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Apple Puts a Stop to Beeper Mini's iMessage for Android Feature
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As people have said over and over again, it is largely iOS users who choose to only use iMessage and nothing else. In the U.S.
Meanwhile on iPhone…I am typing this on my 15 Pro Max. I also use a Pixel 8 Pro. Most of the people here supporting Android use both iOS and Android. I enjoy tech and both have their advantages and disadvantages.
I call a spade a spade. Beeper was using Apple’s servers which costs money, which they shouldn’t profit from. Apple has a right to be pissed. Otherwise, it was a brilliant idea that I hope works out in the end. If they have to pay Apple a fee to connect I’d be all for it and would pay for the feature on Android. As I’m sure many other people would have no problem doing.
That’s such a generalization. Americans (in my demographic anyway) usually already have countless messaging apps.
It was shocking to some ppl that I wasn’t on Snapchat or using Instagram to the point I had to make both lol.
Most guys hitting on me at the bar usually ask for my snap. Not my number. Same with most college and young adult folks.
When I make friends with girls they usually ask for my insta or Facebook or snap.
People usually call me on anything else but my phone first.
The only people who do call or text me are usually (50+) aka my parents and even they have one or more social apps
iMessage is not a big deal here. The android users just hate knowing when we can tell they are using android.
So it really is about a color.
I mean my old surface pro from 2011 works fine for me. It doesn’t mean it isn’t subpar to my surface book lmao
Good. You want the use benefits of iMessage? Quit being cheap and get a real iPhone.
Let’s hope this motivates regulators to take action. This case needs to be thoroughly investigated to gather solid evidence against Apple.
I love Apple, but choice and openness are good! For its on good, Apples needs to be forced to change its ways.
I love Apple, but choice and openness are good! For its on good, Apples needs to be forced to change its ways.
Well it wasn’t. It was a brilliant idea and as secure as Apple designed it to be because it only uses Apples own API and services.
And in my demographic and social circle no one with an iPhone uses multiple messaging apps, so we have a draw.
Again bringing up the color, when no one supporting the app has brought up color. Now you’re just starting to troll I think.
Apple shouldn't be forced to change because other companies can't compete with a contrasting quality product.
Lmao y’all have literally been talking about this for weeks about how a color makes kids bullied (like this is 2010 lmao) and that iPhone users feel superior because of our iMessage color.
I literally saw someone post about how women are less likely to date a man who uses android and I just rolled my eyes
Lmao y’all are already getting RCS. Why do they need to open iMessage?
Y’all are ridiculous.
It was a terrible idea because the developer didn't have license to use Apple services in the manner he did. He tried to profit off of Apple without paying the cost.
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It wasn’t a exploit. Beeper only uses the available Apple APIs and services. No breach of security happened. It just was a very clever idea.
Those are true scenarios just Google the issues and you’ll see all of the news about it. You really need to be living under a rock or in denial to not be aware this is going on.
I think what bugs me is that I actually have a Samsung galaxy s22. If I unfortunately have to use that phone again for whatever reason I don’t actually crave iMessage or even think about it or the colors. I simply text. Or use Snapchat. Instagram. Messenger. WhatsApp. Telegram.
Oh my god…the same way I do now on both my iPhone 11 and 15 pm. So yes this really is android issue.
Oh my god…the same way I do now on both my iPhone 11 and 15 pm. So yes this really is android issue.
Yes that may have been a thing when the iPhone was carrier exclusive. In 2007.
It’s almost 2024. Every carrier down to the cheapest of prepaid carriers like boost mobile have iPhones.
Quote this next time Tim brags about inclusion and/or tolerance.
Apple made a mistake here and it was a small company that lured them into it… unbelievable.
Apple made a mistake here and it was a small company that lured them into it… unbelievable.
Lmao because inclusion based on race, gender and sexuality is the same as allowing android users the ability to use iMessage.
Y’all are ridiculous.
I would say both alternative apps and more apps that use the Apple messaging protocols. Ultimately, all messaging services should be fully interoperable without losing functionality or having different bubble colours so that some can discriminate against others.
Their CEO said "I believe I'm on the right side of the law" and pointed to a copyright carveout for reverse engineering, and said "There's no Apple code in Beeper Mini" and said he believes "It would be too difficult for Apple to cut Beeper off without also breaking iMessages for legions of genuine Apple Devices."
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
This guy got $16 million dollars in funding for this crap. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of MacRumors forum users on Tuesday were saying that Apple was going to kill this off. I know I did, and I pointed to how Apple did the same thing, repeatedly, with Palm when they reverse engineered iTunes to sync their WebOS phones with it.
You think you reverse engineered their system? Good luck playing cat and mouse with them over that. They built the damn system, and they have some of the most brilliant engineers on this planet. In the meantime, your users aren't going to be happy about losing access, and even if you find a way to restore it, Apple will just shut it down again. Even if this continues, Apple has more resources than you to shut it down repeatedly. And users aren't going to keep paying for something that is this broken.
How are there not consultants telling these investors and CEOs this stuff? Probably what happened is this CEO saw a chance at a viral breakout moment, knew it wouldn't last but saw a chance to make a quick buck off of millions of people installing his app for $2 only, and convinced a bunch of gullible old investors that this couldn't be bypassed. Foolish investors! Dude is a grifter for real. Hope Google Play has a good refund policy that users can take advantage of, but most people probably won't because that's the nature of how this grift works. People are too lazy to jump through the hoops to do that, or think "Ehh, it was only $2" and move on with their life. It's like mail-in rebates. People think "Oh this is a good price" with the rebate but only 5% take the time to fill out the form and buy a stamp and mail it in.
I hope the 16 year old who found this vulnerability got a nice payday from this, and I hope that Apple gives this kid an internship. This is the kind of brilliant mind they can pay to research vulnerabilities for them all day every day.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
This guy got $16 million dollars in funding for this crap. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of MacRumors forum users on Tuesday were saying that Apple was going to kill this off. I know I did, and I pointed to how Apple did the same thing, repeatedly, with Palm when they reverse engineered iTunes to sync their WebOS phones with it.
You think you reverse engineered their system? Good luck playing cat and mouse with them over that. They built the damn system, and they have some of the most brilliant engineers on this planet. In the meantime, your users aren't going to be happy about losing access, and even if you find a way to restore it, Apple will just shut it down again. Even if this continues, Apple has more resources than you to shut it down repeatedly. And users aren't going to keep paying for something that is this broken.
How are there not consultants telling these investors and CEOs this stuff? Probably what happened is this CEO saw a chance at a viral breakout moment, knew it wouldn't last but saw a chance to make a quick buck off of millions of people installing his app for $2 only, and convinced a bunch of gullible old investors that this couldn't be bypassed. Foolish investors! Dude is a grifter for real. Hope Google Play has a good refund policy that users can take advantage of, but most people probably won't because that's the nature of how this grift works. People are too lazy to jump through the hoops to do that, or think "Ehh, it was only $2" and move on with their life. It's like mail-in rebates. People think "Oh this is a good price" with the rebate but only 5% take the time to fill out the form and buy a stamp and mail it in.
I hope the 16 year old who found this vulnerability got a nice payday from this, and I hope that Apple gives this kid an internship. This is the kind of brilliant mind they can pay to research vulnerabilities for them all day every day.
Cutting off unauthorized access to a private server should not be used against Apple by any reasonable regulators.
Choice and openness are not always good. We pay experts to eliminate choices, so we can concentrate on the things we care about.
Of course it was an exploit. They were able to fraudulently obtain authentication.
If this had been a neighbor who decided to profit off you having your own cable channel and found a way to tap into your set up, and then charge other people to use a reversed engineered app, most of you would be singing a different tune. Since it is Apple, many seem to think Apple should allow it to continue. That is really messed up thinking.
It’s pretty funny how anxious some android users get over not having blue bubbles. Who cares.