Apple Press Event October 19 Confirmed

[gangst]

The 970MP currently tops out at 2.5GHz.
http://ascii24.com/news/i/topi/article/2005/07/07/imageview/images779599.jpg.html

Aren't the current 970 chips in the powermacs overclocked?
I always thought IBM chips were overclocked by Apple. If so, overclocking (on each core) by 15% will make the chip 3GHz. If heat forbids I think it is possibility on Wednesday.

 

[Peace]

Is the latest minor update to OS X already out or are we expecting it this week with the new powerbooks?

I think I'm just going to get the fiance the iBook and hold off on getting myself a computer. Now these crazy MacOSRumors ideas of new iBooks are playing with my brain!

I would venture to guess 10.4.3 will come out the same day the new powerbooks and powermacs are announced since these new machines will more than likely need 10.4.3.

 

[maddav]

Is the latest minor update to OS X already out or are we expecting it this week with the new powerbooks?

I think I'm just going to get the fiance the iBook and hold off on getting myself a computer. Now these crazy MacOSRumors ideas of new iBooks are playing with my brain!

Yeah I find the slimmer iBook very tempting too, though I need lots of Video RAM.

As for the new OS X installment, it wouldn't suprise me if 10.4.3 was announced on wednesday too, as I believe it has been seeded to developers for a good while now.

 

[gangst]

Is the latest minor update to OS X already out or are we expecting it this week with the new powerbooks?

I think I'm just going to get the fiance the iBook and hold off on getting myself a computer. Now these crazy MacOSRumors ideas of new iBooks are playing with my brain!

I think that if the iBooks were going to be updated they would have been done so last Wednesday at what was a consumer event. This event on wednesday is more of pro event.

If you can wait till Wednesday wait, if not buy now.

Plus, MacOSRumors aren't the most reliable.

 

[Hattig]

Here's new rumor info from MacOsRumors.com... Enjoy!

http://www.macosrumors.com/20051016B.php

I think I enjoy the speculateion about what is coming out more than the actual event!

Jason

Nice but no cookie - the 970 requires a direct connection to the chipset, so two 970s means a northbridge with two processor interfaces - the current situation. There is no way they will have a single northbridge connecting to 4 processors. However it is possible to connect two dual-cores.

Of course, they could use TWO northbridges, and connect them with coherent HyperTransport ... but that would be a lot of work for a VERY limited market product.

So ... 4 cores will be achieved via two dual-core processors, not 4 single-core processors.

 

[cal6n]

Mmm, LaTeX. Maybe typing my homework on a mac would make it actually \textbf{fun!}

From personal experience I can say that it helps. Just not much!

 

[NewbieNerd]

I think that if the iBooks were going to be updated they would have been done so last Wednesday at what was a consumer event. This event on wednesday is more of pro event.

If you can wait till Wednesday wait, if not buy now.

Plus, MacOSRumors aren't the most reliable.

Yeah, it just wouldn't make sense updating iBooks now too. For the powerbook side of this event, Apple wants to, at least somewhat, justify the price difference between the pbooks and the ibooks, and to give a hefty update to ibooks at the same time probably wouldn't help much. More vram nevertheless would be good.

Ah well, I'll buy the ibook wednesday no matter what.

 

[Peace]

With the new revs and switch to Intel I can see the 12" iBook being discontinued.

 

[Epicurus]

Ok. I'm doing a PhD in physics and I can tell you that you don't want to use your laptop as your primary computing ressource I don't know, my 15 inches pbook 1.25 is really nice for mail/latex/analysis ... but you should rely on your university if you need any serious computing power.

Anyway, I really should not buy a new pbook, so I hope that they only get slightly updated this week

Amazing.. I'm in a physics PhD program, have a PB15 1.25GHz and have never had any trouble doing "serious" work on it. I use my PowerBook as my primary computer, running Mathematica, Matlab, Maple, LaTeX, R, Grass, octave, etc. Sure, I've given my mac a task that took it 2 hours to run, but that was to be expected considering the demands I'm putting on it. Adding ram helps, but I don't really think that having a dual processor desktop would have saved me enough time to justify walking all the way to the departmental computer lab (although their PowerMacs have pretty nice specs: 4GB ram, dual 2.7GHz G5, etc., etc.).

Still I am sorely tempted by the promise of new powerbooks. If they offer a deal for getting a new PB and a new iPod with a nice discount on top of my EDU discount (like they did two years ago when I got my current laptop), I'll probably give in.

 

[QuantumMac]

Ok. I'm doing a PhD in physics and I can tell you that you don't want to use your laptop as your primary computing ressource I don't know, my 15 inches pbook 1.25 is really nice for mail/latex/analysis ... but you should rely on your university if you need any serious computing power.

Anyway, I really should not buy a new pbook, so I hope that they only get slightly updated this week

Yes, I must agree with you... But I'll have a cluster with 20 XServe G5 Dual 2 GHz at my disposal

I'll use the pb for simplier calcs with Mathematica and Mathlab, as well as LaTeX.

 

[ksz]

Aside from the hardware upgrades (PowerMac and PowerBook) there are probably a few extra surprises in store. One I'd put money on is the PhotoPro app as a higher end replacement for iPhoto. There's incentive to add more CoreImage photo editing options, better database controls, more camera support, and possibly a wider selection of Photo Book options. Beyond that Apple certainly has an updated iSight somewhere in the pipe (better resolution, response time, probably smaller too). Apple could also update the iPod Camera Connector (maybe quietly so, but hopefully soon).

Maybe there will be new Cinema Displays with built-in iSight cameras, but I doubt it. Just explaining the details of the improved PowerMacs and PowerBooks and bragging about PhotoPro would take an hour. Any more than that and those "selected media" will have a collective brain overload.

Thinking along the same lines, Apple might unveil an 80GB iPod for use with the digital camera attachment, thus competing with Epson's highly successful P-2000 and recently announced P-4000 which also features an 80GB HD.

 

[Diomedes]

Sure, if you're willing to move the PowerBook line from think & light to thick & heavy.

I think Apple could pull off some engineering to accommodate it. To be honest, despite its bulk, I like the Dell XPS 2 I own — it's a fast piece of hardware that doesn't run any hotter than my loaded 17" PowerBook. From what I can see, it's thickness seems due to the placement of its ports (6 USB, 1 4-pin FW, plus various and sundry others).

As for a pro photo app — might not Apple wait until the final regulatory approval of the Adobe-Macromedia merger? The DOJ might require Adobe sell redundant applications so as not to have a monopoly. This would probably be GoLive, FreeHand, and Fireworks. What other company besides Apple could successfully market these applications in the Pro space?

(Actually, I hope not...I don't want any further rifts in the Apple-Adobe relationship.)

 

[oskar]

I don't think its a misconception. Higher resolution does mean a better screen, just not a better user experience. If the resolution went up by a factor of 4 over night, no one would complain since the screen would look almost the same. Still, the added resolution would be great for HD content and high-res photo work. Not being able to really see one pixel at a time isn't such a bad thing if the software and the GUI keep up. We have to accept that the hardware will keep getting better and hope that the software can match the pace.

I believe which screen being better depends on the user which resolution works better for him. You can't say that something is better if someone else sees it different.
For example I believe that for HD videos and images, the higher resolution screen is better when working with the images at 100%. But when working with image editting, the current screen resolutions are just perfect for me. I've tried working on a PC with higher resolution than my PB and I couldn't stand it. The images looked awesome and fit in the screen, but everything else (text,icons, gui) was way too small (for me). I preferred to change the setting to the same resolution as my PB. So maybe for one it's better, for someone else it's not.
The "problem" is that users aren't getting the higher resolution choice right now. So even if I wouldn't use it as much as someone else, those who do "NEED" it should get the option.

 

[oskar]

Thinking along the same lines, Apple might unveil an 80GB iPod for use with the digital camera attachment, thus competing with Epson's highly successful P-2000 and recently announced P-4000 which also features an 80GB HD.

I bet that even if those costed the same as the new iPods ($299 and $399), even then the vast majority would prefer an iPod, no matter if they have lower specs. The iPod is here to stay.

OK, let's forget iPods and accesories... what is really going to be revealed on Wednesday?


BTW, is there a thread about the new iPods... someone receiving theirs, reviewing it, and trying different video formats on it?

 

[ksz]

I bet that even if those costed the same as the new iPods ($299 and $399), even then the vast majority would prefer an iPod, no matter if they have lower specs. The iPod is here to stay.

Although I agree with your statement in general, pros shoot almost entirely in RAW mode with DSLRs that cost upwards of $3000. Capacity is important in order to keep up with imaging sensors of 12 MPixel, 16 MPixel, etc. The P-4000 has both a larger screen and larger capacity, and it's targeted for digital photographers. An 80GB iPod at $499 could compete in this category.

 

[VicMacs]

12 incher

i dont think that the 12 incher will be discontinued.
it is, at least in my country, much more popular than the 15in and by far more than the 17 in, because of its form size, price and speed. I would have gotten an ibook if the 12 in powerbook was not out when I had to buy a portable... the 15-17inch pbs are for rich people... the 12 inch is for the lowlife pros

viva la 12 in!

 

[nagromme]

Still, like you, I'd like to see it with my own eyes too. Now, if only the Apple SoHo store would actually get those iMacs in stock so I could play with one.

We may have to wait for some horrible grisly dissesction to show up on some Japanese site But MacWorld's a good source--I believe it. The logo is a clever place to hide the sensor.

Now these crazy MacOSRumors ideas of new iBooks are playing with my brain!

MOSR hasn't been reliable (and that's being nice) for a LONG time. (Now they're talking about wireless iPods so you can stream music to your stereo without a cable, and so you can shop at iTunes right from your iPod. This makes about zero sense.)

i dont think that the 12 incher will be discontinued.
it is, at least in my country, much more popular than the 15in

Me neither--except that I CAN see it possibly becoming a different model (like 13" wide). Most likely with the Intel transition.

 

[MacSA]

I dont think ANY of macosrumors predictions have ever come true.

 

[MRU]

i dont think that the 12 incher will be discontinued.
it is, at least in my country, much more popular than the 15in and by far more than the 17 in, because of its form size, price and speed. I would have gotten an ibook if the 12 in powerbook was not out when I had to buy a portable... the 15-17inch pbs are for rich people... the 12 inch is for the lowlife pros

viva la 12 in!

I predict it will be discontinued. Here in Ireland where Apples European HQ is, the Apple store is showing that the 15 & 17 models are shipping 4-5 days. However 12" is 24hrs. This means 2 things. Either the 12 is receiving no update what so ever (unlikely) or will be discontinued from 19'th on...

Apple have taken note that the 12" is more popular than the bigger powerbooks in many terrortories including here in Ireland, so they will replace it with a 13" widescreen model that will either have aa 1200x800 or 1440x900 resolution.. Processor will prbably stay at 1.5ghz or may recieve slight update to 1.67ghz. It will feature a upgraded GPU to a radeon 9700 64mb.

Both the 15 & 17 models will feature very slight upgraded processors and Higher resolution screens with similar technology to BriteLite.
Graphics cards will be updated to 128mb Radeon 9700 as standard or possibly an ATI X700.

Memory will be 512mb across the range. Hard Drives will remain the same as current.

 

[gugy]

I dont think ANY of macosrumors predictions have ever come true.

I don't like then but MOSR predict a 30" Cinema Display while back and they were right. They did also predict another 40" + display. Maybe it could be unveil on Wednesday.

 

[h00ligan]

Finally! Now I am 100% positive this is when the dual-core Power Macs will be unveiled. I can't wait!

And damn... Apple is unveiling so many new products lately. Another new event is awesome in my book, though. I like watching the video cast afterwards.

Of course, they have to get a firesale going on power pc junk Also, xserve update.

 

[h00ligan]

oh yah and also, apple backup solution for working with automator.

 

[Bern]

I don't care about all that just give me a BT Mighty Mouse

 

[ksz]

...
Apple have taken note that the 12" is more popular than the bigger powerbooks in many terrortories including here in Ireland, so they will replace it with a 13" widescreen model that will either have aa 1200x800 or 1440x900 resolution.. Processor will prbably stay at 1.5ghz or may recieve slight update to 1.67ghz. It will feature a upgraded GPU to a radeon 9700 64mb.
...

The ultraportable category may be the hottest segment of the market. I hope Apple delivers a player here, ideally as follows:

12.1" widescreen
1280x800
1.4-1.5 GHz
512MB std, upgradeable to 2GB (most Windows ultraportables stop at 1GB max)
60GB HD expandable to 100GB
Slot-loading DVD-RW (keep the form factor thin)
Bluetooth / WiFi 802.11b/g
ATI Mobility X600 or X700
Gigabit ethernet
Microphone, iSight

This would be Apple's version of the Asus W5A.

 

[Azurael]

I don't usually like to speculate, but with regard to the whole 12" PB thing - I certainly can't see Apple axing the smaller PB considering it's popularity in comparison to the larger models. However, I don't think it'll be a change in size - more a change in form factor. I'm writing this from a month old Cytron Notebook (slightly more attractively cased OEM version of an MSI MegaBook S270) with a 12" 1280x800 widescren... It's thinner than my 12" iBook, shallower and only very slightly wider... (I have a pic of the two side by side, but I lost it somewhere)

That definitely seems to be an option with regard to screen. It's also just about 'HD' - 720p is 1280x768 which would bring it almost into line with current 15" PBs (which will likely see a boost nearer 1080i resolution)... Some people might be witing for the resolution independence in 10.5 for that one but it looks pretty to me with my young eyes.