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Apple Outs "iPhone 4S" Name in Latest iTunes Beta
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The average iPhone buyer doesn't care about A5 and retina display and iOS5, infact the vast majority have probably never even heard of the words A5 or dual core or retina display they just want a state of the art phone that is sexy and is going to get them noticed when they are out in public with it, they are the sort of people who Apple need to cater for so a simple specs upgrade and the same look will be a serious error, the casual Apple buyers need something that is going to turn heads and Apple know that, us hardcore geeks who queue all night for Apple products and would buy a turd with an Apple logo on it are probably 5-10% at most of Apple buyers.
There will be an iPhone 5 with much sexier look and bigger size unveiled on Tuesday, Apple are not that stupid to simply just bump up the specs of an existing phone in this day and age
There will be an iPhone 5 with much sexier look and bigger size unveiled on Tuesday, Apple are not that stupid to simply just bump up the specs of an existing phone in this day and age
No screen size is not innovation in and of itself, however it is a big part of user experience and with the trend towards larger screens it would be foolish on Apples part to not give the iPhone a larger screen. The phone itself doesn't have to be all that much bigger to accommodate a larger screen and I really don't understand all the resistance to a larger screen size.
You can be a fan and love Apple (I do) but you can't have blinders on. Android is not that far behind iOS. I've been playing around with iOS5 for a few months now and while it is a better than the current version it's not a radical difference. I doubt someone who hasn't had iOS would be blown away by the differences. Visually it looks the same with some minor UI tweaks so we come down to form factor. The average consumer is going to want to see something new and different, even non techie iPhone 3 or 4 users who don't know RAM from storage will have to see something different enough to justify buying the new phone if it's only a 4S.
Right now I hate to say it but I think the iPhone is playing catchup to some Android devices out there. What will happen when WinPhone7/8 comes out with a curved SAMOLED screen? Or the rumored HTC Galaxy S 3? Will you still say the iPhone is ahead of the curve? Pun intended
I think you're pressing a bit too much your hopes for a new i5. You could get disappointed even worse than the rest of us, you know.
People who evaluate companies for real, brokers, traders, etc. They know better. All this crap on the forum about "Tim Cook's legacy" is meaningless. The current product pipeline is all the result of Steve's vision.
If the new iPhone is really just a 4 with an A5 processor, that is a huge disappointment.
But, this doesn't make sense on a few levels.
1. Why are there 2 different logos? All rumors and common sense has pointed to a single phone with a dual-mode GSM/CDMA chip.
2. The iCloud screenshot that showed the definitely different looking iPhone.
I bet these are just placeholders. Apple is known to keep their cards close.
But, this doesn't make sense on a few levels.
1. Why are there 2 different logos? All rumors and common sense has pointed to a single phone with a dual-mode GSM/CDMA chip.
2. The iCloud screenshot that showed the definitely different looking iPhone.
I bet these are just placeholders. Apple is known to keep their cards close.
It would be crackup if the iPhone 5 gets announced in 2 days. arn's face IRL would be priceless.
Devices are planned probably 2 years in advance, I would bet that Steve already signed off the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 7 before stepping down as CEO, the iPad 3 and iPad 4 too, this is not a Cook phone it is a Steve phone
Tim's DNA will not appear in the Apple products until 2014 IMHO
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It will be, for the past 3 nights I have dreamed of Steve Jobs launching an iPhone 5, I have even booked Tuesday off work because I will be too excited about the event to concentrate on any work so Apple had better not let me down, they won't
I agree with this; it isn't like companies (any company that makes things for that matter) make things and then sell, then try and make a new one AFTER the old one is out. THey have these things setup and hidden.
Actually, if you go back and find the Engadget article where they explore Apple and find out how they tested for reception for the iPHone 4, they talk about objects with black cloaks over them (they were back behind the scenes)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/inside-apples-black-lab-wireless-testing-facilities/
There's the link; good read.
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How does apple having a superior device with a superior os allow android to steal marketshare.
So many people are confusing their personal wishes and desires with the actual reasons why people buy apple products.
Quite frankly those thinking it will be a disaster if apple does not introduce two new phones are wrong.
rocknblogger said:
How does apple having a superior device with a superior os allow android to steal marketshare.
So many people are confusing their personal wishes and desires with the actual reasons why people buy apple products.
Quite frankly those thinking it will be a disaster if apple does not introduce two new phones are wrong.
I am really getting sick of these rumours.
Hats off to Apple for keeping the new flagship iPhone a secret.
But to be honest now, if there really is not a redesign, I am not buying it. I know Apple doesn't care about me or some other people; and there are going to be tonnes of people buying this new iPhone, I just don't wanna see an upgraded iPhone 4 shoved up my face.
I don't like iPhone4's design. It just doesn't feel right in the hand. iPhone3G/3GS was amazing to hold; the feel was just right and appropriate.
If there really isn't a new iPhone on the 4th, I'll be really happy to go get a new Mango device the very next day.
/stupid rant.
Hats off to Apple for keeping the new flagship iPhone a secret.
But to be honest now, if there really is not a redesign, I am not buying it. I know Apple doesn't care about me or some other people; and there are going to be tonnes of people buying this new iPhone, I just don't wanna see an upgraded iPhone 4 shoved up my face.
I don't like iPhone4's design. It just doesn't feel right in the hand. iPhone3G/3GS was amazing to hold; the feel was just right and appropriate.
If there really isn't a new iPhone on the 4th, I'll be really happy to go get a new Mango device the very next day.
/stupid rant.
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How come nobody buys any of these better phones? The 3GS outsells ALL of them
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How come nobody buys any of these better phones? The 3GS outsells ALL of them
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Yeah but it has a horrible os so it is capable of much less. Apple can integrate the hardware and software to maximize effectiveness and outperform those devices you erroneously believe to be more capable.
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Yeah but it has a horrible os so it is capable of much less. Apple can integrate the hardware and software to maximize effectiveness and outperform those devices you erroneously believe to be more capable.
Right, never announced, however, they're OBVIOUSLY some new stuff hence it being released a year later. I don't' see how you came to the conclusion of that statement.
No screen size is not innovation in and of itself, however it is a big part of user experience and with the trend towards larger screens it would be foolish on Apples part to not give the iPhone a larger screen. The phone itself doesn't have to be all that much bigger to accommodate a larger screen and I really don't understand all the resistance to a larger screen size.
You can be a fan and love Apple (I do) but you can't have blinders on. Android is not that far behind iOS. I've been playing around with iOS5 for a few months now and while it is a better than the current version it's not a radical difference. I doubt someone who hasn't had iOS would be blown away by the differences. Visually it looks the same with some minor UI tweaks so we come down to form factor. The average consumer is going to want to see something new and different, even non techie iPhone 3 or 4 users who don't know RAM from storage will have to see something different enough to justify buying the new phone if it's only a 4S.
Right now I hate to say it but I think the iPhone is playing catchup to some Android devices out there. What will happen when WinPhone7/8 comes out with a curved SAMOLED screen? Or the rumored HTC Galaxy S 3? Will you still say the iPhone is ahead of the curve? Pun intended
perfect way of putting it! especially when you said, "You can be a fan and love Apple (I do) but you can't have blinders on. Android is not that far behind iOS." +1
I don't think we have seen the full effects of iOS5 yet, it gives apps a lot of great new tools to work with so I think you have to wait until you see how apps are improved with iOS5. One big thing that comes to mind is the syncing of data between various installations of an app, this is huge. Now that Apple automatically downloads apps you buy on one device to all other devices, I am finding myself starting a game on one device, then later picking up another device and wanting to just start where I left off on the other device (some games like Words with Friends do this, but with their own proprietary syncing technology). Once developers starting using the iCloud syncing feature of iOS5, you'll be able to just use any device you have with one set of data, that is HUGE.
Wrong. Consumers almost always go with "bigger is better". They will buy it for faster specs, if they understand it or not.
Yet that flawed design sold better than all the competition.
Well, most would shout specs but there definitely are some great phones out there. Mozart7 is a great device. Although, its battery is just half as good as an iPhone surprisingly.
I really like windows phones as the software is just so awesome. I won't be comparing it with iOS, but it definitely has some great UX design written all over it.
Well, people have choices? 3GS does not outsell all of them together, I suppose. People do buy those phones.
Some of these phones are cheap too and that helps to sell a lot, really. I would have bought my mama and my aunt an iPhone4 if it was cheap enough; but I got two windows phones running decent software on decent software for a combined price of £500 ~ price of iPhone4.
But yes, I'd buy a windows phone if the form factor is still the same. Don't care about LTE, 4G, assistant or unicorns; I'd still buy a windows phone.