Phew! I thought it was me going mad!
Good thing I had Disk Warrior on hand to do the job then (although it did take bloody ages on Leopard)
Disk Warrior is NOT Leopard-ready!
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Disk Warrior is NOT Leopard-ready!
Except that it does - at least it does when I test it on my machines. It takes a while to get started, but it does work.
Agreed - I have Leopard currently running in a dual boot setup having used migration assistant to copy all data from the Tiger volume so I can properly soak test Leopard to see if it is plausible as my primary OS. Have my music workstation crippled because some of my audio hardware hasn't had drivers written for it yet, or ebcause some bug in the new OS doesn't play nicely with Logic or Ableton? I think not.
Anybody with half an ounce of sense (and a critical production machine) sticks to the old adage: if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
Perhaps not, but it repaired the permissions which is what was required of it at the time.
i've used every mac system since os6 and cant remember a worse f--up than LEOPARD is.
bugs galore, stacks
Sounds like hardware or driver issues, depending on the Mac.
On my Macbook Pro, I'm extremely pleased. When Tiger came out, there were tons of bugs and issues that didn't get resolved until about 10.4.3 (I filled two pages of bug reports at Apple.com), but I have practically no complaints about Leopard yet. I am very impressed with most new features (Stacks excepted), and everything is faster and more responsive.
Oh, there was one problem with some system fonts getting un-installed during the upgrade, but I managed to fix that easily enough.
I'm having this problem too. But it's only on my iMac, the PowerBook (with it's weaker reception) works fine and dandy.
FrontRow can't see any other Mac on my network. Despite showing up on the Finder (unless it's not supposed to do this and Sources is just a pointless menu).
Indexing took a LONG time. I'm talking days. The HDD health is perfect, it's just that one partition was doing a Timemachine backup and the other was being indexed. It did not like that.
Custom folder icons aren't loading up in Finder in Coverflow.
Workgroup keeps resetting.
Think that's it for now...
In the PC world - that would be an acceptable situation. Not with a Mac. We're all paying a very heavy premium on hardware ( 50% typically ) to get that level of integration of hardware and OS for the explicit purpose of avoiding such issues.
Leopard has issues - the networking is broken, Safari is still a nasty beta product. Until leopard, my MB had NEVER crashed. Now, it's done it several times in the past few days.
10.5.1 is needed VERY VERY quickly, before the increasingly good reputation momentum is lost entirely.
Doug
I like the new behaviour, I think it makes more sense for the vast majority of customers. If you want to change the extension, select it, or hit command A to select all. It's a huge timesaver for me, not having to manually select everything but the extension.
What has already been released?
i've used every mac system since os6 and cant remember a worse f--up than LEOPARD is.
That's funny, I've been using mac that long, and for me Leopard has been the most solid OS update apple has ever released. If it's really that bad on your system, maybe you just need to install it again?
How is using "move" a stupid mistake? Move should move a file. It shouldn't delete the original if the move fails and lose data. If this is true, it's a serious problem and needs to be fixed ASAP. And seriously, you're calling someone an idiot for moving a file? Get your head out of your ass.
And it didn't work right for him. If move is destructive without doing the copy, it's not working right at all. Or are you saying that we shouldn't ever trust the OS to work properly?
With Mac OS X Leopard a little over a week old, Apple has already begun making preparations for seeding the next revision of Mac OS X (10.5.1) to testers.
Don't be an idiot. 10.5.0 is already weeks old. Remember that whole discussion here about how Apple would need to have a GM ready for pressing in early October if they were going to actually ship CDs in late October? Well, that means a month has gone by since that version was frozen.
Despite what they say, I had a case recently where something was consistently not working, and repairing permissions was the thing that ended up fixing it. I've never worried about permissions much before, but in this case it definitely was a fix. It probably doesn't make a difference very often, but in an extreme case (this machine hadn't had permissions repaired and it had to fix probably hundreds of them) it turns out to matter.
I am on the same boat
No serious issues really, but for some reason little problems seem to come and go with Bluetooth, external disks, system preferences, airport, etc.
No serious issues really, but for some reason little problems seem to come and go with Bluetooth, external disks, system preferences, airport, etc.
Very few issues with my upgrade. Airdisk for Time Machine is a necessity.
One little bug I see occasionally is the Spotlight drop down being partially hidden behind the pull down menu. It comes and goes.
One little bug I see occasionally is the Spotlight drop down being partially hidden behind the pull down menu. It comes and goes.
Well I DID revert back to Tiger, although am dual-booting w/Leopard to continue testing. Leopard is just too buggy right now to use dependably in a work environment. The HP printing issues, wireless and backup issues, regular crashing using iPhoto...this is ridiculous.
Odd, I have not had any problems printing from my HP Color LasorJet 2600n. Nor have I had any problems with the my wireless connection either... I noticed a few graphical glitches but nothing to big.
** One thing I would hope that is fixed in 10.5.1 is the Bootcamp issue when installing Windows...Stupid Disk and hal.dll errors...
I'll put in my weirdest bug. My PB got stuck in Expose, but each program and window remained active, so I could go forward and back in Safari or put in a new URL, or even do a Spotlight search in Finder.
As far as bugs go, I kinda liked that one.
As far as bugs go, I kinda liked that one.
Yeah I do want to stress that while I'm having serious airport issues on my macbook with Leopard, everything else is actually fine and dandy outside of the disk utility taking really really long to work(but it does work!).
I know other people have more issues with Leopard(and others less), most of the serious bugs seem to be hardware related with the non-hardware related ones being annoying quirks and/or security issues.
It's still way less buggy than Vista was on release though lol. But as mac users we tend to expect more out of apple, thus, compared to other apple releases, this is one of the worst ones(although there are others way worse than this by far).
I know other people have more issues with Leopard(and others less), most of the serious bugs seem to be hardware related with the non-hardware related ones being annoying quirks and/or security issues.
It's still way less buggy than Vista was on release though lol. But as mac users we tend to expect more out of apple, thus, compared to other apple releases, this is one of the worst ones(although there are others way worse than this by far).
The one thing I have learned from 20 years of computers, never trust them. computers are designed by humans, software written by humans - expect stupid bone head coding mistakes.
A strange thing, its a few seconds slower when booting up on my Macbook (Black, 2.16Ghz, 2gigs of memory), the disk utility when doing 'permissions repair is slow, hopefully 10.5.1 will improve 'teh snappy'
Regarding the firewall; I think this says it best: "Don't believe the hype, don't, don't, don't believe the hype".
The firewall and the articles - all ********. Considering that the firewall was never enabled by default in the first place, I don't know what people are moaning about. For me, I sit behind a firewall, those services exposed to the internet sit in a sandbox. Its all fear mongering. If I believed every thing being said, I wouldn't be touching a computer or have it connected to the internet.
What happens when you try to repair? my experience is that the whirly bar goes for quite some time, then it suddenly shows progress; give that a go, allow it to keep going, it'll eventually move forward.
i've used every mac system since os6 and cant remember a worse f--up than LEOPARD is.
bugs galore, stacks
except for my daughters mac i am back in 10.4. thats never happened for me but never has a mac os been this horrible
i am scared thatin 10.5.1 wont fix stacks and put the menu back in it so it works in a usable way. it is a joke now and sucks suck sucks. Im all good with change but only change for the better. stacks is not better and is a nightmare
what was
I don't know about that I remember every new version of OS X having a bunch of small annoying problems. Problems that they fixed in the old version appearing again. New features that work kinda hokie. By the time 10.x.5 is released things really get fairly stable and the problems are more minute. Yes I had some issues with leopord my install processes was not smooth But overall it is an improvement over Tiger there are only some small glitches, and a couple of big ones that are usually easilly fixed.
Then obviously your friend is an idiot if he thinks that Windows Vista is any better; can't wait till he screams and whines. 10.5.1 is around the corner; everyone knows 'never expect perfection from a x.0 product' - that rule goes for all brands and all products.
What on earth is he doing? I've looked at porn, checked out youtube and a variety of other sites - not a single problem; what on earth is he doing to f*ck something up so completely? he sounds like a walking disaster.
So you're saying to me that we have this A-grade idiot who has moved from MacOS X to Windows Vista and claiming it to be 'just works'; sorry, he has some major issues then or majorly deluded, or simply a made up scenario to explain the issues you're having.
should have learned their lesson by now. i have downgraded all 3 of my macs to tiger for mostly this reason alone. just about every one @ work has done that too. so many of us HATE the stack crap its not even funny any more it is like a joke. seriously people theres no way could have done much usability testing with real people and gotten positive feedback about it from any one who uses macs lots. like people've said the betas worked better and more features were in with stacks then and that was not long before the release. by the time the public got their copies that wouldnt have given much time if any to test those secretive ideas on real people and had time to change it if they even care or are willing to suck it up and recognize the GIGANTIC BLUNDER with these stupid things called stacks that you cant right click on and go more than a folder deep to get what you needno fix to stacks. no upgrade for me which means i cant buy new programs 4 mac leopard by companies that sell them which means hopefully that there will be some type of backlash to
@ some point and maybe theyll change their mind and do something useful