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What are you actually doing for those 4.5 hours that your battery is going dead?

Browsing the web, texting, making calls, the usual.

As per the Apple Store, ~4.5 hrs of usage on one charge is normal.

I shouldn't have to change how I use my phone to get adequate battery life. Apple should work on improving the battery life to be adequate.
 
Browsing the web, texting, making calls, the usual.

As per the Apple Store, ~4.5 hrs of usage on one charge is normal.

I shouldn't have to change how I use my phone to get adequate battery life. Apple should work on improving the battery life to be adequate.

Sure! Just like Android does, which is why I always had to carry spare batteries with my Evo...
 
The standby time is variable. What matters is the actual usage time, and the usage time is far from adequate.

Sure! Just like Android does, which is why I always had to carry spare batteries with my Evo...

Atleast you have the option to carry spare batteries, to swap out when the evo dies after 4.5 hrs of usage. That's not an option for the iPhone.
 
Well, no, not really. If it lasts two days standby AND 4.5 hours usage, that's a lot different than having it die 4.5 hours after taking it off the charger.
 
Why is everyone arguing about the battery life? There's obviously a bug that may have not been fully addressed by 5.0.1 for some people (including myself), but we know from the ip4 track record what to expect. Anyway, my perfect iphone would have a 4" retina screen and be closer to the form factor of the ipod touch, ditching the crappy back glass.
 
In what aspect is the 4s beyond competitors? It has a worse screen size, cpu clockspeed, ram, battery size and battery life than competitors. It's on par with them only in the areas of gpu and resoultion. But in most areas, it's actually behind others, not ahead.
You've been talking about specifications this entire time. Let me ask you this: if the specifications weren't published, and you didn't know that the iPhone 4S was "deficient" compared to the Android phones, would you complain? Is the phone unpleasant to use, or incapable of doing what you want?

I'm sorry that Apple doesn't offer a phone with a larger screen for you. And battery life - well, we all want better battery life. Yet the 4S is an amazing phone. I'm coming from an iPhone 2G, and compared a range of Android and Windows Mobile (my smartphone origins) phones to the 4S. I bought a 4S today.

I can sympathize with you, because I'm also a bit of a tech-spec fan. But ultimately, it doesn't matter anymore. You're unhappy because you believe that the 4S could be even better if it had better specifications. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, yet the 4S still offers amazing performance and an excellent user experience. You have an amazing phone in your hands - be happy!
 
The standby time is variable. What matters is the actual usage time, and the usage time is far from adequate.



Atleast you have the option to carry spare batteries, to swap out when the evo dies after 4.5 hrs of usage. That's not an option for the iPhone.

I've got an extended battery case, as someone else mentioned. Heart patients don't take risks of being without a phone.

However, even without it, I got 7 hours of usage, 14 standby.
 
All I said was that Apple should respect it's customers enough to continue to deliver cutting edge products, rather than sticking with old technologies that competitors have long since left behind.

You do realize the Processor used in the Nexus Prime is 45nm as well?

So I guess the competitors haven't left behind much...

Also, you do realize the A6 is going to be 28nm?

So... what are you complaining about? O yeah, Apple not investing into technology... :rolleyes:
 
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The standby time is variable. What matters is the actual usage time, and the usage time is far from adequate.

My standby is 2 days and 18hours, usage 3hours and 59 minutes.
26% left right now.
Tell us your standby time and usage
 
Meh... they COULD spend more money per unit and then they'd be at a cross roads... charge the carriers more and thus pass the extra costs down to us the consumer or charge the same amount as the current market price for the same units and take a bigger hit on their own bottom line. Probably the same amount of units would be sold as the current 4S so they'd just end up making much LESS money.

Any person with a primary school education should understand supply and demand.

The 4S will sell gang busters with a small but respectable update and your company will make bank... why jam tons of margin shrinking tech that makes only a minute difference in something that will sell no matter what?

This is why Apple is one of the last great American companies and you're some twit writing about insignificant BS on the internet.
 
The standby time is variable. What matters is the actual usage time, and the usage time is far from adequate.

My standby is 2 days and 18hours, usage 3hours and 59 minutes.
26% left right now.
Tell us your standby time and usage

My phone is almost always dead before I leave work at 4pm. It's fully charged over night so it's fully charged at 7am.

Today isn't a workday and the phone is already on the charger but yes, my usage time is 4.5 hrs and my standby time is less than 9 hrs. That is unacceptably low, but apparently, perfectly in line with what is to be expected according to Apple.
 
You have more money than Intel and Samsung combined.

Uhh, no. Samsung has about 3x the assets of Apple ($300B+ vs. $100B+) and twice the equity ($140B vs $75B). Intel is about $10B behind Apple.

Market cap does not equal how much money/assets a company has.
 
Meh... they COULD spend more money per unit and then they'd be at a cross roads... charge the carriers more and thus pass the extra costs down to us the consumer or charge the same amount as the current market price for the same units and take a bigger hit on their own bottom line. Probably the same amount of units would be sold as the current 4S so they'd just end up making much LESS money.

Any person with a primary school education should understand supply and demand.

The 4S will sell gang busters with a small but respectable update and your company will make bank.

So what you're telling me is that as a consumer, you have zero respect for yourself.

Other companies care about the bottom line over everything else, and they long term lose customers using that philosophy.

Apple has historically built customer loyalty and made money by investing in expensive technologies and processes in order to deliver superior products with superior build quality.

Apple spends a bucket load more to build all their laptops on a Unibody construction, all from one solid block of alumunium. That's not cheap, it's pricy as hell, and Apple opted to go that route anyways because it was the better choice, regardless of cost.

It's decisions like that made Apple so popular amongst it's consumers.

And Apple needs to continue to think like that even with Steve Jobs gone, continue to give it's customers top notch products, even if it costs them more money, if it wants to continue on the path that Steve Jobs and Johnathan Ivy set them on.
 
My phone is almost always dead before I leave work at 4pm. It's fully charged over night so it's fully charged at 7am.

Today isn't a workday and the phone is already on the charger but yes, my usage time is 4.5 hrs and my standby time is less than 9 hrs. That is unacceptably low, but apparently, perfectly in line with what is to be expected according to Apple.

Standby time at 9hrs? I call BS! Standby I am almost 2 days.

If you told that to an Apple Store Genius, and they said it was normal? Don't believe you.
 
You clearly don't use your phone nearly as much as I do.

Like I said, the phone is dead before work ends at 4pm. It's fully charged at 7am. Do the math yourself.

And yes, according to Apple, that's normal.
 
By your analogy, we ...
No, no ... it's about you, not "we".

You are a high maintenance customer. Apple doesn't want you. Apple doesn't need you. Sell all of your Apple products and go directly to DellRumors.com or AndroidRumors.com or wherever. Buy & complain there.
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Standby time at 9hrs? I call BS! Standby I am almost 2 days.

If you told that to an Apple Store Genius, and they said it was normal? Don't believe you.

At 41% I guarantee this battery, without my extended case isn't going to hit 9 hours standby, so not everyone gets exceptional life.
 

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I want to hear what you have to say to Mikhail. He came up with a legit well-informed reply but you haven't even acknowledged it....
 
Browsing the web, texting, making calls, the usual.

As per the Apple Store, ~4.5 hrs of usage on one charge is normal.

I shouldn't have to change how I use my phone to get adequate battery life. Apple should work on improving the battery life to be adequate.

hmm I'm at 4 hours 30 minutes usage with 14 hours standby and have 50 % left
 
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