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This may be the first Apple product that I have 0 interest in since the first iPhone...what a waste
Same for me it was interesting at first but I have no practical use for it personally. Maybe if I lived alone rather than with my wife it would be fun to play for one but this thing does not improve face to face relationships ect. I can do everything on my ipad, macbook and iphone I need to do.
 
Well, Apple's committed to getting the user experience positive as well as they can. It can't be cheap to do that training. Let's be realistic... Can we honestly expect more than a small handful of these expensive first gen rev A products leaving shelves in each store? Expecting really low volume.

So... why do the training then? Surely it is being done for the expected cheaper next gen or later when typical use case is better defined(?).
 
I think this product is going to be DOA when it finally ships.

The size, weight, and finicky fitment process (not to mention the price) are going to make this completely unappealing as a consumer product.

Early adopters and developers will get it, but it's never going to be a mass-market smash success. Wait for version 2 or version 3 that will be lighter, easier to fit, and more affordable.
 
This sounds to me like Apple has determined that potential customers for the VP need to be trained to use it, rather than just opening a box and starting it up like every other Apple device. Bodes poorly for reviews by folks who get them delivered and can't get them to work right.
 
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What about for disabled people who can't get to/in a store? Isn't this one of the main use cases and interests of the device? If your product needs me to come in and test drive it, I don't want it.

Oh also it sounds like creating an atmosphere for high-pressure sales. For example, what if the person were to get it delivered at home, put it on, and not like it? In the store there will be that friendly team member to explain how great it really is...

I could easily afford this, but I have neither the time nor interest in setting aside part of my day to go to an Apple Store. My time is valuable, which is probably why I can afford it..
 
What about for disabled people who can't get to/in a store? Isn't this one of the main use cases and interests of the device? If your product needs me to come in and test drive it, I don't want it.

Oh also it sounds like creating an atmosphere for high-pressure sales. For example, what if the person were to get it delivered at home, put it on, and not like it? In the store there will be that friendly team member to explain how great it really is...
You don't leave home for Dr. appts?
 
Imagine if in 1-2 years, when you go up to a store employee, they're wearing a vision pro with the eye transparency visible. Not looking forward to that experience.

No info yet on apple care+ pricing?
 
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Got a Mac? Your entire Mac can run on it, too. So no shortage of apps.

I’m pretty sure AVP can only mirror one display. It can’t even simulate a second display. Their demo showed a MacBook with a black screen, and the main display just hovers on above it.
 
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It's an entirely new category for most people. I suggest not judging it too early. Apple took their time to do a Mixed-Reality headset better than anything on the market.

Is the high price influencing your position? If it was $400, would you feel differently? Given the incredible technology built in, they are probably losing money on the first several thousands of units sold. It's a long-term vision (pun intended).

Spot on. I will add it's also for people with fertile imaginations.

People who are unable or unwilling to understand or research what AR is about should not purchase this device and simply move on.
 
I don't think these are meant to be worn in public, aside from maybe on a plane. But your comment reminds me of all the folks who made fun of the original AirPods saying they looked ridiculous and nobody would wear them in public.
Anyone who wears Vision Pro outside their home will look like a complete douchebag. They’ll look like it inside their home too but at least no one else has to see it.

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Should be an exciting release for YouTube review hawkers and Apple Podcasters with too much money (Gruber, ATP & Relay folks)
 
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I haven't been to the local Apple Store in a long time. First, due to lack of time, then COVID, then lack of time again.

I assume, they have gotten a bit more quiet since before COVID? Because before COVID, it was a mixture between a circus and an asylum.

For 4k, I hope they offer a séparée of sorts.
 
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That was the basis for my original excitement. But I think this will be more of an iPad experience than a Mac experience. As such, it will have limited utility as a laptop/desktop alternative, which is ironically where I think much of its potential lies.
I want to use as desktop so I think this is a very salient issue. Two big problems…single user on a device with a price of of a laptop and limited to iPad apps not the full MacOS range of apps.
 
“Pushed” …. So unnecessarily confrontational language for what is hardly a surprising or unusual strategy.
 
Unaffordable to 80% of the market with limited use options.
Good idea.

Not every product sold is meant to be "affordable" to everybody. However, like with other new technologies, prices for VR/AR headsets will presumably come down over time. Before too long, there may be a range of Apple versions available from an SE model to an Ultra model.
 
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