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That's your avatar. I wonder can you get any more ideologically driven than that? Pro-feminist? Queer positive? Anti-fascist?

Like dude why can't you just be an individual by making up your own mind. These endless labels are just hurting everyone including yourselves.
Not to mention that it’s hurting his/her/it’s/.... social and sexual life.
 
"I know that gender and sexuality have been fluid throughout history"

Study many ancient histories throughout the ages.

Did you know that in Ancient Sparta, The warriors were encouraged to have sexual relations with each other. Homosexuality was actually encouraged throughout the Spartan legion (300 never showed that!).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

it was believed that soldiers who had intimate love with each other would fight harder and more ferociously to protect those they loved.

They were one of the Ancient civilizations most powerful armies.

There's a lot of history of humankind that has been fluid and accepting of different sorts of sexual fluidity throughout the ages.

Just because you didn't study in this area, doesn't mean that the truth isn't there.
 
Oh man. Someone should tell all those British, French, Russian and US WW2 vets they are just as bad as Nazis.

Oh and don't forget the Jews that resisted in the Warsaw ghettos. Guess they're Nazis too?
Just because it so happens that they do one right thing doesn’t mean all the negatives get dismissed. If a criminal commits robbery and then donates the money, they are still a criminal.
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So Apple was cool to take money from white supremacist until it was uncool to do so? Grandstanding polical cowards.
I swear this September event better blow us away.
 
Study many ancient histories throughout the ages.

Did you know that in Ancient Sparta, The warriors were encouraged to have sexual relations with each other. Homosexuality was actually encouraged throughout the Spartan legion (300 never showed that!).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece

it was believed that soldiers who had intimate love with each other would fight harder and more ferociously to protect those they loved.

They were one of the Ancient civilizations most powerful armies.

There's a lot of history of humankind that has been fluid and accepting of different sorts of sexual fluidity throughout the ages.

Just because you didn't study in this area, doesn't mean that the truth isn't there.
Homosexuality is now gender related? I never said anything about homosexuality.

Homosexuality has been observed in 1500 other animal species therefore it is natural and on a personal level I 100% support their rights to be equal to those of straight people.

I just don't buy into the gender fluid, non binary nonsense that these SJWs seem to be obsessed with.
 
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People use Apple's technology while they engage in all kinds of disgusting behavior. Buying nazi-themed apparel is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
So wait, I couldn't use Apple Pay at Walmart, but I could use it to buy nazi apparel? How progressive!
 
It's a slippery slope when Tim Cook starts deciding what is an acceptable purchase using Apple Pay.
How so? Apple is not the government, they are free to censor speech however they want. If Apple's shareholders disagree they have ways of getting rid of him.
 
Why ?
As repugnant as I find the alt/extreme right I disagree.

In the USA there is also a law suit going on where by a Baking firm refused to make a wedding cake for a Gay couple because it went against their religious beliefs.

They're a private business, surely they can do what they like too ?, surely they can choose who they will do business with ?, if you don't like it you can always go elsewhere.

See, if you advocate for discrimination against one group, you are advocating for discrimination against all groups, be they LGBT, Muslim, Baptist, Nazi, Communist, Republican, Democrat, Jewish, Women or any other group you care to define.

Who gets to decide whom you can discriminate against, the majority ?, if so are you now just advocating the white supremacist view point ?

This is a dangerous start down a path that will only bring grief.

And I am sure "Tim" would feel offended if he was discriminated against because he is gay.

I do think there are a few things that are universally and objectively intolerable and thus exempt from such reasoning.
 
Homosexuality is now gender related? I never said anything about homosexuality.

Homosexuality has been observed in 1500 other animal species therefore it is natural and on a personal level I 100% support their rights to be equal to those of straight people.

I just don't buy into the gender fluid, non binary nonsense that these SJWs seem to be obsessed with.

Then don't "buy into it". Nobody is asking you to change you or your body.

They're asking you simply "Don't treat me differently than you".

why is that so hard?
 
Homosexuality is now gender related? I never said anything about homosexuality.

Homosexuality has been observed in 1500 other animal species therefore it is natural and on a personal level I 100% support their rights to be equal to those of straight people.

I just don't buy into the gender fluid, non binary nonsense that these SJWs seem to be obsessed with.


Well, you're wrong.

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/06/30/third-gender-a-short-history/

https://sites.psu.edu/evolutionofhumansexuality/2014/02/19/third-genders-new-concept-or-old/
 
Yessssss! Once again, Apple is leading the way to a better future...in every way...beyond technology. Way to go.
One cannot deny that Apple tries to do what is the right thing to do...always.
Oh please. Apple is only jumping on the news bandwagon to sell more iPhone's in a few weeks. Call me when they do something good when it is of zero benefit to them and not a trendy news item.
 
There is no good discrimination.

But the Nazi believed in erasing entire ethnic peoples from the planet. Nothing compares to that.

Actually, abortion has murdered roughly 8 to 9 times as many innocent children compared to the 6 million Jews and christians massacred.

I don't see Apple standing up to Planned Parenthood who's founder Margaret Sanger was an avowed racist.
 
Apple pay for black panther organization?
Yes. It's tolerant and P.C. to accept minority founded/based hate groups. Everyone except white folks can start hate groups.

I've got an idea....how about zero hate groups. While we are at it let's all get under one flag...the US flag....the one that symbolizes all the values of the US that we strive for. We don't need political, rainbow, or other flags....we have ONE. The one people die everyday defending that has and will defeat every other flag that stands against freedom. Our biggest problem as a country is we can't stand under the same flag. Everyone needs their own. I'd love to see less rainbows in my town and more USA! We all want the same things and don't need special groups that end up causing divisions. Just stand under one flag as one people. Gay, black, white, Man, Woman, Indian....we are all represented in red, white, and blue.
 
While I think white supremacist groups are deplorable and disgusting, I am concerned when people start denying access to things based on what that individual believes to be morally repugnant.

While I'm not trying to make a direct comparison between the two, there are plenty of people here who say "Hooray that Tim Cook won't let these people use Apple pay", who also said "How dare Oregonian bakers not make a cake for a gay wedding."

I'm not sure I want to live in a country where people use economics to force their morality on others (even when I agree with their morality), and be honest, that's what Apple is doing here. And I've seen people twist any view that they don't believe in into "hate speech."
So where would you draw the line? Or do you have no line?

Should we also allow known Islamists access to unusually large amounts of fertilizer? After all, they're just expressing their views, right? Or how about selling a home near a grade school to a serial pedophile? Or even porn to 19 year olds? Who are we to moralize in the marketplace?

Expressing views is one thing. Helping fund and distribute Nazi propaganda and recruitment is quite another, and neither Apple nor any other outlet should enable any or it, let alone profit from it.

Before you reply, if you plan to, ask yourself what Apple should've done if you could've bought a slave with Apple Pay.
 
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