Dude if thats the case then the iPhone 3Gs was a gaggle F^%$k of mismatched numbers that didn't correspond. Apple must have just become a tidy little company recently I guess.
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Apple Outs "iPhone 4S" Name in Latest iTunes Beta
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Dude if thats the case then the iPhone 3Gs was a gaggle F^%$k of mismatched numbers that didn't correspond. Apple must have just become a tidy little company recently I guess.
It's amazing that even with the evidence right under your noses some of you continue to believe that there will be a redesigned iPhone.
I, for one, am excited by the 4S. A5, 8MP camera, 1GB RAM (in a PHONE!), and the antenna issue negated, according to AnandTech, http://bit.ly/h1kWrf
So, what's not to love? The iPhone 4S sounds pretty damn incredible.
What evidence? Evidence of the exitence of a 4S ≠ the non-existence of an iPhone 5.
I personally hope for an iPhone 5 and still think we may have one....but I'm not really sure. Either way, all those that say Apple will "decline" if they only release a 4S are absolutely clueless. They'll probably be the first in line for a 4S.
In what sense? The rumors are that the internals are going to be updated, so how would the phone be out-dated by an internal update? Do you mean the look will be out-dated? Because it's still the best looking phone out there.
It's amazing that even with the evidence right under your noses some of you continue to believe that there will be a redesigned iPhone.
I, for one, am excited by the 4S. A5, 8MP camera, 1GB RAM (in a PHONE!), and the antenna issue negated, according to AnandTech, http://bit.ly/h1kWrf
So, what's not to love? The iPhone 4S sounds pretty damn incredible.
its amazing that people believe that evidence of a "not redesigned" phone exists... is evidence that there won't be a "redesigned phone"
I don't understand your point. The 3GS was not the fourth iPhone. The iPhone 4 was the fourth iPhone, like the previous poster stated.
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To me this is greater proof of an iPhone 5. If the 4S is a real product, it's probably going to be the cheaper iPhone we've been hearing about, but also tweaked, and duly named 4S to prevent people from thinking its still just the 4.
I just don't see Apple not releasing something called iPhone 5.
To me this is greater proof of an iPhone 5. If the 4S is a real product, it's probably going to be the cheaper iPhone we've been hearing about, but also tweaked, and duly named 4S to prevent people from thinking its still just the 4.
I just don't see Apple not releasing something called iPhone 5.
It's about as lame as having no clue what a beta is and why beta's sometimes need to get pulled. But than again, the beta didn't get pulled so there's nothing lame.
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Maybe it will be Tim Cooks first, "One more thing".
Maybe it will be Tim Cooks first, "One more thing".
Another conspiracy theorist
'Spoose you think Michael Jackson is still alive also
Whatever you are smoking, snorting or injecting I want some of it
Why do so many people think there will only be an iPhone 4S and not a 5 as well? There were rumors for ages that there would be two new versions of the iPhone. One with a spec change, the 4S, and the redesigned version, the 5. I don't see why this would have changed.
Speaking of tim cook I still want to know does he have a high pitched voice or not?
I really don't understand how calling this model the iPhone 4S instead of the iPhone 5 diminishes the significance of this upgrade.
The iPhone 4 outsells all other smartphones. The 3GS is in second place, at least for AT&T. Will slapping an "S" on the end of the name somehow cause people to quit buying it?
The iPhone 4 outsells all other smartphones. The 3GS is in second place, at least for AT&T. Will slapping an "S" on the end of the name somehow cause people to quit buying it?
I think you may be on to something. With the onrush of all those android devices priced at $299, Apple may want a piece of that pie. I expect a $199 4s too with a under clocked a5 (800 mhz) and a larger 4in iPhone 5 at $299 and 1 ghz processor. Those android devices like the charge, thunderbolt, etc. weren't all that better than the ip4. If an amazing 4in. ip5 was released I would definitely buy it at $299!
Or, it's the AT&T iPhone along with the Verizon iPhone.
Which is exactly what it is ... because the Verizon iPhone has no SIM slot and differently located "seams".
If Apple only releases an iPhone 4S (or whatever they call it, I'm using the '4S' moniker for a design that is similar to what the iPhone 4 is), which I'm fairly certain is the case, people will be in an uproar. My question to those who are going to be disappointed is this: would you feel that way if Apple released the device back in June?
As many people said, including myself, in January/early February of this year, Apple wouldn't release a new device just four months after millions were sold with the availability of the iPhone on Verizon. People ask "What could have Apple been doing/what problems did they encounter that it took them 16 months to release a 'new' phone with the same design?"
Fact is, this has always been the plan. Apple couldn't come out with a new, albeit similar, iPhone just four months after they sold 4.5 million on Verizon. Imagine the PR storm that would have been. Sure, people could have read the timeline of iPhone releases in the past, but I'm positive a large number of those who bought the phone on Verizon didn't care about that: to them, this iPhone was new on Verizon, thus a 'new' phone.
I'm inclined to believe that this upgrade to the iPhone (the 4S if you will) has been thought out and done for a while now. After all, it's not that hard to place a faster CPU, GPU, RAM and a higher mega-pixel camera onto some silicon and call it a day.
People who argue the case for a redesigned iPhone 5 (I'm going to completely ignore the entire fact that we have seen no physical evidence of it: no rear casing, no volume rockers, no screen, etc.) seem to forget this as well: Apple spent how much money and how much time developing the structure that is the iPhone 4. They also praised its antenna system. To change the design, in some ways, would lend credence to the fact that, in at least some form, Apple's engineers failed to understand the science behind the antenna system and in turn replaced it a year and a half later. Apple rarely admits failure. They did it with MobileMe, and they did it, partially, with the modified antenna on Verizon. While there are still some issues with signal degradation, the modified system on the CDMA iPhone is good enough for at least one more generation.
In short, there is no credible evidence that leads to an iPhone 5 being shown off. We have no pieces of the puzzle, other than case designs (that have been wrong before, and will continue to be wrong, as a lot of their designs stem from mock-ups and rumors) and some inventory screens. Do you really thing Radio Shack and Best Buy have information that others don't? Apple keeps everyone in the dark, except Apple. I'm positive only a handful of people outside of the company have placed their hands on the next-generation iPhone, in any form, let alone those who send out the notice to update inventory systems.
As much as the iPhone 4S may be considered a let down, the evidence for it is overwhelming.
As many people said, including myself, in January/early February of this year, Apple wouldn't release a new device just four months after millions were sold with the availability of the iPhone on Verizon. People ask "What could have Apple been doing/what problems did they encounter that it took them 16 months to release a 'new' phone with the same design?"
Fact is, this has always been the plan. Apple couldn't come out with a new, albeit similar, iPhone just four months after they sold 4.5 million on Verizon. Imagine the PR storm that would have been. Sure, people could have read the timeline of iPhone releases in the past, but I'm positive a large number of those who bought the phone on Verizon didn't care about that: to them, this iPhone was new on Verizon, thus a 'new' phone.
I'm inclined to believe that this upgrade to the iPhone (the 4S if you will) has been thought out and done for a while now. After all, it's not that hard to place a faster CPU, GPU, RAM and a higher mega-pixel camera onto some silicon and call it a day.
People who argue the case for a redesigned iPhone 5 (I'm going to completely ignore the entire fact that we have seen no physical evidence of it: no rear casing, no volume rockers, no screen, etc.) seem to forget this as well: Apple spent how much money and how much time developing the structure that is the iPhone 4. They also praised its antenna system. To change the design, in some ways, would lend credence to the fact that, in at least some form, Apple's engineers failed to understand the science behind the antenna system and in turn replaced it a year and a half later. Apple rarely admits failure. They did it with MobileMe, and they did it, partially, with the modified antenna on Verizon. While there are still some issues with signal degradation, the modified system on the CDMA iPhone is good enough for at least one more generation.
In short, there is no credible evidence that leads to an iPhone 5 being shown off. We have no pieces of the puzzle, other than case designs (that have been wrong before, and will continue to be wrong, as a lot of their designs stem from mock-ups and rumors) and some inventory screens. Do you really thing Radio Shack and Best Buy have information that others don't? Apple keeps everyone in the dark, except Apple. I'm positive only a handful of people outside of the company have placed their hands on the next-generation iPhone, in any form, let alone those who send out the notice to update inventory systems.
As much as the iPhone 4S may be considered a let down, the evidence for it is overwhelming.
Yes apparently ios users will be moving en masse to android now...completely logical conclusion based on the sales records set by the iphone the last four years...but yes, the nexus prime is the iphone killer...
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Lets consider a following scenario:
Spring 2010 - iPhone 4 leaked by Gizmodo. Apple gets furious and plans an ultimate anti-leak plan.
2011 - lots of rumors about iPhone 4S - people "familiar with the subject" tell about better camera, a5 chip and... That's it.
01.10.2011 - Apple releases iTunes beta for a few hours to "leak" 4S data - to lower expectations.
04.10 - iPhone 4s does not exist. It was an elaborate plan created to turn public attention away from real information. iPhone 5 is introduced and all fanboys die from heart attack (too much happiness).
Lets consider a following scenario:
Spring 2010 - iPhone 4 leaked by Gizmodo. Apple gets furious and plans an ultimate anti-leak plan.
2011 - lots of rumors about iPhone 4S - people "familiar with the subject" tell about better camera, a5 chip and... That's it.
01.10.2011 - Apple releases iTunes beta for a few hours to "leak" 4S data - to lower expectations.
04.10 - iPhone 4s does not exist. It was an elaborate plan created to turn public attention away from real information. iPhone 5 is introduced and all fanboys die from heart attack (too much happiness).
My thoughts extactly. I don't see a NewsStand icon, which is in all other iOS 5 images. I don't think this is a new icon, they're just using the CDMA 4 icon.
LOL @ all of you that are disappointed. It was obvious, at-least to me, that Apple wasn't going to release a "teardrop-shaped" iPhone 5.
Plus, the order for iPhones will most likely be like this from now on:
iPhone 2G>iPhone 3G>iPhone 3GS>iPhone 4G>*iPhone 4GS/iPhone 4S*>iPhone 5>iPhone 5GS/5S and so on.
And for those complaining "15 months of work and all we get is a lousy speedbump", you still don't understand how Apple works. They have a great phone and the design is still top notch. They're not going to mess with it now like other phone manufacturers that like to design new phones every 4 months to keep things fresh.
Don't forget, we have iOS5 and iCloud coming. iTunes Match doesn't look like it's a go yet from the betas, but I'm not sure now if Apple will release it anyway.
PS: iTunes beta 9 hasn't been pulled. The link changed according to those in the Apple Dev Forums.
Plus, the order for iPhones will most likely be like this from now on:
iPhone 2G>iPhone 3G>iPhone 3GS>iPhone 4G>*iPhone 4GS/iPhone 4S*>iPhone 5>iPhone 5GS/5S and so on.
And for those complaining "15 months of work and all we get is a lousy speedbump", you still don't understand how Apple works. They have a great phone and the design is still top notch. They're not going to mess with it now like other phone manufacturers that like to design new phones every 4 months to keep things fresh.
Don't forget, we have iOS5 and iCloud coming. iTunes Match doesn't look like it's a go yet from the betas, but I'm not sure now if Apple will release it anyway.
PS: iTunes beta 9 hasn't been pulled. The link changed according to those in the Apple Dev Forums.
I originally believed we would see an all new redesigned iPhone 5 alongside an iPhone 4S. The last few weeks however I've changed my mind. It's my belief they were planning on doing a "5" but something happened (no clue what) and now it's got pushed back, perhaps. The main focus in this event will be on iOS 5 and iCloud and then later on, Tim will unveil the 4S.