change platform for your personal/home usage non work related ?

Hell, in my work we have to use windows..but outside work when I use a computer I would never trade OS X for anything else...at least not for the current choices (be it Linux or Windows).

 

[DwayneWayne]

Also made my purchase today - I thought it was a little bit too expensive, but I guess it will make it worth my cents

 

[broncoball]

if me and five friends buy the family pack will we be able to install it on all five of our computers. Also will it work if some are intel and some ppc.

 

[Eidorian]

if me and five friends buy the family pack will we be able to install it on all five of our computers. Also will it work if some are intel and some ppc.

1. No
2. Yes, it'll work on PowerPC and Intel

 

[goosnarrggh]

Whats a real load of crap, is buying Windows Vista; especially when you can get this OS X update for fraction of the cost.

In all seriousness...
Vista will eventually overtake Windows XP in terms of installed userbase. But it will never happen as a result of upgraders, rather it will just be due to attrition once you can no longer buy PCs with XP pre-loaded.

I suspect that retail sales of Windows Vista as a standalone product will never add up to a hill of beans. Why? Because, with appropriate accessories (which should have been included with the OS for free, can you say Anti-Virus? ...oh well...) XP works just fine for most users. There's just no overriding incentive to upgrade. And when the time comes to finally replace your PC, the replacement will likely come with an OEM copy of Vista preloaded.

Microsoft and most 3rd party vendors will likely continue releasing new application software that works with XP for years to come still. (MS only stopped providing official support for Windows 2000 with its current-version Office software this year. Most 3rd party software you can buy off the shelf still supports Windows 98.)

An interesting question that comes to my mind is this: This forum is frequented by a disproportionate number of technical-minded people who actually understand what an OS is. As such, there's little surprise that the majority of users are at least interested in the possibility of upgrading to Leopard. But in the population at large, what percentage of Macintosh users are actually going to make the upgrade? And out of all the people who don't, how many are actually going to experience a tangible harm as a result of not upgrading?

if me and five friends buy the family pack will we be able to install it on all five of our computers. Also will it work if some are intel and some ppc.

Is there any technical measure that Apple could take to prevent you from installing it on all five computers? Probably not.
Is it permissible or legal? If all of your friends who get in on this are roommates, then I'd guess the answer would be yes. (Assuming that you actually meant you and 4 friends, not you and 5 friends. Remember, 5 + 1 = 6. ) Otherwise, no.

 

[ppfd]

Why don't you all that are crying over the lack of a substantial discount from Apple just buy Leopard from Mac Mall? Someone posted it earlier here, price was $106.00 U.S. For the record I am a full time Nursing Student and work a full time job. Quit the damn crying! Its not like your Mac wont run with out Leopard.

How many of you ran out and bought an iphone when they first came out?

Me I'll wait a few months for the bugs to get worked out. I dont need to be the first on the block with the new os. Heck I'm the only one on the block with a mac!

 

[MacinDoc]

if me and five friends buy the family pack will we be able to install it on all five of our computers. Also will it work if some are intel and some ppc.

It will work, but it is a violation of the EULA for the Family Pack, which is explicitly for computers used by members of the same immediate family residing in the same household.

Regarding the questions about whether 10.5 will be delivered on the 26th for pre-orders made today, the answer, from past experience, is yes (at least for most communities). Apple will be sending it out in time to arrive on that date.

 

[vohdoun]

Hopefully it will be in the backgrounds folder with Leopard

One thing though. Even if it is there or its obtainable somewhere. My biggest gripe with that was is it is not smooth at the top and bottom. Its grainy like a lot of the image has lost its goodness.

If its still like this for release. Bleh! Not that it would matter anyway as I'd probably end up using something else. Even still though, I love smooth walls.

 

[HLdan]

Yeah, looks like the torrent sites are going to busy for awhile. Seriously, while it's not as much as Vista, 116 is a lot of money for a starving student.

Then a "starving student" shouldn't even be able to pay $69. Come on man, get real!

 

[synth3tik]

Alright!

 

[goosnarrggh]

if me and five friends buy the family pack will we be able to install it on all five of our computers. Also will it work if some are intel and some ppc.

It will work, but it is a violation of the EULA for the Family Pack, which is explicitly for computers used by members of the same immediate family residing in the same household.

Unless Apple changes its family pack license from what it traditionally has been, that's not strictly true.
It allows personal use for any 5 individuals who happen to share a single dwelling place (plus students who would normally dwell there but are temporarily living living on-campus during the school year).

Immediate family relations are not a listed requirement.

 

[nvbrit]

Then a "starving student" shouldn't even be able to pay $69. Come on man, get real!

Does anyone not think that someone with a full time job and family with a mortgage, and utilities and other bills and groceries to buy and car insurance and gas for a car etc etc etc could also find $129 expensive but there is no "Has a job, a family and lots of bills to pay discount". We could have just as much of a cash flow problem as a student, or even worse and yet we still have to pay full price and don't whine about it.

 

[tekboi]

This is good and all. Will Loepard be able to run all of the 10.4 applications. If not, there is no way i'm getting this.

 

[reckless_0001]

This is good and all. Will Loepard be able to run all of the 10.4 applications. If not, there is no way i'm getting this.

Uh, yah...

It's up to software publishers if they will make NEW software L"oe"pard only, but all current 10.4 software should work.

Are you new, by chance?

 

[goosnarrggh]

This is good and all. Will Loepard be able to run all of the 10.4 applications. If not, there is no way i'm getting this.

Back when OSX was still in its infancy, it wasn't unheard of for some applications to rely on unstable APIs which changed from one version to the next and broke forward compatibility. The software publishers would have to release a new version that would work on the updated OS, or else the application died on the vine. I'd expect that by now virtually all of those sorts of issues will have been resolved.

So will all your applications that worked under Tiger be able to run unmodified with Leopard? I'll go out on a limb and give a very enthusiastic "probably"!

 

[sblasl]

Leopard & iPhone Enhancements

With 300 new features in Leopard, how come nothing is mentioned regarding support/enhancements of the iPhone? There are a lot of people on these forums that are hanging their hat that Leopard is going to provide them with numerous enhancements to the iPhone.

Have I missed something?

 

[Schtumple]

So will all your applications that worked under Tiger be able to run unmodified with Leopard? I'll go out on a limb and give a very enthusiastic "probably"!

I 2nd that probably

 

[nvbrit]

.

 

[Peace]

With 300 new features in Leopard, how come nothing is mentioned regarding support/enhancements of the iPhone? There are a lot of people on these forums that are hanging their hat that Leopard is going to provide them with numerous enhancements to the iPhone.

Have I missed something?

Yes.

You've missed about X thousands of people hacking away at their iPhone causing Apple engineers to work more hours.

 

[Half Glass]

I think it is funny that so many are complaining about the cost of the OS.

I am constantly arguing with my friends about why I had to pay so much more for Macs than equivalent PCs.

I'm in the market for a computer that will handle games for the kids and the stuff I fiddle with...photos, video, etc..

$1400 for the decent (not the entry) iMac? That's where my gripe is. I love it and I will buy one eventually, but for a "basic desktop" (using laptop parts), that's expensive.

$129 for the OS...how about $500 more in hardware?

Nevertheless, I can't wait for my copy of Leopard to arrive.


--HG
MBP 2.16 CD2
eMac

 

[sblasl]

Actually the possibility exist that some may not work if they depend on specific drivers or extensions. Many audio applications may exhibit issues as has been the case in the past. If the developer has been on top of things then the likelihood will be diminished, but the possibility does exist.

BTW, nice spelling.

This is good and all. Will Loepard be able to run all of the 10.4 applications. If not, there is no way i'm getting this.

Uh, yah...

It's up to software publishers if they will make NEW software L"oe"pard only, but all current 10.4 software should work.

Are you new, by chance?

 

[nvbrit]

What the hell?????? An hour or two? This isn't VISTA!!

 

[reckless_0001]

$129.00 dollars is incredibly cheap for a FULL (ultimate) OS. Even if you are a student. Foo to you guys complaining about the price. Go buy Vista... oops sorry it costs more, so you can't afford that either.

 

[nvbrit]

$129.00 dollars is incredibly cheap for a FULL (ultimate) OS. Even if you are a student. Foo to you guys complaining about the price. Go buy Vista... oops sorry it costs more, so you can't afford that either.

or you can pick up Windows 3.11 on ebay for a couple of bucks

 

[MacinDoc]

Unless Apple changes its family pack license from what it traditionally has been, that's not strictly true.
It allows personal use for any 5 individuals who happen to share a single dwelling place (plus students who would normally dwell there but are temporarily living living on-campus during the school year).

Immediate family relations are not a listed requirement.

Oops, my mistake, "persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home, or condominium, including student members who are primary residents of that household but reside at a separate on-campus location".

This does not include friends who live in the same building, just those living in the same apartment or condominium.

Edit: I suppose this would apply to students living in a frat house, if it was their primary residence. It also applies to students living away from home whose families have purchased the Family Pack.