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Apple Posts Mac OS 10.5 Leopard Guided Tour
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The iPod touch hasn't replaced the iPod classic, they are both still current products
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/10/11/ipod_classic_the_last_hurrah_for_hdd_based_ipods.html
I doubt that will happen for at least two generations...those used to carrying round their whole massive library will be very pissed if they get a 32GB or even 64GB limit...
I can understand people getting turned off by that type of attitude, but why on earth would those people come to macRUMORS? Any normal human being I have ever talked to about macrumors or appleinsider always laughs at me because they KNOW I love Apple and their products that much that I would go to sites like that. It doesnt really make sense that we shun "fanboys" on a MacRumors forum.
I guess you could call me a fanboy. I dont think apple is perfect (no any company on the face of the earth), but I have been thrilled with well above 90% of the products Apple that have come out since I started liking Apple. There are things that I disagree with or cases where I think Apple intentionally crippled products to get higher sales and have something better to look forward to (like many of the iPod features that could have been implemented earlier), but when it comes down to it, Apple's products have always been amazing.
Yes, this is personal preference. You can whine about what you don't like about Leopard, or any Apple product for that matter, or you can be thrilled with everything in Leopard. There will never be 100% objectivity.
Well, to answer both of you: people could visit these forums because they have problems and want to talk about them with others. Because they want to know what future products might become available. Becuse they might want to talk with people who are using a "niche" system. None of those reaons require fanatical commitment to Apple or their products. Hell, I could see myself going to a user-meetup and I AM a paying member of Finnish Mac User Group. But that still doesn't mean that I'm fanatical Mac-user who worships the ground Steve Jobs stands on. I can see the faults in Apple's products. I do think that they are the best products available overall, but that stil doesn't mean that I have to feel that they are lightyears ahead of everything else on every possible metric, nor does it mean that I have the need to disparage other products and/or companies. Yes, I complain if I have a valid reason to do so.
Hell, I'm also a paying member of the Finnish Linux User Group!
The download took less then 4 minutes (382 MB). I must say that Time Machine's execution of background data back-up is very elegant. And the retrieval very user friendly. It is VSC on steroids. The idea itself is not new but Apple's rendition is, as always, very thoughtful. Nice. The rest I'll experience myself once Leopard is on my iMac after it has landed.
To comment on some of the earlier replies; there already is a commercial product for Linux that provides for full read-write access to NTFS partitions. So 'not licenced by MS' is not true. And sometimes I wonder why so many threads wind up in mud fights about MS or MS products. I thought this was a forum about Apple products?
To comment on some of the earlier replies; there already is a commercial product for Linux that provides for full read-write access to NTFS partitions. So 'not licenced by MS' is not true. And sometimes I wonder why so many threads wind up in mud fights about MS or MS products. I thought this was a forum about Apple products?
I agree with you that Apple makes great products, but they have faults. But from an extremist "fanboy" perspective, He would say that He loves everything about Apple and thinks it is way better than anything out there. That is an opinion. From the "anti-fanboy" perspective, He would say think rationally and objectively, there are plenty of things better than Apple and it's products. That is an opinion too. Then we start the cycle of "No, you're wrong, and I'm right. No I'm right and you are wrong." It just keeps going and going and going.
No one will back down, so why must we continue to argue it?
EDIT: Using an operating system, or features, or applications for that matter, is a matter of personal preference. Let's just talk about the guided tour.
Well spoken. Can't wait to get my hands on some time machine, right now I just manually back up my whole user folder. I would love to not have to remember to do anything.
One of the things I am a little nervous about is how it works with airdisk. I am always taking my laptop in and out of my apartment for class and work and stuff. I hope it doesn't send me any error messages or anything like that.
Also, I have a home media server set up with my iTunes library on an old powermac. I am very excited about the new server connection in the finder window along with screen sharing. It will make things so much easier to add music and movies. Now if only iTunes enabled connecting to multiple libraries at the same time.
Forget about external USB drive. Does Time Machine work on a network drive? That's where I want to backup the data.
The video mentioned that you can backup the "whole" operating system using Time Machine. So, if I back it up to a network drive can I restore that image to another Mac?
i doubt it, unless its the same model
drivers will be backed up as well, so say a macbook pro backup will not work on a mac mini
i may be wrong though...
But isn't it true that the OS X has all platform drivers installed. The only drivers that get loaded are the ones that are discovered during the loading of the operating system.
QuickTime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notable_litigation_of_Apple_Inc.
and http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/5F0C866C-6DDF-4A9A-9515-531B0CA0C29C.html
the CP/M origin of QDOS/MS/PCDOS is pretty shady. Killdall thought it was a ripoff. He died and the company regretted not suing when it all happened. Of course, I'm sure Tim Paterson just sat with a CP/M manual for 6 months and never peeked at the code when he wrote QDOS.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/30/msdos_paternity_suit_resolved/
Why would you want to do that? Bare metal restore?
Couple of reasons. I want to upgrade to a bigger hard drive. My hard drive crashed. It's free, don't want to pay for third party vendor software.
The iPod touch hasn't replaced the iPod classic, they are both still current products
My point was that it will eventually (2-3 years or sooner). It's the way it's heading. Even now, you can see Apple views touch as the pinnacle of the iPod line up.
The point I was demonstrating is they could easily have sold HD iPods with a similar UI for the next 5 years and still make a profit, but, being Apple, they wanted to move on and keep upping the ante.
no idea
ive been using osx for a month!!
all i know is the new MBP have a newer build of tiger than other systems...
Another question, does Time Machine work with files on a network drive or USB drive or is it limited to local drives.
Meaning that if I have two external USB drives can I configure the second external drive as backup to the first external drive? And can I do the same thing with two network drives?
Meaning that if I have two external USB drives can I configure the second external drive as backup to the first external drive? And can I do the same thing with two network drives?
All the drivers are installed but there are certain models of newer hardware that you can't image from another source.
I can't image the current iMac or MacBook Pro Santa Rosa from my current image since it doesn't include the drivers for that hardware, yet.
Well, since you are always going against me as a "fanboy", it's not surprising that you single out my remarks for your "enlightened" answers.
I couldn't care less about SJ and his billions, but I value his contributions as a "keeper of the Apple way"; indeed, without happy customers and "fanboys" like me, Apple would be nonexistent as of now. We were the ones believing in the company and buying its products when everyone else was screaming "down with Apple" or "Apple is doomed".
I was among the ones using System when it was still a closed "System", and I cherish that. I played with SCSI when any other PC was with IDE. I had ADB and the Apple Extended Keyboard II when you guys had serial crap.
With "on the fence" attitudes like yours, I am sure Apple would be getting nothing by then. Instead, I am sure those "rational customers" would have jumped ship a long time ago, be it for Amiga, Linux, Sun or the grand ol' PC.
Once more, NO thanks; I will be waiting for clear arguments on why Windows with a PC is better than OS X with a Mac. Apart from gaming and custom apps, there is nothing of an argument from your part to defend Windows...I know it's difficult to see why we like it so much, especially when you are unable to see that the key is seamless integration and design made FOR the customer, and not the opposite, where the customer has to adapt himself to whatever crap these companies do. That's why:
1 - the iPod is still the best;
2 - the iPhone is shocking the mobile world;
3 - the Mac has always been better.
Well, you have always known it, right?
With regards to Time Machine hard drives
Hey! I had some of the same questions about Time Machine that are floating around here so I thought I'd contribute.
I went to the Palo Alto, Apple Store near my college and asked alot of the same questions cuz I wasn't sure either as far as how big to go. They suggested twice the size of my internal hard drive. I thought that made sense. You can be sure you can always back up the whole system plus some.
So having a 160GB HD, I got me a G Drive 320GB for Time Machine. For Media (iTunes Movies mostly) I'm using my old backup drive, a 250GB Lie Cie.
Hey! I had some of the same questions about Time Machine that are floating around here so I thought I'd contribute.
I went to the Palo Alto, Apple Store near my college and asked alot of the same questions cuz I wasn't sure either as far as how big to go. They suggested twice the size of my internal hard drive. I thought that made sense. You can be sure you can always back up the whole system plus some.
So having a 160GB HD, I got me a G Drive 320GB for Time Machine. For Media (iTunes Movies mostly) I'm using my old backup drive, a 250GB Lie Cie.
Try carbon copy cloner. I used it as a Mac Consultant for Appalachian State University for cloning and reimaging builds. It is great for a complete copy of the system and it is free.
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
wow, thats made such a difference!!! Thanks
photoshop cs3 loads up in 5 bounces of the icon, rather than 17! (i dont want to disable bounces, i may do on leopard as i think its easier to see when an app is loaded)
and iphoto, pages etc all load up so much faster! thanks... now its like im using the imac he is...
What are you two talking about? And where is this app info that you speak of?
Right click an app, then 'Get Info'...I really recommend getting XSlimmer as it automatically removes languages and PPC binaries on Intel Macs
Hmmm, twice the drive space. Does Time Machine automatically compress the data or is it configurable so that you can turn it off. Does it have the intelligence not to compress files that are already in compressed format?