Apple Product Roadmap 2023–24: Over 15 New Devices in Development

[switz]

A painless exercise that could significantly speed up your internet: reboot your router/wifi system and cable modem.

I had a 5K 27" iMac and used to carry it back and forth to the mountain RV park every summer as the shed was unheated and sub zero temps are not good for computer stuff. When the OS updates timed out, I gave it to the grandkids to destroy. I have had the most recent MacPro towers ever since the first ones came out (G3 and later) for my office and at home.

In 2022, Apple came out with the Mac Studio and new 27" monitors. My existing 2013 computer system consisted of a 2013 MacPro that was tweaked as much as possible but was now unable to update to the latest OS and one of the two 27" TB2 Apple monitors had just failed. They had given good service for nearly nine years.

I acquired two 27" VESA mount Studio Displays (reusing the existing wall mounts) and a MacStudio Ultra (128GB memory and 8TB SSD) and the Studio sits under the left monitor. I reclaimed some desk top space and reduced the wiring clutter. The nearly $10K cost (even with my military discount) should last at least 7 or 8 years. At age 78, that may be a longer time frame than what I personally actually have.

I have a 2018 Intel i7 Mini with Apple 2TB SSD and 64GB of OWC memory working as a NAS file server. I have a 24" LG monitor for the mini. The bottle neck to backups is the speed of writing to the NAS. The cache is 50GB during backups so a faster CPU would not help. I can turn the LG monitor off after the system boots and use remote management from the Studio.

The last Intel devices (MacPro and mini) were sold in January 2023. Apple has to support these Intel boxes in MacOS for at least the three years of the Extended Apple Care. So I could consider an upgrade to "M" series processor when I can see more memory in the M2 series mini. I can reuse the LG monitor whenever I would do this upgrade.

 

[H2SO4]

Think of the cost in terms of how much you spend on an equivalent Windows PC in the same amount of time that the Mac set up will last. When I got my first iMac in 2012, I was a bit shell shocked that I was spending over $3000 on a computer...but it lasted seven years. I never had a PC that would make it past 2½ years before needing to be replaced..and they cost around $2000-2300 each. In the long run, the iMac was cheaper.

I hear this regular but in my experience it just isn't true. Th eoldest computers I have, (and also that I see in service), are overwhelmingly Windows machines. This is especially true in industrial settings, and strangely enough in high security sites and banks.

 

[Le0M]

Except that the Apple Vision Pro is a "probably not even Retina" downgrade in resolution density from Apple's other monitors

From what people who tried it said, you can't see the pixels. So... who cares what the actual resolution is, if you can't distinguish pixels?

 

[bobone]

I'm sick of waiting for a proper replacement for my 2017 iMac, so I guess Apple won. I'm buying a Studio Display and a Mac Mini. I tried the Dell 27" 4K monitor for a while, but the scaling issues are terrible, and the image quality isn't anywhere near Apple's. I've waited for the Samsung Viewfinity S9, but I should have known better. Based on the first review, it also sucks.

The only question left: how much am I going to spend? The 2017 iMac was costly then, but I will surely break my personal record at the Apple Store. I just want a speedier machine, screen size is fine. You would expect that a similar, more up-to-date machine would be cheaper, but I need to spend hundreds of dollars more this round to get a similar setup.

A Mac Mini with 32GB of memory, a Studio Display, and an Apple keyboard and trackpad is now $3,646. Yes, it's faster than my current iMac, and I can reuse the display when I upgrade the Mac Mini in a few years, but holy ****, I've never spent so much money on a freaking computer.

I spent $5400 on a similar PC setup in 93 or so. I want to say monitors were over $1K back then for a 17" CRT with high scan rates. But that's minor money, compared to what you could spend on an Indigo2 Workstation. The Z-buffered GPUs were over $25K each, by themselves. I have paid $900 for a 1GB SCSI HD, in bulk pricing. Just putting the costs of today's hardware in perspective.

 

[smulji]

I can reuse the display when I upgrade the Mac Mini in a few years

This alone will save you money in the long run

 

[smulji]

A redesigned M3 13 MBP will be overdue, sans touchbar and design more in line with the bigger MBPs

I'll wager money Apple won't redesign the chassis.

 

[DavidSchaub]

From what people who tried it said, you can't see the pixels. So... who cares what the actual resolution is, if you can't distinguish pixels?

They said the fonts looked OK, but some also said "it is like watching the world through goggle lenses... which sounds quite perceptible to me.

So even if the clarity is sufficient (and I agree that most don't need 220+ DPI desktop screens either), moving from a 6K (let alone 3-4 5K screens) to a 4K screen is quite the downgrade.

 

[Mr. Dee]

The 30 inch iMac (hopefully its not a Pro model) will be my interim Mac upgrade in 2025.

 

[smulji]

iPad and iPad Pro.

I agree. I'd love to have the following:

iPad - 10.9" / 12.9" / quad speakers / 60hz laminated screen / A-series SoC / Pencil 2 support
iPad Pro - 12.9" / 14" / quad speakers / ProMotion screen / M-series SoC / Pencil 2 support

 

[soyazul]

I am looking forward to replacing either my MacBook Pro or Mac Studio or both with an M3, but I have decided I will need to buy a Windows machine with a 4080/90 for rendering. Kinda lost faith that Apple could make a decent Windows replacement for graphics work.

I am keeping the faith. I'll wait to M3

 

[4odomi]

I'm sick of waiting for a proper replacement for my 2017 iMac, so I guess Apple won. I'm buying a Studio Display and a Mac Mini. I tried the Dell 27" 4K monitor for a while, but the scaling issues are terrible, and the image quality isn't anywhere near Apple's. I've waited for the Samsung Viewfinity S9, but I should have known better. Based on the first review, it also sucks.

The only question left: how much am I going to spend? The 2017 iMac was costly then, but I will surely break my personal record at the Apple Store. I just want a speedier machine, screen size is fine. You would expect that a similar, more up-to-date machine would be cheaper, but I need to spend hundreds of dollars more this round to get a similar setup.

A Mac Mini with 32GB of memory, a Studio Display, and an Apple keyboard and trackpad is now $3,646. Yes, it's faster than my current iMac, and I can reuse the display when I upgrade the Mac Mini in a few years, but holy ****, I've never spent so much money on a freaking computer.

Considering inflation, you're getting twice the machine for what, about 1k more?
Sounds like a good deal to me and a much better set up, in other words you owe Apple some thanks 😊

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

I really wouldn't mind a 30" iMac. 🖥️

 

[one more]

Hopefully they'll move the front-facing camera to the landscape side. That, in combination with any other update, would be absolutely worthwhile.

Not enough of an improvement for somebody already with Air 4 or 5, IMO.

 

[-BigMac-]

Id love to see a 6k 32” iMac.. but it wont happen. It CANT happen. Maybe an iMac Pro could justify the cost?? But a normal iMac cant.

Just the screen.. it will have a 6k screen(maintain ppi). Current 4k 32inch screens are about $1000USD alone. 6k? They dont really exist.. outside of XDR.. which is what? $5000?

$6000 iMac? Dont think so…

 

[4odomi]

Apple is working on at least a dozen new devices set to launch between late 2023 and early 2024, according to an updated product roadmap shared by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

In the latest edition of his "Power On" newsletter, Gurman explained that Apple is planning to launch two Apple Watch Series 9 models and a second-generation Apple Watch Ultra alongside the iPhone 15 lineup this fall.

Substantial updates to the Mac lineup will launch starting later this year or in early 2024, encompassing new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with the M3 Pro and M3 Max chips, a refreshed 13-inch MacBook Pro with the M3 chip, two new MacBook Air models, and new 24-inch iMac models. In addition, Apple is said to be "conducting early work" on an all-new iMac model with a display larger than 30 inches in size.

Gurman reiterated that an updated iPad Air to replace the current M1-based device and two new iPad Pro models with OLED displays are on the way for 2024. Third-generation AirPods Pro, a refreshed Apple TV with improved specifications, and other "home equipment" such as smart displays are also in early development. A new generation of Apple's Vision Pro headset is unlikely to arrive until 2025, he added.

Article Link: Apple Product Roadmap 2023–24: Over 15 New Devices in Development

Personally, I'm waiting for the new 14" & 16" M3, hope the offer Touch Bar as an option, otherwise I'll be conflicted if the 13" MacBook Pro has it 😏

 

[MuppetGate]

Maybe a new mouse design with a better port placement too

Where would you put the port?

 

[DavidSchaub]

Where would you put the port?

The same place that every other wired mouse has ever ever gone?

 

[Attirex]

iPad Mini with OLED and take my money. Maybe in ten years?

 

[mikeoregon]

I’m waiting for bug free systems and application software from Apple.

Really…for years now my iMac refuses to draw thumbnails for jpg image files, have to use GraphicConverter.

 

[mikeoregon]

Apple is working on at least a dozen new devices set to launch between late 2023 and early 2024, according to an updated product roadmap shared by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

In the latest edition of his "Power On" newsletter, Gurman explained that Apple is planning to launch two Apple Watch Series 9 models and a second-generation Apple Watch Ultra alongside the iPhone 15 lineup this fall.

Substantial updates to the Mac lineup will launch starting later this year or in early 2024, encompassing new 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with the M3 Pro and M3 Max chips, a refreshed 13-inch MacBook Pro with the M3 chip, two new MacBook Air models, and new 24-inch iMac models. In addition, Apple is said to be "conducting early work" on an all-new iMac model with a display larger than 30 inches in size.

Gurman reiterated that an updated iPad Air to replace the current M1-based device and two new iPad Pro models with OLED displays are on the way for 2024. Third-generation AirPods Pro, a refreshed Apple TV with improved specifications, and other "home equipment" such as smart displays are also in early development. A new generation of Apple's Vision Pro headset is unlikely to arrive until 2025, he added.

Article Link: Apple Product Roadmap 2023–24: Over 15 New Devices in Development

I hope Apple will make OTC hearing aid option!

 

[Cwoods]

An OLED iPad Pro with a Dynamic Island may finally be the thing that gets me to fully transition from MacBook to iPad.

 

[CasualFanboy]

You would expect that a similar, more up-to-date machine would be cheaper, but I need to spend hundreds of dollars more this round to get a similar setup.

Feel that oligarchy, baby.

 

[ChrisA]

A Mac Mini with 32GB of memory, a Studio Display, and an Apple keyboard and trackpad is now $3,646. Yes, it's faster than my current iMac, and I can reuse the display when I upgrade the Mac Mini in a few years, but holy ****, I've never spent so much money on a freaking computer.

I assume you are using this computer to make a living. If so $4,000 is not much. Be glad you are not a plumber who needs to spend $100K on a truck filled with tools and supplies.

If this is just a hobby or for entertainment then why the high-end gear?

 

[ChrisA]

Apple is said to be "conducting early work" on an all-new iMac model with a display larger than 30 inches in size.​

Why a larger than 30" iMac? Why not a Mac Studio with one or two high-end monitors?

I can think of one good reason. I hope it is true. An iMac does not need an HDMI or Thunderbolt cable and should not be limited by the HDMI or TB interface. With a direct, no cable interface to the GPU the speed potential is not limited.

I can imagine an 8K screen running at 240 frames per second. Maybe they will connect the GPU directly to the LCD panel and build something with video we've not seen before.

 

[xmarcuswildx]

M1 iPad mini with 120hz is all I want.