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OK. I'll take your word for it but I have been around smelting Iron, Steel, and Aluminum plants and they kick out a significant amount of dangerous chemicals themselves.

Ore is usually loaded with impurities that need to be removed. This impurities include mixtures of natural lanthanides, rare earth minerals, sulphur, etc. etc.

If this is the primary reason why Aluminum is considered "eco-friendly" over plastic and yet it takes more energy to manufacture and recycle aluminum, then it seems to me that we should work on better filters for manufacturing plants to clean up the emissions.

Sorry, I didn't mean to get this thread so far off topic. I am done.

aluminum wasnt that environmental friendly untill recent years becuase of a new protective chromium coating that makes it environmental friendly.

however Aluminum cannot be destroyed in the environment, it can only change its form.
 
Thermoset plastics are simply not reusable. That's why they are trying to phase them out of Macs. There are other reasons they chose to use it on iPhone 3G, mainly cost and reception.

That being said, my white MB has held up very well after almost a year of abuse. Besides scratching and getting dirty (why did I buy white, oh yeah, they wanted $100 more for the color black), I have found it to be pretty resilient.
 
aluminum wasnt that environmental friendly untill recent years becuase of a new protective chromium coating that makes it environmental friendly.

Interesting.

Sometimes it's confusing to be "green".

I remember when "eco-friendly plastic bags" were introduced at grocery stores and their use was encouraged to reduce the destruction of trees.

Now plastic bags are everywhere and some are encouraging going back to paper.

I gave up deciding and bought my own bags from Walmart. I keep them in my vehicle and then re-use them.

Next thing you know, I will get crucified for supporting child labor making grocery bags in indonesian sweatshops.
 
Just wondering- why did Apple go from Titanium to Aluminum? Because Aluminum is lighter? I'm just thinking of the TiBook. XD

Aluminium is much, much cheaper, many times more abundant, easier to work with, and even though titanium is great in many ways, they cocked it up by using an almost pure titanium, giving the box way too much flex (they could have alloyed it instead), and it's more difficult to anodize/paint it. Unfortunately they painted the whole damn thing. Go do a google search for Tibook, and then add words like "peeling", and "flaking".

Now, the tibook could have a been a great product, if it weren't for the exceptionally bad delivery (even though it sold well).
 
Who cares about the ****ing difference between plastic and aluminum?! Lets talk about a release date!:eek:
 
As soon as its announced I am going to get the new macbook pro. I just bought a penryn 2.4 200gb 4 gb ram macbook pro in Feb. What do you think I could get for it on craigslist or ebay?
I got $1650 for mine, with the default 2GB of RAM. Sold it on eBay about a month ago.

I sold it because I know a refresh is imminent, and because I didn't want to have such an expensive laptop. When the MacBooks get a redesign, I will purchase the very base one for lugging around to school with me.
 
Aluminium is much, much cheaper, many times more abundant, easier to work with, and even though titanium is great in many ways, they cocked it up by using an almost pure titanium, giving the box way too much flex (they could have alloyed it instead), and it's more difficult to anodize/paint it. Unfortunately they painted the whole damn thing. Go do a google search for Tibook, and then add words like "peeling", and "flaking".

Now, the tibook could have a been a great product, if it weren't for the exceptionally bad delivery (even though it sold well).

i think they where made from aluminum and Anodized titanium not 100% titanium
 
The August update got a Stevenote because it was a case material change. The MacBook Pro case update (if we actually do see the long battery and user-accessible HDD) won't get a Stevenote.
I think it was because of iLife '08 and iWork '08.

No evidence, just speculation.
And a number of rumors from a reliable source.

An aluminum MacBook would most likely qualify for a Stevenote, but as we've only seen new cases for the MacBook Pro recently (irony!), I don't see it happening for a while.
Remember the leaked aluminum keyboard last year? The iMac itself was never leaked… so that meant no redesigned iMacs! :rolleyes:

The quad core that intel is releasing in August draws something like 44 watts and while it is labeled as a mobile chip it will mainly be relegated to thick brick PCs. It is too hot for the MBP.

The Nehalem quads will be very low power and will work well in a MBP. Unfortunately, they aren't expected to be available until 3rd qtr. 2009.
Supposedly there will be a 2.27 GHz quad-core in Q4 2008 that only draws 35 W. Nehalem will be 45/55 W (35/45 W in "Penryn" terms).

With regard to the possibility of the Macbook becoming aluminum, I personally think it would be a nice look, however Apple would lose the clear distinction between its consumer and professional lineup.
  1. Bigger screens
  2. Higher resolution screens
  3. Faster processors
  4. 7200 RPM HDD option
  5. Better speakers
  6. GRAPHICS CARD
Don't forget that while the MacBook Pro may end up like a fat MacBook Air, the MacBook may go more "consumer" and end up like a laptop version of the iMac.
 
i think they where made from aluminum and Anodized titanium not 100% titanium
Nope, they were made from painted "pure" titanium, not even a titanium alloy, and certainly not aluminium.

Edit:
Actually, they claimed it was "commercially pure" titanium (99.5 percent back then).

Here's a link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010124062800/www.apple.com/powerbook/

Oh, and the white painted frame was made from carbon fiber (except it has almost no fibres in it, but was mostly just epoxy with small fragments of carbon fibres and some graphite), primed and then painted
 
And they wouldn't do it if it cut their profits. There isn't a big corporation alive that would.

They most likely figured out that such a move would gain more profit from environmentalist customers than implementing it would cost them.
 
no, plastic IS oil. plastic is made out of the black oil just like rubber and much more.. so those factories that produce plastic from black oil (not veggie oil)
also pollut the environment, burning the oil to produce plastic is one of the many steps

Isn't that what I said?
 
I think there is no doubt you are going to see aluminum macbooks with LED screens. I think right now if you looked at it the Macbook is the most environmentally unfriendly. Apple said in their Green Apple letter that they are trying to phase out dangerous plastic and LCDs all together so I think the Macbook is the last product with both of them (minus the Monitors because we all know they haven't been updated in a long time)
 
Apple seems to follow a very strict schedule. Last August was iMac's month. This August is MacBooks'.

This is getting pretty easy now.

Every June/July is iPhone's month.

Every September/October is iPod's month.

And every January is new products' month.

Easy.
Thank you Apple.
I figured this out in April/May of this year. It's not that hard, isn't it?

Every late January / late February is minor product bump month.

Spring is for more significant product updates.

Every January is NEW products month. So I don't know why people are expecting updated Mac Pros / MacBook Airs / MacBook Pros / MacBooks / etc. at Macworld. For Macs, Macworld is for new or revamped (Intel transition) products.
 
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