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Has anyone checked out the Dell u2711???
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&sku=224-8284&redirect=1

Any thoughts???? I do photo editing so the RGB stuff is really interesting to me...

This is the panel that I am going to grab if there is no 27" ACD, or if it's just too glossy for my tastes. Judging by the price, even the Apple one would be around that price range.

So why not make a 32" with the new technology???

You can't just randomly throw numbers out there like that. There's no higher than 30" panel with what the tech world has to offer. Besides, you are getting a resolution on par with the 30" and tech that bests it in every other way with the 27"
 
The 27" panel? Maybe to you. :rolleyes:
No, to everyone. The only place the iMac falls short compared to the 30" ACD is gamut, and that's because the iMac has a more price-conscious backlight. The new 27" LG panel is technologically superior in every way to the 5 year-old 30" LG panel in the "current" ACD.
 
No, to everyone. The only place the iMac falls short compared to the 30" ACD is gamut, and that's because the iMac has a more price-conscious backlight. The new 27" LG panel is technologically superior in every way to the 5 year-old 30" LG panel in the "current" ACD.

Maybe on paper, but to the eyes? Not mine, and many others. There is just not that much of a noticeable difference as to be so "superior". That said, I'll take that tech in a 30" model, but at the same time, I'm not trading my 3007 for this 27" version.
 
Maybe on paper, but to the eyes? Not mine, and many others. There is just not that much of a noticeable difference as to be so "superior".
And where have you seen, in person, a properly packaged and backlit version of this 27" panel to make that statement?

If you've seen the LG 30" (you apparently have one) and a 27" iMac, the difference in brightness and improved contrast are unmistakable, but neither the iMac nor the 3007 is backlit for professional use. There is therefore no way to compare actual output color, unless and until Apple actually makes a 27" Cinema Display. That said, the new generation LG panels offer greater potential range than the old panels used in the ACD and the 3007, so all else being equal, it will be superior.
I'm not trading my 3007 for this 27" version.
I don't believe anyone is suggesting that you should.
 
im finding it amusing how part of Apple's reason to switch to intel was to stay competitive with the marketplace, yet looking at the buyer's guides, since switching to intel, the time between product updates has almost doubled on average for the "Pro" models.
 
If it's anything like the 24" display: average quality in a cute housing at a premium price.

Apple should go back to deliver premium quality that can be used by professional users.

Not really keen on getting a NEC wide gamut display. I like the Apple styling. I just want something that keeps up to NEC and Eizo quality levels.
 
And where have you seen, in person, a properly packaged and backlit version of this 27" panel to make that statement?

Saw the new Dell 27". Didn't seem much different in visuals than my 3007 except obviously smaller. Who knows . . . I have my eye on the NEC 30 later this year.
 
Saw the new Dell 27". Didn't seem much different in visuals than my 3007 except obviously smaller.
You can't compare monitors by memory and outside a controlled environment.

The U2711 dominated CNet's DisplayMate tests (granted, CNet doesn't really review pro monitors, so the competition is pretty weak)--and scored about 25 points higher than the 3007. It's a marked improvement, and a showing of what the hypothetical Apple 27" would achieve--the 30" ACD bests the 3007--the Apple 27" should follow in that trend and best the 2711, which is the best large-format monitor Dell has shipped to date.

http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-ultrasharp-u2711/4505-3174_7-33913833.html?tag=mncol;lst

http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-ultrasharp-3007wfp/4505-3174_7-31645040.html

There is no compelling reason to buy the 3007WFP over the U2711 if monitor performance is actually an issue. If the 27" and the 30" don't seem to be much of a difference to you, I doubt the upcoming NEC will fit the bill, either. You might as well save your money and sit on that 3007 for a few more generations.
 
What I did notice is that a 27" next to a 30" really shows how big the 30" is. It would be hard to scale down. It's more like a 24" other than the higher resolution.
 
What I did notice is that a 27" next to a 30" really shows how big the 30" is. It would be hard to scale down. It's more like a 24" other than the higher resolution.


It looks like everyone, including myself, have given up hope of a Mac Pro or MacBook Pro update anytime soon.

The smoke has died down and everything now is about the iPad and probably will be for quite a while. I find Apple's lack of attention to their computer business very depressing.

It's a good thing the identity of the idiot who floated the rumored March 16th Mac Pro update information will never be known.
 
It looks like everyone, including myself, have given up hope of a Mac Pro or MacBook Pro update anytime soon.

The smoke has died down and everything now is about the iPad and probably will be for quite a while. I find Apple's lack of attention to their computer business very depressing.

It's a good thing the identity of the idiot who floated the rumored March 16th Mac Pro update information will never be known.

That "idiot" was most likely someone on the Apple payroll. Just like the rumor last year about Blu-ray being incorporated by Spring, Apple accomplishes two things by floating these false rumors: 1, it shuts up people asking for (and complaining about the lack of) needed features Apple refuses and has no intention of ever implementing, and 2, it tabulates and weighs the responses. Free market research, can't beat it.

And Apple will never again be a cutting edge computer company; that opportunity passed a long time ago and it's not ever coming back. The only thing more irritating than Apple's arrogance and disregard of its established computer base and pro app customers is the utter idiocy of new Apple iCrap customers. Jobs, the Gordon Gecko of computers, laughs out loud all the way to the bank.

Now Jobs KNOWS he could shrink-wrap his feces, pay off every magazine and almost every website in existence with tons of ad buys to secure great press and great reviews, and the marks will be lining up to buy it because "It's cool" "It's mobile" "Costs less than a computer!" and most importantly of all, "Steve made it, Dude."

Only Jobs could return the world back prior to the days of multitasking and flash, copy existing products, and be lauded a visionary.

Cutting-edge innovation means nothing compared to success at selling iGarbage.

Computers and users actually creating content? SO over, Dude.

:apple:
 
They've had one of these in a local apple store for awhile now (Fullerton, CA) assuming it's still there. (Last I checked was a month ago when I went to play with a magic mouse.)

It's pretty nice.
 
They've had one of these in a local apple store for awhile now (Fullerton, CA) assuming it's still there. (Last I checked was a month ago when I went to play with a magic mouse.)

It's pretty nice.

Seems to be little interest in the Mac Pro. I wonder if they do release the Mac Book Pro update on April 13th, as rumored, if the Mac Pro update will be announced at that time? I sure hope so, but have little faith it will happen then.
 
Seems to be little interest in the Mac Pro. I wonder if they do release the Mac Book Pro update on April 13th, as rumored, if the Mac Pro update will be announced at that time? I sure hope so, but have little faith it will happen then.

I think the Mac Pro update is going to happen regardless of if the MBP update happens at the same time. There's so much of a smaller market for the Mac Pro, I think they might just "sneak in" a silent update. Or maybe this is just me reallllly hoping they release them next Tuesday... :)
 
What I did notice is that a 27" next to a 30" really shows how big the 30" is. It would be hard to scale down. It's more like a 24" other than the higher resolution.

Don't sweat it brother, your 3007 will still be state of the art when the new 27" panels arrive. There's no need to press the 4 year old 30" panel vs. new/soon to be announced 27" panel.

As was said, you can keep your current 30" or grab a newer 30" display if you want that screen real-estate.
 
I think the Mac Pro update is going to happen regardless of if the MBP update happens at the same time. There's so much of a smaller market for the Mac Pro, I think they might just "sneak in" a silent update. Or maybe this is just me reallllly hoping they release them next Tuesday... :)

I stupidly sold my Mac Pro in advance of that BS March 16th rumor, trying to get a great price, and am now being hung out to dry. If I had known it would be this long before the 2010 Mac Pro comes out...but that's hindsight. Here's hoping the wait will be worth it :)
 
I stupidly sold my Mac Pro in advance of that BS March 16th rumor, trying to get a great price, and am now being hung out to dry. If I had known it would be this long before the 2010 Mac Pro comes out...but that's hindsight. Here's hoping the wait will be worth it :)

Shoot, that's a bummer. Sorry to hear that. Here's to hoping the wait really was worth it!

I actually had no clue any of this was going on. I decided to get a Mac Pro a few weeks ago and thought I'd check to make sure no new models were due out. Bad mistake. I quickly realized I had picked one of the worst times to be shopping for a Mac Pro...
 
I stupidly sold my Mac Pro in advance of that BS March 16th rumor, trying to get a great price, and am now being hung out to dry. If I had known it would be this long before the 2010 Mac Pro comes out...but that's hindsight. Here's hoping the wait will be worth it :)

I smile at stories like this - since in my mind anyone who sells a computer because of an Apple rumour must not actually need that computer.

I *need* my computers, so I wouldn't think of selling one until a couple of months *after* I had the new one in my hands.

(*After* I've copied all my files and installed all my applications, and verified that everything works on the new system. I'll also do a P2V and move the old system into the new one in case months later I realize that something's missing or not working.)
 
I smile at stories like this - since in my mind anyone who sells a computer because of an Apple rumour must not actually need that computer.

I *need* my computers, so I wouldn't think of selling one until a couple of months *after* I had the new one in my hands.

(*After* I've copied all my files and installed all my applications, and verified that everything works on the new system. I'll also do a P2V and move the old system into the new one in case months later I realize that something's missing or not working.)


Thank you for saying this.

I didn't have a nice way of saying the exact same thing. It's just terrible what the consumer electronics industry and marketing has done with common sense.
 
I think there is quite a bit of interest in the 2010 Mac Pros. It just seems like people aren't talking that much about them right now, because of all the BS rumors, spec talk, hoping, wishing, and lackluster 09 release.

Profits and #'s have clearly taken center stage for Apple. Can't really say I blame them but they should be changing the MP market to fit into the current times.

A lot of people are getting pissed that apple is dragging thier feet on the new MPs. And what's up with the MBPs coming before the freakin' MPs??:confused::confused:

That's freakin' lame Apple!:rolleyes:

I wish Dell or HP was making an easily converted hackintosh......
 
Apple's closed lips policy is really unprofessional

Its probably good for the ego of Steve Jobs, to be able to surprise people with new hardware on one of his special events, but Apple's closed lips policy is really unprofessional when you want to deal with someone, who has to plan the purchase of hardware for their business.

E.g. I need an eSATA card for a new RAID system now. The system will be used with a new MacPro, but as no one knows when these new MacPros will be available, I have to buy a card, that runs in my current Quad G5 as well, which limits the choice significantly. Furthermore, if the new MacPros will have build-in eSATA, the purchase would be a waste of money.
If I knew, when the new machines will be available and what the specs are, I could decide, whether I delay the purchase, get a cheap eSATA card in the meantime, buy a RAID with additional FW-port etc. With no information the expense is a true gambling.

If Apple's suppliers would play the same silly "I don't say anything until the product is ready for shipping" game with Apple like Apple is playing with their business customers, Apple would be out of business for quite some time.

The closed lips policy works for gadgets, where anticipation is the greatest pleasure.
But that is not the way you can do business.

Probably Apple has already become a gadget company and we simply didn't realize it?
 
I think there is quite a bit of interest in the 2010 Mac Pros. It just seems like people aren't talking that much about them right now, because of all the BS rumors, spec talk, hoping, wishing, and lackluster 09 release. ...

I think the bigger problem is just that Apple doesn't make drop in towers and cases. They have to go through the trouble of redesigning the innards of the tower if the new chip isn't something that can be dropped in. Like with Nehalem, which is probably a good reason for the ridiculous price increase.

The only thing I wish Apple would do with their workstations is offer a barebones case. All I want is the processors and MAYBE a GFX card, let me buy the rest from somewhere else.

Its probably good for the ego of Steve Jobs, to be able to surprise people with new hardware on one of his special events, but Apple's closed lips policy is really unprofessional when you want to deal with someone, who has to plan the purchase of hardware for their business....

I agree, but personally, I'd just buy the current model if I were needing a tower right this very minute and my bread and butter / meat and potatoes job depended on the speed. I wish Apple would give us a better idea when a new tower was coming out, or at least announced what the specs their aiming for and price point would be.

I am stuck with a slow as molasses dual core 2.0GHz G5, and I don't even use it anymore, not even for storage. My MBP smokes it. Right now, i have enough to get a used machine, but Apple fanboys think their machines are worth almost new. So I might as well buy new.
 
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