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.... The only rational CPU chips for a Mac Pro upgrade only came out earlier this week, so what would you have expected Apple to upgrade a Mac Pro with otherwise. Dave

No. After 6/8 months of the original release date Apple could have bumped the entire line up. It would have made everyone interested in buying the Pro happy. It would have felt more like a contemporary machine, better value. Like Apple was actually interested in it's customers. That alone would have caused a surge of new buyers....

The Quad 2.66 becomes the Quad 2.93 etc. If that was the model we'd be looking at a Quad 3.33 any day now. If that was the case and there were no more price hikes to give the Americans a reduction I'd be delighted with Apple instead of wondering what the hell are they playing at. Surely no one outside the States are buying these tired old expensive things? In the Sates they are much cheaper and so it's easier to buy one than here where the price makes it a serious purchase; where everything has to be in place and paying top dollar for ancient tech isn't it.
 
Too Late

Too Late Apple:rolleyes:, I've waited for what seems years for you to upgrade your monitors. I've bought instead two Dell U2410's for £400 each. Nice matt screen, usual card readers, makes me a very happy bunny.:)
 
Mac's a fast enough as they are seriously there isn't much difference from a mac with 2gb to a mac with 4gb to a mac with 8gb of ram..

I like my computers to look awesome of my desk, with my iphones and ipods :D

Wrong. If you used memory depended applications you would realise how wrong your statement is. You are much better off getting 4gb of ram then a CPU bump when buying a mac.
 
I guess that means a Ford Focus is a better car than a Ferrari because it has more seats, right?
Yes it is, if you have 3 passengers and some luggage to transport in relative comfort. In the same way if you need additional connectors to utilise other existing equipment, it's an issue.
 
Wirelessly posted (SAMSUNG-SGH-A821/1.0 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.4 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.0 configuration/CLDC-1.1)

Can the current MBPs manage a hi-res screen and their built in display at the same time. I'm thinking new MBPs before or at the same time as the 27' launch
 
All I've seen is wishful thinking and unreasonable expectations.

A number of posts have addressed exactly that, not sure if you missed them or ignored them.

No they haven't. No one has come close to addressing how they expect Apple to produce a new Mac Pro revision with out a suitable CPU. Until that is done you all look pretty silly.

If this was a discussion was about the Mac Books and Mac Book Pros we would have a totally different point of view. Apple is actually a bit behind here. Even so we can hope that the delay here is for more interesting hardware.


Dave
 
Mac's a fast enough as they are seriously there isn't much difference from a mac with 2gb to a mac with 4gb to a mac with 8gb of ram..

I like my computers to look awesome of my desk, with my iphones and ipods :D

Is there a reason why my quote was deleted? How odd.

Wrong. If you used memory depended applications you would realise how wrong your statement is. You are much better off getting 4gb of ram then a CPU bump when buying a mac.

Agreed. Very wrong. Especially once you start using pro applications.
 
Which means Apple HAS to drop the price on the 24" as it sells currently for $899.

Plus, does this mean Apple will go back and update the 24" as well to be 16x9?

After checking with my crystal ball, it says they will omit the 20", keep the 24", add the 27"....but wait! There's more. It also said that apple will revamp their 30", wait a minute....it is also saying apple will possibly add a 35" screen with a 120ppi display

/sarcasm

My dual (crystal) balls sense that they'll drop the 24" and 30" altogether if releasing a 27". With built in stereoscopic iTunes capability and built-in iPad.
 
Question to anyone who owns one of these new LED Cinema Displays:
They come with 3 cables, one MagSafe, one USB for the mic, speakers and webcam, and one MiniDisplayPort for the display. The Mac Pro doesn't have a MagSafe connector, so does the 3rd cable just hang there all the time, or can you actually remove it?
 
If Apple want to make a big splash with a display they should just make a crazy big one, say 42" and be done with it. That would be good for bragging rights for a year or two. :)
 
I hope that the new 27" monitor will have decent connections. Currently the 24" ACD and 27"imac are the real bag of hurt when it comes to connectivity.

The current mini Displayport only connectivity is a joke, I am very disappointed with Apple/Ati, the new 5xxx series GPUs support display port though they do not work with the 24" ACD or 27" imac in display mode. I am ll for apple using new tech, but when that tech frankly cannot connect to anything, it very very very poor when it comes to user experience.
 
Question to anyone who owns one of these new LED Cinema Displays:
They come with 3 cables, one MagSafe, one USB for the mic, speakers and webcam, and one MiniDisplayPort for the display. The Mac Pro doesn't have a MagSafe connector, so does the 3rd cable just hang there all the time, or can you actually remove it?

Just hangs.

Its one cable that spits into 3
 
i have to say: i've got the 27" imac .. and that screen is unlike anything i've EVER seen before. This screen consumes you. Just awesome sharp and the colors are perfect.
I'm sitting here in front of my dual 24" office setup - and i have to say this system feels like a piece of garbage.
So gonna buy that 27" led
 
Hey I've never been to France.

No. After 6/8 months of the original release date Apple could have bumped the entire line up. It would have made everyone interested in buying the Pro happy.
I don't think the Mac Pro has ever been on a six month update cycle. Further the machine doesn't or didn't have the market presence to justify such update cycles. Apple is doing much better with hardware sales overall so maybe in the future Apple will be able to justify faster update cycles.

The thing is smart users of Apple hardware buy when a new rev comes out. That is when the price is generally such that you get good value. If the value equation doesn't look good six months latter who's fault is that. You can't blame Apple if the economics of the platform only justifies updates about once a year.
It would have felt more like a contemporary machine, better value. Like Apple was actually interested in it's customers. That alone would have caused a surge of new buyers....
Even today the Mac Pro is a good value. If you want a platform that refreshes quickly get an iMac.

As to sales, right now Apple doesn't seem to have problems. I don't know what is happening with the Mac Pro specifically I don't have numbers at the moment but I don't think there are any concerns at the moment. For the vast majority of Apples customers the exact configuration doesn't matter much.

Look at it this way, Apples laptops are in need of an update to a far greater extent that the Mac Pro line yet Apple is selling more than ever. That is in part because the Laptops are still very good values. It isn't all about the CPU for most users.
The Quad 2.66 becomes the Quad 2.93 etc. If that was the model we'd be looking at a Quad 3.33 any day now. If that was the case and there were no more price hikes to give the Americans a reduction I'd be delighted with Apple instead of wondering what the hell are they playing at.
I think I'm missing something here. It sounds like you are saying Apple raises the price on exported hardware to make things cheaper in the US. If so that is possibly the wildest thing I've heard in years.
Surely no one outside the States are buying these tired old expensive things?
They are likely being purchased wherever they are needed. Pretty much the same as in the US. For most people the Mac Pros are tools that are purchased as or when needed.
In the Sates they are much cheaper and so it's easier to buy one than here where the price makes it a serious purchase; where everything has to be in place and paying top dollar for ancient tech isn't it.
The Mac Pros are not exactly cheap here either. They go for about three times the cost of a Mini.

If you are really concerned about the cost of computer hardware in France take the issue to the politicians. Not that you will get much support from socialist leadership you have now. France and the EU have been playing dirty with American companies for a long while now. Just so your local firms can do a half ass job and get away with it. So really if you have concerns about high prices in France or the EU don't blame Apple, Cisco, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle or anybody else because it isn't their fault.

Dave
 
My microwave computes how long to stay on for some items, yet that doesn't make IT a computer anymore than it does the iPhone/iPod.

Ditto my toaster.


Bonehead statement number two. Your microwave and toaster are, in fact computers. If it were left up to narrow minded thinkers such as yourself, we would all still be using stone tools. Please try, if you're capable to expand your vision. Your refrigerator, alarm clock, and many other systems in your house are computers. And the simpleton thinking that something has to look like a box sitting on the floor, with cables running to an LCD/LED (CRT?) monitor, or be a hinged piece of plastic or metal with a keyboard on it in order to be a computer just goes to illustrate how little you "get it."

My iPhone is a computer. So is my Blackberry.
 
No need for a glossy Apple monitor... Dell monitors are pretty good. Pulled the trigger on a Dell U2711 (27" - 2560x1440 - matte). Excellent screen.
 
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