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It used to be a phone. Now it's a computer in your pocket.

But... it has to fit in your pocket!

What I'd really want is for Apple to release a brand new 4" iPhone 7 mini as one of the flagship models with all the features.

I'd probably call the 4" an iPhone, the 4.7 the '+' and the 5.5" iPhablet. 4" isn't a mini, but the size it *should* be! :)

They are NOT going to a 32gb base.. at least until the Millions and Millions of you STOP making the 16GB a success. ... They make 32GB the base model,,, no-one,, no-one, will purchase any other size.

As long as they run on that logic (which is the logic they are running on), we won't see a change. And, there is little hope people are going to stop buying the 16GB models.

But, if Apple were thinking in terms of UX (user experience) again, or long-term thinking, they'd realize that they are losing far more by keeping the 16GB base than the extra they make on this quarter's balance sheet. Unfortunately, I think concern over UX was the old Apple... this is the new Apple.

My mother still uses her 8Gb iPhone 4 and 16Gb iPad 4 without any complaints about a lack of storage space.

So get over yourself. 16Gb is still fine for many, many people.

As I noted above... this isn't about whether or not people can get by with 16GB, but about the *OVERALL* user experience having a 16GB model produces and the long-term impact on the Apple brand.

In other words, Apple is being stupidly-short-sighted by starting the line-up at 16GB. It creates a negative user-experience far more costly to the brand than the extra profits they make through the up-sell.
 
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I've just upgraded to a 6S after spending 3 years on a 4. I'm finding it hard to adapt as I prefer to smaller form factor.

A 4" screen is very appealing. Will see where this goes. I disabled 3D Touch in the first couple of hours so I don't mind if this new phone doesn't have it.

It just goes to show how frivolous a feature 3d Touch is, if the most authoritative and accurate analyst predicts that the new iPhone will not have it.

As to the 4" iPhone, this is welcome news. It really should be as fast as the larger models, though.
Original joke. Never read it before on macrumors.

No?

It has been made before, I think. I could be wrong, though.

I would want 64GB or 128GB.
 
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It just goes to show how frivolous a feature 3d Touch is, if the most authoritative and accurate analyst predicts that the new iPhone will not have it.

As to the 4" iPhone, this is welcome news. It really should be as fast as the larger models, though.

Most authoritative, yet about 5% chance of happening. This rumour/article is grasping rubbish, and a lot of posts in this thread shows how people believe anything thrown at them, picking and choosing the choice bits that suit them.
 
Apple is going to release an iphone 6 mini.
But perhaps it will be powered by the a8 with 2gb, the same soc that is used in the ipad mini 4 and the new apple tv.
It will have nfc and Applepay, bluetooth 4.2, updated touchid, 1136x640 display.
I don' t know about the 3dtouch, though. But, if they want 3d touch to get impemented on all apps, including the older apps, they really should support it on all new iphones released from now on.

And because of the 7 plus rumors with more memory, they could change the names. Iphone 6s mini, iphone 7 air, iphone 7 pro. Just like the ipads.

I am more interested in the ipad air3. Will it get 3d touch, and how will it be implemented. Current ipads don' t feature a haptic/taptic engine. I am curious how they will solve this.
 
The core apps you cannot delete and need to hide in a folder. There is a bunch of em.

Every OS has them, and most refer to them as bloat ware. Newest example being the news app. No choice to install it.
Well, if you refer to core app, even if you don't use it (i don't use Stock or Wallet for instance), as bloatware, you should take a look at some Android devices ...
 
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I know Apple dislikes cluttered product lineups and I do as well, but three models for an as personal device as the iPhone really makes a lot of sense. In my opinion, 5.5" is "XL", 4.7" is "L", and then... Well, then that's all you've got. Re-introducing size Medium (or Small if you like) just makes a lot of sense in this case.

If they did this, they could move on without touching the display sizes for a LONG time to come. I can't really imagine they would then need to change them for the foreseeable future. I could before the iPhone 6, but not if they did this, which is great for developers and helps with confidence in the new lineup.
 
Believe it when I see it especially 3GB RAM on an iPhone! I presume he also predicts 3GB RAM on the iPads too then?

A lot of people would love a new 4" iPhone though so it would be about time.

I would also think they would include 3D touch in a smaller phone as it would benefit from it greatly with the small screen.
 
Apple's hovering around 4-inches.

u can easily make the screen larger in the same form factor... I agree, remove the bezel....

With 3D touch built in now-days its high time to start taking advantage of it, or at least a pressure sensitive display... Apple just not using its full intentional, but limited to only icons.

e.g use 3D touch on an empty are of the screen, or from apps to go back home, and eliminate the home button.
also from lock screen force touch to authenticate (this would replace Touch ID sensor and move it to the display (probably could become part of the display so the phone can be thinner)

eliminate bezel and u now have a larger display that does exactly the same thing we do today separately.
 
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As I noted above... this isn't about whether or not people can get by with 16GB, but about the *OVERALL* user experience having a 16GB model produces and the long-term impact on the Apple brand.

In other words, Apple is being stupidly-short-sighted by starting the line-up at 16GB. It creates a negative user-experience far more costly to the brand than the extra profits they make through the up-sell.

What I find funny is that the people who complain about Apple still selling a 16Gb phone are the ones who would never buy one in the first place.
 


Kuo believes this new 4-inch iPhone will not include 3D Touch support as part of an effort to keep it differentiated from the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus.

This whole idea of holding back a feature to keep it differentiated is so retarded. Differentiated? I kinda think the fact that it's 4 inches and not 4.7 or 5.5 is the differntiation. Oh yea, and the fact that it would be an entirely different design.
Besides, I'm pretty sure that aside from a big batch of folks on places like macrumors here, the rest of the 'real' world mostly doesn't give a damn about '3D touch'.
 
First, Kuo believes Apple still has a new 4-inch iPhone in the works that "resembles an upgraded iPhone 5s"...

We hear this same " smaller" iPhone rumor every single year. If it's not 3.5" then it's a 4". Not. Gonna. Happen. (BTW this same sentiment also applies for 3GB of ram supposedly being included in the 7+ -- lol.)

Typical! My iPhone 5 is dying so bit the bullet and ordered a 64GB 6S even though I find them too big. Buying a 5S at this point would have been silly as it's so out of date. A new 4" one would have been perfect for me. Looks like 6S til Spring, then sell and swap for this new one.

Don't be surprised if you fall in love with the 6S. After a month of using my new 6 last year, I picked up my wife's 5S and it felt like a darn child's toy in my hand. I was shocked.
 
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This whole idea of holding back a feature to keep it differentiated is so retarded. Differentiated? I kinda think the fact that it's 4 inches and not 4.7 or 5.5 is the differntiation. Oh yea, and the fact that it would be an entirely different design.
Besides, I'm pretty sure that aside from a big batch of folks on places like macrumors here, the rest of the 'real' world mostly doesn't give a damn about '3D touch'.

Apple will really be doomed, if they listen to the " people that don't give a damn about...."
Those people are the same people that want an iPhone for $200( without contract).
They have and will never try too satisfy these people.
To make a feature available on all models in 2 years is the reason the ecosystem and OS will continue to evolve. And has been evolved in the past.
By October next year, almost all iOS devices will have a minimum of 2gb(except the watch) and 3D Touch (the reg iPhone 6 and 6+ will be phased out).
The iPad Air 3 will have 3D Touch, the iPad pro 2 will have it. And perhaps they will even release an iPad mini 5 with 3D Touch.

It is the only way to ensure every app will be updated to use all features in the long run. And to ensure that every new app will support these features.
 
it'd be nice if they wouldn't penalize people who like smaller form factors by removing functionality & power.

If a user has an iPad Air 2 for a couple years, and realizes the mini would be a more convenient and useful size for them, they're going to eat hundreds dollars on depreciation getting rid of their Air 2, only to spend a load of $ on a smaller iPad that has... the same hardware as an Air 2. Result is paying loads of money for a new device, but getting last years hardware only smaller. Tough sell.

It's an interesting point.

If the larger models dissipate heat better therefore can be clocked higher than smaller ones, do Apple handicap the larger devices to match the smaller ones? I personally hope not, and they try and cram the fastest SoC that each size allows.

With things like 3D Touch and RAM amount I hope they standardise that across the board.
 
They should stick with the colourful plastic design IMO. I see lots of people using the 5c. It's easy to hold without needing a case, it's colourful and it would make a perfect entry level iPhone. Moving to a metal body makes no sense to me unless they're going to replicate the current iPhone 6s design so as to have one unified design theme across all their iPhone models.
 
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