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Not a useful comment but: WOW! That's really... neat! I'm looking forward to this. My university is working out a deal with Apple right now. We got Tiger for $10 - 15. I hope we get the same for Leopard.
 
Apparently the REAL time machine background was too ugly for their marketing campaign. Notice how the Leopard box/Apple home page has a purple background behind the X instead of the much uglier "yellowish" background in the actual Time Machine app. I don't even like purple, but it looks much better.

Looks like an amazing upgrade, and with all of the enhancements under the hood I can't wait to get this puppy on my 24" iMac.

I also want to know what the best method to use an external HD for both a TM backup and extra storage would be. I'm assuming they would suggest partitioning it, but if it's not necessary I'd be happy to leave it as one. (I have a lot of DV files that I don't keep on my main drive ...they don't really need to be backed up because I can just pull them back off the DV tapes if I ever lost them.)
 
Vista Comparison

I currently have Vista installed on my computer, and I feel that it is step forward toward harmony from XP. Yeah, it has its down hills, such as through installing MASSIVE programs and doing what-not but I feel more comfortable using it. XP had too many problems, and I had to restore my computer about 4 times during its 5 year life. Vista is, in opinion, just an OS for Microsoft to throw out the door and to wait a couple of years to release something revolutionary. Early reports have been showing that the next Windows OS will stop using the classic "OS Hard Drive Database" in other words, there won't be 10GB of storage being used toward Windows. I just bought my computer about 4 months ago, so I will probably have to wait a couple of years for me to buy another computer, but I know then it will most most surely be a Mac.

In a summary, I don't hate Vista. It is actually graphically really nice, but productively its not. I'm happy with it, and I already have March 2008 circled on my calender for Service Pack 1. :D:apple:
 
Should come in a 10.5 update (10.4 for R/W is my guess)...

I've tested ZFS on Solaris. It's really awesome. They got rid of the concept of diskgroup containing volumes which contain file systems and replaced it with storage pools which contain one or more disk devices. In these storage pools you can create multiple file systems that are re-sizable and can be mirrored and can create snapshots of them.

It's just wonderful. I wonder if they are going to include all features that are in Solaris or will a limited version be included. They definitely need it for OSX server. I wonder if they are going to revamp XSan with ZFS for its storage management.

Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see.
 
I currently have Vista installed on my computer, and I feel that it is step forward toward harmony from XP. Yeah, it has its down hills, such as through installing MASSIVE programs and doing what-not but I feel more comfortable using it. XP had too many problems, and I had to restore my computer about 4 times during its 5 year life. Vista is, in opinion, just an OS for Microsoft to throw out the door and to wait a couple of years to release something revolutionary. Early reports have been showing that the next Windows OS will stop using the classic "OS Hard Drive Database" in other words, there won't be 10GB of storage being used toward Windows. I just bought my computer about 4 months ago, so I will probably have to wait a couple of years for me to buy another computer, but I know then it will most most surely be a Mac.

In a summary, I don't hate Vista. It is actually graphically really nice, but productively its not. I'm happy with it, and I already have March 2008 circled on my calender for Service Pack 1. :D:apple:
What MS needs to do is rewrite the OS from scratch. Do away with all of the legacy crap in it. This shouldn't be very hard in this day and age. We have very fast computers now. All they would need to do is do something similar to Classic in OS X. Have the brand spanking new, low bloat OS that runs all the newly developed apps, and also ship the OS with a copy of Win XP that runs as a virtual machine. Any app that doesn't work in the new OS can automatically open up in this "Classic like" environment.

Legacy Schmegacy...
 
Definitely, but we all know Apple could do it better if they tried...

I'm not sure if apple wants to get into infrastructure virtualization for multiple platforms with products like ESX and so forth. I somehow don't think they want to support Solaris, Linux and Windows running on different hardware platforms like Compaq, Dell and wintel platforms.
 
Well if your running OSX 10.5 SERVER it mimics the rumored portable home directory - however you have to be running the Server software.

Thanks, so let me see if I understand this...

I have a Server (with 10.5 server edition installed)
I have several client computers (with 10.5 client edition installed)

The client computers connect to the server for authentication, network drives, etc.

can accounts on the client computer(s) take advantage of this mobile home folder feature, or only accounts local to the computer(s) with server edition installed ?
 
What MS needs to do is rewrite the OS from scratch. Do away with all of the legacy crap in it. This shouldn't be very hard in this day and age. We have very fast computers now. All they would need to do is do something similar to Classic in OS X. Have the brand spanking new, low bloat OS that runs all the newly developed apps, and also ship the OS with a copy of Win XP that runs as a virtual machine. Any app that doesn't work in the new OS can automatically open up in this "Classic like" environment.

Legacy Schmegacy...

Bravo. I totally agree.

But I realize re-coding an entire OS is a huge task. I imagine OS X wasn't brand new from the bottom up, more that it was Nextstep at heart.
 
When Apple set out to create OS X, they didn't say "Everything MUST run with all the new features!", they new they couldn't innovate by doing that. Sure, classic support was added, but it was just an emulation of OS9. They were able to provide a gentle migration while creating a new platform that would carry them into the next decade.

They got rid of all their cobwebs, so to speak.
 
What MS needs to do is rewrite the OS from scratch. Do away with all of the legacy crap in it. This shouldn't be very hard in this day and age. We have very fast computers now. All they would need to do is do something similar to Classic in OS X. Have the brand spanking new, low bloat OS that runs all the newly developed apps, and also ship the OS with a copy of Win XP that runs as a virtual machine. Any app that doesn't work in the new OS can automatically open up in this "Classic like" environment.

Legacy Schmegacy...

Sounds logical except that Microsoft has never been capable of creating such an OS and only entered the OS business pirating someone else's work and has since declared that the basis of their strategy is "marketing, marketing, marketing" instead of quality. Thank God Apple was in a position to make the revolutionary change from OS 9 to OS X and had NeXT as their foundation. Microsoft has no such foundation to build upon and understands their $$ is tied to legacy, bundling, marketshare and OEM licensing deals.
 
Sounds logical except that Microsoft has never been capable of creating such an OS and only entered the OS business pirating someone else's work and has since declared that the basis of their strategy is "marketing, marketing, marketing" instead of quality. Thank God Apple was in a position to make the revolutionary change from OS 9 to OS X and had NeXT as their foundation. Microsoft has no such foundation to build upon and understands their $$ is tied to legacy, bundling, marketshare and OEM licensing deals.
If MS can't create an OS with all that money piled in their bank accts ...I don't know of anyone who could.

Maybe this is their cue to jump onto the Open Source bandwagon :p
 
It's impressive that OS X framework can be changed from powerpc to intel platform with limited compiling for software vendors. I doubt that windows could have achieved such a success. I wonder how much of that success is due to NextStep design versus apples ingenuity.
 
im amaze with the docks TRASH REFLECTION! designed in california. saw like a chinese CECT 168:D
 
It's impressive that OS X framework can be changed from powerpc to intel platform with limited compiling for software vendors. I doubt that windows could have achieved such a success. I wonder how much of that success is due to NextStep design versus apples ingenuity.
You do realize it was easy for Apple to pull this off because they have maybe 4-5% market share? Say what you want about Windows, but it holds 90%+ of the market, and thus it cannot easily be ported from one processor platform to another.
 
Sounds logical except that Microsoft has never been capable of creating such an OS and only entered the OS business pirating someone else's work and has since declared that the basis of their strategy is "marketing, marketing, marketing" instead of quality. Thank God Apple was in a position to make the revolutionary change from OS 9 to OS X and had NeXT as their foundation. Microsoft has no such foundation to build upon and understands their $$ is tied to legacy, bundling, marketshare and OEM licensing deals.
And at no time Apple has never copied features from Microsoft? Where do you think Spotlight and Time Machine came from? Certainly not Apple. They just took Microsoft's concepts to market first and gave them a pretty GUI. And where do you think Spaces came from? It was taken straight from Unix-like OS such as Linux.

And at no time has Windows ever pirated other codes. Do you not understand the idea that something can be similar without being the same? I guess you conveniently forgot just how many features have been added to Leopard's Finder just to bring it up to par with Windows Explorer.

And remember that if you ever need to go the emergency room, it may very well be a machine powered by a Windows server that saves your life. :p
 
"And remember that if you ever need to go the emergency room, it may very well be a machine powered by a Windows server that saves your life. "

Now that's scary !!!!
 
So I finally got around retrieving my ADC password (don't ask), and after using it and recovering my iTunes library plus iPhone stuff I can say that I am positively surprised by how much I like it.

I have not test yet the grammar checker but seem work not well in Safari.
haha
 
And at no time Apple has never copied features from Microsoft? Where do you think Spotlight and Time Machine came from? Certainly not Apple. They just took Microsoft's concepts to market first and gave them a pretty GUI. And where do you think Spaces came from? It was taken straight from Unix-like OS such as Linux.

While this is fair comment, as far as I'm concerned I don't really care who came up with the idea first... it's going to be pretty hard to come up with something these days that is 'entirely innovative' and that no one else can claim they had thought of the same/ something similar. What matters is how well these ideas are achieved, and what Apple seems to have a good track record for is making things work in an integrated and simple way. That's why Time Machine is great - not because no other backup program has ever had automated regular backups or a way to restore files, but because with the way it is implemented it is easy, and works well. Same applies for spaces, yes it's been in Linux but not in the easy to use, attractive way it is in Leopard.
 
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