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iPhone 4S Volume Buttons

On the new icons of this supposed iPhone 4S there are no volume buttons on the right side...

Rumor has it and photos of the iPhone 4S Otter Box Case show the new phone to have the volume buttons on the right side above the sim slot.

Hello!! Is this not strange ???
 

and to be fair the A5 and some added RAM will be quite nice, but at this point they really need to up the screen size. Honestly a decent screen size an expectation of smartphone consumers these days, even for me and I've been iPhone user since the launch of the original iPhone.
 
and to be fair the A5 and some added RAM will be quite nice, but at this point they really need to up the screen size. Honestly a decent screen size an expectation of smartphone consumers these days, even for me and I've been iPhone user since the launch of the original iPhone.

thats along the lines of what i've been trying to tell these people all day
 
You spec boys are way off base here. This could be the most important event in years. Voice control and response is going to be the killer feature of Assistant. It will no longer be the lame speech recognition we have been used to. This is going to be the next level, you know like in how it is supposed to work in the SciFi movies. The newer A5 will be needed for that so the 4s's will have it and sell like hotcakes and the coolness factor will be off the chart. You just tell it what to do and it can answer or screen your calls for you!. All the hardware geeks are bemoaning the specs and are again missing the how great it will just work aspect. It's like when you were saying the iPad was a total fail because it didn't have enough ports. It's the software this time that has the WOW.
Remember the invite!! Most seem to have missed the hint -- Let's TALK iPhone!
It's not just me that sees this..
http://www.cultofmac.com/116677/why-...mportant-ever/
 
Why would Apple keep the same design as their last generation when it caused lots of attenna problems? Doesn't really make sense?

and why would Case producers make cases for the Tear Drop design, They wouldn't do it unless they had concrete information.

Look anyway,all will be revealed on Tuesday,If Apple stays with the current iPhone 4 design with upgraded internals,it just won't sell.
 
Voice control and response is going to be the killer feature of Assistant.

That's what Apple will say. In reality, though, the voice control feature will likely be a gimmick that few people will use at all; no matter how accurate voice recognisition is, it's unlikely that it will be as accurate as using your hand, and only in few circunstances it's better to talk than to simply use fingers.
 
TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY WONT CALL IT 4S BECAUSE IT "MESSES UP" THE NUMBERING SCHEME

Uhh.... Who cares? You think Apple is going to keep naming iPhone models after the generation? "IPhone 7, iPhone 8, etc"? No. Obviously not. Eventually they are going to have to just call it "iPhone" again.

Contrary to what most of you seem to think, it makes *more* sense for apple to name this iPhone '4S'. Why? Because that way, next year they can jump on the 4G bandwagon and market the hell out of it having 4G.
I can see it now... Either iPhone 4G or 4GS

If they go with iPhone 5 now, next year they might have to call it "iPhone 5 with 4G". That seems stupid when they can just straight up call it the iPhone 4G (like they did with the 3G). Alternatively, they could simply call it "iPhone"
"IPhone, now with 4G"

But I don't think they would wanna miss the opportunity to call it the iPhone 4G

Just my $0.02
 
Perhaps, but with all the texting and driving issues and new laws around that, I can see Assistant being huge if it works well.
 
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Man... I just want to know the story of the teardrop design. If the 4s is it, I hope the behind the scenes story leaks of what truly happened...
 
Probably never will. Based on codenames, I'm guessing there were several other devices we never saw and never will.
 
Problem is, you'd probably still need to have a phone out and read the text in order to know how to respond. Distractions.

I'll bet that Assistant can also read your text message(s) aloud if you want, via text-to-speech. The question is, how much work is it to initiate that while you are in the middle of driving.
 
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Geckotek said:
You can't think about this through a spec standpoint only. The biggest factor for the average consumer is the price vs experience they'll be receiving, the Cost-Benefit Analysis.

Most consumers don't do cost-benefit analysis. They are emotional buyers.

You also can't compare computers to smartphones like this.
Yes you can. Specs are specs and they drive emotion. Just like the draw of Apple is an emotion. You contradict your own arguments this way by saying Apple is the draw but not specs. Both are a draw for the same reason....emotion.

A redesign would also stir emotion. Price is secondary unless it is the primary limiting factor (they can't afford it).

Either way, whatever Apple launches will sell, low-end, high-end, redesign, or not.

But apple has and continues to have the top selling smartphoneS because of the superior experience and not the specs.

No iPhone has ever been the best specced phone because that plays only a very small part in making a desirable smartphone.
 
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By what measurement?

simple. hardware specs.

Which is clearly meaningless so who cares?
 
Existence is not limited by knowledge of said existence.

But due to the fact that you cannot prove that it does exist, one can argue that it does not exist. You can't prove that it does. Ergo, I can simply say it doesn't exist.

Since I can't prove a negative, you have to prove the positive. If you can't, well.... there you go.

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Which is clearly meaningless so who cares?

You did good in your last post, don't jump the shark.
 
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aeaglex07 said:

and to be fair the A5 and some added RAM will be quite nice, but at this point they really need to up the screen size. Honestly a decent screen size an expectation of smartphone consumers these days, even for me and I've been iPhone user since the launch of the original iPhone.

Then why do the top two selling smart phones have 3.5" screens.

I only want a bigger screen if it has the same or less weight, the same or lower battery usage, the same or smaller dimensions, the same or better resolution.

None of the larger android screens accomplish that and most accomplish none of them. So if we really care that little about the device we use and just want a bigger screen why not a 5.75" screen that would be awesome day what...
 
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But apple has and continues to have the top selling smartphoneS because of the superior experience and not the specs.

No iPhone has ever been the best specced phone because that plays only a very small part in making a desirable smartphone.

Yes, but the argument is, what happens when 2 Apple products go up against each other. Specs make a difference at that point.

But due to the fact that you cannot prove that it does exist, one can argue that it does not exist. You can't prove that it does. Ergo, I can simply say it doesn't exist.

Since I can't prove a negative, you have to prove the positive. If you can't, well.... there you go.

I'm not arguing it's existence. I'm arguing Unowen's reasoning...which is false. Our lack of knowledge does not make something which exists....suddenly not exist.

(If it doesn't exist....while being correct, his reasoning is still false).
 
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Then why do the top two selling smart phones have 3.5" screens.

I only want a bigger screen if it has the same or less weight, the same or lower battery usage, the same or smaller dimensions, the same or better resolution.

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Actually the newer Samsung phones accomplish all this quite well. For the iPhone to have a 4" screen it doesn't have to be much bigger. Maybe an 1/8th inch on each side. As far as weight goes I think Apple can accomplish this very easily. And as far as the "best selling smart phones", yes but only as it pertains against single Android handset makers. But not against Android phones as a whole. Larger screen Android phones are outselling iPhones.

And generally speaking the majority of Smartphone users would prefer a larger screen. You can read more of my reasoning here as I don't want to keep saying the same thing over and over. https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13446091&#post13446091
 
Actually the newer Samsung phones accomplish all this quite well. For the iPhone to have a 4" screen it doesn't have to be much bigger. Maybe an 1/8th inch on each side. As far as weight goes I think Apple can accomplish this very easily. And as far as the "best selling smart phones", yes but only as it pertains against single Android handset makers. But not against Android phones as a whole. Larger screen Android phones are outselling iPhones.

And generally speaking the majority of Smartphone users would prefer a larger screen. You can read more of my reasoning here as I don't want to keep saying the same thing over and over. https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13446091&#post13446091

Yeah what does android as a whole have to do anything? That doesn't make any sense. Who cares about that... We are talking about people buying individual phones, why would we compare two phones against two hundred? That seems silly.

If one of these Android phones were that great lots of people would buy it wouldn't they? Or do android buyers only go for the best 2 for 1 deal when they sign up for their contract and they don't care about specs or quality at all?
 
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Then why do the top two selling smart phones have 3.5" screens.

I only want a bigger screen if it has the same or less weight, the same or lower battery usage, the same or smaller dimensions, the same or better resolution.

None of the larger android screens accomplish that and most accomplish none of them. So if we really care that little about the device we use and just want a bigger screen why not a 5.75" screen that would be awesome day what...

Because they are iPhones. That's like saying, why are (insert specifications for tires on economy cars) tires the top selling tires? Obviously because that's what comes on the top selling car.

See the problem there?

Yes, but the argument is, what happens when 2 Apple products go up against each other. Specs make a difference at that point.

I'm not arguing it's existence. I'm arguing Unowen's reasoning...which is false. Our lack of knowledge does not make something which exists....suddenly not exist.

(If it doesn't exist....while being correct, his reasoning is still false).

1) Obviously; and you'll see what is happening right now with the 3GS and the 4. People buy the 4 and the people who can't afford or don't want it get the 3GS. Am I missing the point?

2) WHat I'm saying is, what is the reasoning behind you stating that? We don't know whether it exists or not, so... *stops*

I guess I"m asking, what's the point of stating the obvious? Unless the obvious was the point you were trying to make, in which I retract this 2nd part.

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Yeah what does android as a whole have to do anything? That doesn't make any sense. Who cares about that... We are talking about people buying individual phones, why would we compare two phones against two hundred? That seems silly.

If one of these Android phones were that great lots of people would buy it wouldn't they? Or do android buyers only go for the best 2 for 1 deal when they sign up for their contract and they don't care about specs or quality at all?

Quality doesn't directly correlate with sales. I'm assuming you're somewhat young, otherwise you'd know this.

Sadly, the world just doesn't work that way, but this applies with pretty much everything; it sucks, and when you get older you'll realize how messed up it is.

Off the top of my head, the saying "it's not what you know, it's who you know" is like nails on a chalkboard. College students can recognize it when they see it: kids that get in because their parents are alumni or have a thick wallet; people getting jobs because they have "connections" when they aren't qualified. Just to give an example.

But to stick with phones; the stores and companies "push" phones to customers when they walk in. If they want to sell Galaxy S 2s (which they will, all of the carriers), they'll put up posters and tell the reps to PUSH THAT PHONE HARD. Seriously; you couldn't walk into an ATT store within a month of the Atrix's release without being hustled into checking the thing out.

I still walk into my ATT and hear "welcome to ATT, home of the iPhone". There's a reason they do that. They're being told to.
 
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