Apple Preparing Fix for Glitch Causing Lightning EarPods Remote to Stop Working

Abazigal said:
HTML5 started out being inferior to flash as well. It took an ultimatum by Apple for HTML5 developers to really step up and improve their offerings.

And the replacement for the audio jack isn't Lightning but Bluetooth. That's what the Airpods represent. The missing link tying your Apple Watch and iPhone together, and a wired headphone has no place in this ecosystem at all (it's not like I can plug a pair of wired headphones into my Apple Watch).

The improvement Apple is seeking here is in terms of connectivity, not necessarily sound quality. The people claiming that the audio jack offers better sound quality aren't wrong. It's just irrelevant as far as Apple is concerned.
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Alright... I can respect that.
 
HEK said:
All the jack removal whiners better get grip cuz where this is all heading is the complete removal of all ports and jacks. A totally sealed iPhone is coming. No 3.5 audio jack, no lightening jack, no charging port, all sealed with only two physical buttons left. Totally waterproof and all input/output by radio (Bluetooth, wifi, other).

That's what the courage comment was all about. Courage for Apple to endure the minority of vocal whiners as they push us into next generation of iPhones. I still remember all the whining about no keyboard on the first iPhone.

Wide area charging and no physical hookups at all. Coupled with next generation of nano LI Iron battery technology with 10 fold energy density and super fast charging. Along with quantum dot OLED screen technology.
You heard it here first.
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What?

Companies are starting to remove the physical buttons as well:

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...artphone-china-comes-no-physical-buttons.html

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Soni Sanjay said:
Excuse me, I didn't fall for anything. I know there were going to be issues. There was no need to remove the headphone jack.
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Apple clearly felt differently as they have time again despite all the complaints people regardless of the company they back end up embracing the change regardless of weather or not its needed. Get over it or vote with your wallet and quit crying.
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Abazigal said:
HTML5 started out being inferior to flash as well. It took an ultimatum by Apple for HTML5 developers to really step up and improve their offerings.

And the replacement for the audio jack isn't Lightning but Bluetooth. That's what the Airpods represent. The missing link tying your Apple Watch and iPhone together, and a wired headphone has no place in this ecosystem at all (it's not like I can plug a pair of wired headphones into my Apple Watch).

The improvement Apple is seeking here is in terms of connectivity, not necessarily sound quality. The people claiming that the audio jack offers better sound quality aren't wrong. It's just irrelevant as far as Apple is concerned.
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Please tell these people.
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smacrumon said:
These companies are rushing products to market, and effectively what Apple is delivering is beta versions of devices and software that is fixed and patched along the way. And if first reactions to iPhone 7 is a guide, it is getting worse over the years. How can fans get pumped about iPhone? With the price point Apple occupies, there's real opportunity for a new entrant to take up the space with actually refined and new fresh hardware and software.
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TBQH Every iPhone release has some glitches and issues. This has never not been there case. You're just rewriting history.
 
jwdsail said:
The headphones, listening and controlling content, is one of the basic functions of the iPhone. Part of that "It's all one thing" speech. You know, something that "just worked" in the v.1.0 of the iPhone w/o a f'in glitch?

Sigh.

I've been an Apple/Mac user, likely longer than you've been alive, and often wished I had Guy Kawasaki's job. I'm about as far from an Apple hatter/troll as you'll find here, and I'm sorry, but this is just f'in BS. If you want to contort yourself into a pretzel making up BS excuses for incompetency, be my guest! Just don't expect anyone w/ an IQ over 40 to agree with you.
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Apple isn't interested in how long you've been a user of their products. They are interested in pushing the experience forward regardless of the whining and howling from people who are stuck in the past. Those people just get left behind. Apple is in the business of innovation. The headphone jack is blocking their vision so it has to go.
 
tentales said:
FWIW, the headphone jack should've remained for now until there was a viable, technically superior solution. Proprietary connectors, dongles (really?) and higher priced wireless headphones are not the way to entice buyers going forward.
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For me wireless technology is technically superior. It doesn't have annoying wires. A lot of people are measuring the "superiority" of the 3.5mm jack based only the measures that they think are important. A lot of them are ignoring the one measure that wired headphones can not beat wireless headphones - that measure being not having wires.

RedWing512 said:
Or, they could get over their stupid obsession of making their crap thinner. Then they wouldn't have to worry about "lack of space" and they could have used the same jack.
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Is that the iPhone 7 isn't any thinner than the iPhone 6/6S important to your rant. The removal of the jack has not made the iPhone any thinner. It has provided the iPhone 7 with a level of water resistance that it hasnt had before.

Apple see the path to higher revenues as including the sale of more expensive wireless headphones. This change forces that path. Personally I have no issue with that as I haven't been using wired headphones since around 2006.
 
AdonisSMU said:
Apple isn't interested in how long you've been a user of their products. They are interested in pushing the experience forward regardless of the whining and howling from people who are stuck in the past. Those people just get left behind. Apple is in the business of innovation. The headphone jack is blocking their vision so it has to go.
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"It just works" wasn't a good enough vision? :rolleyes:
 
bjet767 said:
It's not a total failure and Apple is not in total fail mode. If you have done any amount of development you'd know something as complex as the iPhone and iOS will have bugs and they can't be found until a very large number of users get a hold of the product.

Yes the old headphones work well and the wireless won't plug into an old car sound system with an aux-in port.

Two years from now we'll wonder how we lived with a wire around our necks.
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Consider how stupid it was to ship with a known bug related to the big change of removing the 3.5mm jack - doesn't really increase confidence in them when they can't get the most important things right when it matters the most, does it??? You're really reaching far up a very dark hole to pull out your rationalization.

I've been a professional software developer for 30 years, and started my career in an organization that obtained ISO software quality certification, so I know all products ship with bugs.

And yes, I'm bashing Apple's software quality because it is going downhill fast. I've worked on shipping professional products in their ecosystem since the early days of OS X (including kernel drivers), and have written many bug reports on issues I've found in their software. The stupidity of breakage they're shipping with now would have never happened years ago. The most frustrating part is how their declining quality is hurting their external partners, and they don't seem to care. I've seen crash bugs that I reported on early iOS 9 betas just ignored. Their behavior is ultimately just hurting them, but it is sad to watch.

So why don't you ask Apple to just publish all the bugs we write against their software, and run quality metrics on the data to see how bad it's become over the last few years? Such bug data analysis is very common for mature software companies.

I would welcome such an open system and even agree to be publicly identifiable on the bugs I've opened during the last 15 years. But Apple will never agree to such visibility. If their quality is so great, what do they have to hide? They're just spewing drivel at this point.
 
moeafg said:
Whoever is doing software testing at Apple is pretty rubbish. Tim Cook if you are reading this, hire me and I will teach you the ways of the software test.
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Actually It's hardware testing. So your skillset is irrelevant. Sorry
 
truthertech said:
Dock, Belkin type adapter, etc
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Yup, perfectly reasonable to require an additional $50 - $160 purchase to allow your new $700 iPhone 7 to walk and chew gum (listen and charge) at the same time, when a $0.10 part that Apple removed, due to "courage", made it possible in the past... Right?

So, "It just works, but you'll need a dongle or dock"?

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Abazigal said:
I have never seen the CD as a direct replacement for the floppy disk. They both had very different use cases. I am not going to burn a presentation to a CD and pass it around, for one. USB would only come later.

The removal of the headphone jack will usher in a new generation of Bluetooth headphones and help spur their adoption. If you look at what Apple has done with the airpods, it's clearly Gen1 of a new wave of wearables designed to bring Siri to your ears (and subsequently other sensors and trackers).

Either way - my stance is this. What's done is done. The headphone jack is gone from the iPhone and it is never coming back, however much people whine. The people who think Apple is doing this simply to sell more headphones and adaptors for a quick buck clearly don't know Apple, what Apple stands for, nor do they understand how Apple does business.

You can either continue to complain and hold out for as long as you can, switch to a competing platform, or you can embrace the future as prophesied by Apple. It will make no difference either way.
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"Embrace the future as prophesied by Apple"...and people wonder why Apple fans are called cultists and zealots.

Apple owns Beats and if you, or anyone thinks removing he headphone jack wasn't done to increase profit though Beats headphone sales you're either completely clueless or drunk off the Apple Kool-Aid.
 
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truthertech said:
Dock, Belkin type adapter, etc
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Only the most rabid Apple Pom-Pom waving cheerleaders would think dongles, docks, or adapters is anything other than a complete fail.
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Icaras said:
Of course you have choice. Apple isn't the only brand making smart phones. So go to your favorite local or online electronics retailer and knock yourself out on the power of choice.

It's that simple folks.
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And watch hundreds or thousands of dollars invested in ITunes content vanish.
 
Gregintosh said:
The remote stops working on my 6S Plus sometimes. I always thought it was my Bose headphones acting up but maybe it's the same bug. The remote works 90% of the time but the other 10% the volume or on off controls don't work and music keeps playing even if I unplug the headphones.
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Wait... so this bug has been around for a while but now is paraded at the earbuds-gate of 2016 for apple? I'm so surprised... not really.

... stay classy, my friends.
 
developer13245 said:
to ship with a known bug related to the big change of removing the 3.5mm jack - doesn't really increase confidence in them when they can't get the most important things right when it matters the most, does it??? You're really reaching far up a very dark hole to pull out your rationalization.
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Where did you see or hear they shipped with a known bug, the ear bud isssue? If I missed that in the article then shame on me (of course they ship with both known and unknown bugs, name one corp which doesn't; its marketing and the need to sell product verses the engineer often times).

I'm glad you're so good at what you do and know that if you had a say this kind of stuff wouldn't happen. But sadly Boeing, Airbus and all those fully computerized transportation machines we put our lives in are full of bugs and work-arounds. You'd think they Boeing could get it right when they release their airplanes to the public.

Hmmm maybe you could fix their issues too.

Back to my original post, the complexity of an iPhone, iOS and the vendors who produce the software is pretty amazing and I'd bet a bit over all our heads. In the end they, Apple, produce some really good products which have and will continue to mold how we communicate, socialize and spend our time.
 
bjet767 said:
Where did you see or hear they shipped with a known bug, the ear bud isssue? If I missed that in the article then shame on me (of course they ship with both known and unknown bugs, name one corp which doesn't; its marketing and the need to sell product verses the engineer often times).

I'm glad you're so good at what you do and know that if you had a say this kind of stuff wouldn't happen. But sadly Boeing, Airbus and all those fully computerized transportation machines we put our lives in are full of bugs and work-arounds. You'd think they Boeing could get it right when they release their airplanes to the public.

Hmmm maybe you could fix their issues too.

Back to my original post, the complexity of an iPhone, iOS and the vendors who produce the software is pretty amazing and I'd bet a bit over all our heads. In the end they, Apple, produce some really good products which have and will continue to mold how we communicate, socialize and spend our time.
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The complexity of iOS may be over your head, but not mine, so speak for yourself.
 
Developer dude

So you can go through the huge list of c or c++ code that makes up the kernel of iOS and find the bug which is effecting the hardware of the lightning port? Man your ego is really big.

Maybe you should be working on the Hackintosh kernels for the Intel based boards so we can avoid buying the Apple hardware completely.

Let me ask one simple question, can you explain to us how Apple decided to do graphics and animation in iOS, you know that layering thing or maybe even a bit lower level where we get into raw calls to the processor?

Ego.
 
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