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Apple Reinstates Epic Games EU Developer Account, Paving the Way for Alternative App Store
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I didn't say they were, did I? But you said "unjust rules don't have to be followed". You didn't specify what TYPES of unjust rules. Guess you should've been more specific, because now it just looks like the only rules you think are unjust are just the ones YOU don't like. If the "unjustness" of a rule is up to the discretion of each and every individual person, then you will find people trying to avoid following every single rule we have, because someone somewhere, will have a rule they think is "unjust".
Fellow Americans, please listen. Your willingness to be subjugated by big corporations will ruin the world. For what absurd reason do you think that Apple should be allowed to behave as a bully just because is rich and powerful? When I buy an iPhone with my own hard earned money, the iPhone is my property. I should be allowed to install on it whatever I want and not only what Apple concedes because it satisfies their greed. I really wish that all those here claiming that Apple is right are doing so because they own a vast amount of Apple shares. Otherwise it’s very difficult to understand your reasoning.
As a developer i can agree, under DMA Gatekeepers are mandated to create SDK's(software support) for usage of their OS and creation of rival products, now whether or not it should be paid usage or free will be determined within next few months, i personally thing its not allowed to charge usage but many agree, so il just let EU Commission speak for themselves in upcoming months.
The problem with your argument is that Apple claims that they need to be paid for SDK tools and resources but then charges some of the largest companies on the platform absolutely nothing for that access and makes the rules about what triggers a commission arbitrary and capricious...
Yes, but it is in principle possible to create iOS apps without using Apple’s tooling, if only you could then sideload them. I would have no particular qualms about Apple asking money for using their tooling, if they don’t at the same time force you to use their tooling.
I don't know either, I actually can see the point though, if I create an SDK and want to charge for it that is reasonable. I think Apple's arguments are nonsense because they clearly don't care about being paid. If they cared they would have long ago got rid of the reader exemption and exemptions for Apps that make wild amounts of money selling physical goods.
They create the App store and any willing developer can publish their own apps/games into their store, also Epic can publish their own products into their store.
Current rules for Epic Store are unknown as it is still being developed, but i would be surprised if they offered absolutelly free usage for pay to buy type of apps.
We will probably know a lot more info about it in upcoming months closer to its release.
Currently Epic charges 12% of sales for their PC games store, so it might be somewhere around that number.
And when the side-loaded app you installed breaks the phone enough that Apple staff either need to walk you through restoring the phone or restore it for you at a Genius Bar appointment, who pays Apple staff for that? Because I don't think the EU's mandated two-year product warranty magically goes away when the customer breaks your device because the EU mandated side loading.
I'd imagine the PR team, the Legal team and the project team are dreading tomorrows meeting.
This was a disaster for Apple. Now they look weak after being forced into a very embarrassing climb down. Other countries will be looking at that carefully. They probably should have kept their powder dry and gone nuclear over something they had a chance of winning.
I suspect Epic may still manage to screw it up though, based on what I've read about them over the last few days.
This was a disaster for Apple. Now they look weak after being forced into a very embarrassing climb down. Other countries will be looking at that carefully. They probably should have kept their powder dry and gone nuclear over something they had a chance of winning.
I suspect Epic may still manage to screw it up though, based on what I've read about them over the last few days.
You seem to be under the illusion that every country operates like the US.
Because this law doesn’t stop gatekeeping? It’s entire intent is to allow gatekeeping, but sets some rules around what can happen inside the walls so long as the rules are followed. It’s a handout to other rich people, like Tim Sweeney.
Do you have so little faith in Apple's skills to create a phone OS that will not break by merely launching a user mode app?
This has the same probability of happening as it does when downloading any relatively unknown developer's app from the App Store uploaded using the same hiding techniques used by the many malware apps that are often uploaded there. That is, it either always happens or it doesn't l, and the security is handled at the OS level. Meaning, if that were to happen then iOS was never as secure as Apple would lead you to believe.
If you want to build a truly alternative store you buy your own property, build you own building, and do whatever you want. If you want to have the government force your competitor to grant you the right to build a store within their store, you are probably going to have to follow a few more rules.
Probably a power play by Apple - “look we can still block you” - knowing full well the EU would intervene. Now they get to say to the EU, “fine, we’ll trust them, but if they break faith again, they’re banned!!” - now Apple just have to wait for Epic not to pay their bills (which they probably won’t) and they can go straight to forever ban (as this is already the “second chance”)
Are you surprised the EU would have a problem with this? At this very moment I can shop any or all of Target, Walmart, Kroger, Meijer, Best Buy, Amazon, etc. In the digital world, the way it works today is that I can only shop at the stores Apple has approved to be in their strip mall. I can't also go shop at stores in the other part of town because my "Apple money" doesn't work there. Similarly, since Apple decides which businesses can be in their strip mall, Apple can prevent people who shop at their strip mall from being able to buy a business's goods or services. If Target doesn't want to sell my potato chips, I can reach Target customers through other stores those same people shop at. Apple's customers effectively can't shop at other stores and businesses can essentially be completely cutoff from access to those consumers. I can readily imagine that the EU would take a dim view of that.
This argument is so old. If you don't like the provisions of the DMA, why don't you move out of the EU? Same logic.
A spin almost worthy of Comical Ali https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf
No, this is a disaster for Apple.
How does this, specifically, benefit citizens?
Part of that is because of the lack of developer support. You can't invest a lot in a platform if it doesn't have a lot of users, and users won't buy it if there isn't a lot of third-party software support.
Palm, Nokia and BlackBerry had much more minimal OSes. They didn't have millions of third party apps that people have become dependent on. They were fixed function devices more than general purpose computers.
Microsoft and Apple have been dominant in desktop OSes for decades now. Linux, less so, but Linux can also run on the same hardware that Windows can. I just have a hard time seeing that dominance changing within the next couple of decades. Yeah, Sony's dominance in portable music players and Nokia's dominance in phones was overcome, but those were single function devices and not vast ecosystems.
It's really not. Apple is giving Epic another chance and the EU is witness to it. If Epic blows it, there's no way the EU can [in good faith] defend Epic. Apple just painted Epic and the EU into a corner.
Because after you leave Target you're not locked into going back to target for all of you retail store needs for the rest of your life. It's called monopoly power. Apple has it, Target doesn't.
It has been possible to choose a default browser long before this EU mayhem. This just brings that feature to the forefront.
I've noticed that some Apple apps still open Safari even if I have DuckDuckGo set as my default, so hopefully Apple can rectify that. That's what p'd me off about Internet Explorer on Windows. Even if Chrome was set as the default browser, some MS apps, such as Outlook, continued to open up links in Explorer. Super annoying.