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Apple Preparing Fix for Glitch Causing Lightning EarPods Remote to Stop Working

macintoshmac said:
But, really. That change of port means that I cannot plug my iPhone to a battery and listen to my music while I am in bed in the night. And that change is indeed a significant one for me. Now, if I want to continue with an iPhone, I will have to get in bed with a charged up phone if I want to listen to radio or my music. I love the new iteration of the phone, but this is a drawback, period.

Versatility is compromised. That jack was a serious convenience in the smallest and subtlest but important of ways. I can take care of water resistance. I acknowledge the weather and don't try to fight it saying oh rain or torrent, I will have my free right to use my phone! I just keep it hidden in the bag if I have to be in the rain. But missing that convenience every night, not fair.
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It's like they don't use the phone. I mean it's not like the iPhone has a long lasting battery anyway, everybody knows that!

The fact that iPhone batteries are so short means that you're going to be charging while using a headphone jack constantly.

How do they miss this?
 
gkarris said:
What?

Companies are starting to remove the physical buttons as well:

http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...artphone-china-comes-no-physical-buttons.html

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See a major issue with no physical buttons at all. That is reason I say two buttons need to remain physical.

With no buttons at all, everything is going through software. How do you shut down and reboot the phone without a physical button. Do you remove the battery? How is that sealed and kept waterproof?

See, I have never owned or used a device that has never frozen up. That all the software code was written flawlessly for all circumstances and conditions. Not my phones, not my computers, not my GPS unit, not my iPod, not my iPad, not my cable tv box, not my wifi, not my modem, nothing.

At some point I have had to reboot every device that has frozen. If a device is frozen, software locked up, the touch sensitive screen is also frozen. That is why you need to have a physical way to turn a device off and on, and do a hard reboot.
 
Ciclismo said:
Really? I've had issues with a myriad of devices in the past, such as sound suddenly only being on one side (had to remove and reinsert jack a couple of times), audio not coming through speakers when headphone jack removed, or vice versa, or even sound still coming through the speakers whilst also coming through the headphones.


Don't act like the headphone jack is an infallible technology, it isn't.
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Sound suddenly only being on one side is caused the cheap cable on your $3 set of airplane headphones. It has nothing to do with the jack, and quality headphones don't suffer from this problem.
 
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HEK said:
See a major issue with no physical buttons at all. That is reason I say two buttons need to remain physical.

With no buttons at all, everything is going through software. How do you shut down and reboot the phone without a physical button. Do you remove the battery? How is that sealed and kept waterproof?

See, I have never owned or used a device that has never frozen up. That all the software code was written flawlessly for all circumstances and conditions. Not my phones, not my computers, not my GPS unit, not my iPod, not my iPad, not my cable tv box, not my wifi, not my modem, nothing.

At some point I have had to reboot every device that has frozen. If a device is frozen, software locked up, the touch sensitive screen is also frozen. That is why you need to have a physical way to turn a device off and on, and do a hard reboot.
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The new iphone has a touch sensor... Pretty sure its still a physical thing.
 
Totti said:
Cue the bashing...
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I'ts not bashing, why so negative *giggles*.

"I told you so" isn't bashing. It's just what it is. Why fiddle with something that has been working and working so well for so long? Why mess around? Just for the sake of a thinner device that's water proof? Why cater to people who don't learn, keep your phones away from water period, protect these boutique gadgets, if you don't care, then just get a new one every time you mess up, otherwise, take better care of your over priced tech stuff for crying out loud. The industry creates problems by trying to cater to the clumsy consumers.

They just bully us around and force us to comply to their supply, they create a demand from thin air and everyone goes crazy for it. That's just ignorant :D

I LOVE You all... Take good care of each other :D
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mr.steevo said:
I had to take my 6S just last week because it was doing this exact thing. Was getting sound but no controls.

Amazing what pocket lint does to a 3.5mm port.
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I am still using my iPhone 4S it's still really snappy and in pristine working order... The problem isn't lint nor the device. Just saying.
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JustMartin said:
Not really, I remember twisting a jack round to find the sweet spot because the wires in the plug had broken again. I remember spending a small fortune on headsets because of cable problems.
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Common sense on how to care for our tech stuff really goes a long way in it's life time. I've had the same set of headphones since 1997. I just take really good care of them.
 
greytmom said:
Happens on my Klipsch from time to time. Usually if I unplug and replug once or twice, it kicks back in.
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My RF-82 are working fine. Might be because they're connected with 4x4mm² cables to my amp, no lightning involved.

But then again, as I bought them some 10 years ago, they are of course obsolete and should be replaced with an all-digital solution. /s
 
this is happening on my sennheisers connected through the adapter....wonder if its the same bug.
 
If you have the "courage" to remove the jack (wich I agree was the right thing to do) at least make sure that what replaces it works!
 
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penajmz said:
Get over it or don't get an iPhone 7.
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Sorry, I can't hear you over my not working lightning ear phones.
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jwdsail said:
But .. I thought digital was... better?

Sometimes, an old standard continues to be used, not just because of inertia, or lack of "courage" (barf) but because it really is the best solution for the task at hand.

Not often, but it does indeed happen, from time to time...


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The lightning headphones which come with the iPhone 7 are still analogue and not digital.
 
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moeafg said:
Whoever is doing software testing at Apple is pretty rubbish. Tim Cook if you are reading this, hire me and I will teach you the ways of the software test.
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I agree...this applies to many Apple Applications...I lost my ethernet use on my Mac mini after a change in the OS and the new OS ignores it in favor of changes of no consequence.....anything wireless is problematic....this is solution in search of a problem...wireless ear buds.
 
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developer13245 said:
Yup, given access to the source code I can fix the bug - I work on that type of software every day (mainly audio DSP now). My vast expertise includes a very particular set of skills...
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Given your vast amount of experience and skill set you might appreciate the complexity of these devices and the know the re never is a bug free product ever. Just combine more than a couple of teams and the odds go up exponentially there will be something which gets missed.

There are teams of designers, hardware specialist, manufacturers, material experts, software designers who use development products which have bugs themselves, and many more who directly touch the product or have some input it it. So the complexity isn't just the codes it's the whole process, of which you should be aware of.

You probably could find the bug given the code, a knowledge the bug exists, which there's no indication they knew it did, and the time to do it. But, to say they, Apple, are failing is just pure hyperbole and ego.

Get Xcode and start writing iOS apps for consumers and see if you can get us a bug free product, at least one which you thought was bug free.

On final question, did you work for Bell Labs in the day? You're starting to sound like someone I know.
 
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elcrian said:
My RF-82 are working fine. Might be because they're connected with 4x4mm² cables to my amp, no lightning involved.

But then again, as I bought them some 10 years ago, they are of course obsolete and should be replaced with an all-digital solution. /s
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Mine are connected through the headphone jack.

I don't care either way - lose jack, keep it, I'll adjust.
 
michaelsviews said:
Seems apples quality control is lacking in so many ways, but the space ship "Steves dream" is progressing

iPhone 8 10th year anniversary that will / should be allot better.
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"should" being the operative word.

Lately Apple's product releases have been less than underwhelming. Many of "us" are hanging on for something to really cheer about. Were it not for the eco system stickiness and lack of visionary alternatives, we'd jump ship long ago.
Alas, we're in the Jobs-less era again. Rhymes on a theme is all the iPhone 7 is.

I'm reminded of the famous 1984 Mac commercial, with the grey faceless crowd following the Orwellian overlord on the big screen. Back then, it was the IBM/MS sheeple, now it's Apples turn to be subverted by a new disruptor.
http://theconversation.com/from-disrupter-to-disrupted-apple-could-be-next-59525
 
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