I beg people, look up apple’s financials… they do 90 billion in Europe, about 22% of apples revenue is services, so at most 20 billion… they would give up 70 billion in revenue to save 20 billion? You think that would be sensible?
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Apple Reinstates Epic Games EU Developer Account, Paving the Way for Alternative App Store
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Yet ironically the EU person for the Single Market is advocating for consolidation within the Telco Market and reducing the number of suppliers. Apparently the Telco Market (where he used to work) has been pushing for this for some time.
Apparently they aren't making enough money to be able to invest in next gen telco equipment. ie Consumers are not paying them enough and need to pay more, but due to competition then the prices kept down.
What is there for Epic to blow? They have their store and they do not need Apple for anything. The only contention is the CTF (per install fee). According to Vestager, DMA will have a discussion with each gatekeeper to go over their proposals and tell them where they are doing wrong. Once Apple is told where they are wrong and they correct their proposal, Epic has nothing that needs Apple's permission.
Or… Apple received the assurances they wanted and a politician took credit.
Yup epic is digging themselves in a hole and the next time they breach the contract or agreement no one is going to save them.
More like they were made to change their mind. I do not think it was voluntary.
No. They backtracked. No assurances were required or given. Pure capitulation.
Simple, because there is more than one factor that goes into the decision making process. I want an open device, and I also want to be able to communicate with family using iMessage. Guess what? I can't get a device that does both.
It's like asking "why would you vote for politician A when politician B agrees with you on issue W?" Well, it's because I agree with politician A on X,Y, and Z.
It's like going to a dealership looking for a pickup truck and all they have is sports cars and minivans.
Possible even better iPhone security as more eyes on Apps and App stores there is more holes and security issues will be looked at.
Postive spin
maybe 🤷♂️
Postive spin
maybe 🤷♂️
You do realize that civilization began with the smartphone, right?
Humans were helpless prior to the iPhone!
I’m surprised we did not go extinct before Steve delivered us from our helplessness 😂
Oh no, the humanity!
Jensend couldn’t get the perfect device FOR HIM. Thus, we should all thank the EU that Jensend will now be able to play Fortnite AND use iMessage.
Thank you, EU! 😂
Yes look at that baddy EU just forcing Apple to bend the knee!
Now you can play Fortnite (someday) — just don’t make Schweeny mad and download it every year or he might need to pay .50.
All your V-Bucks belong to Schweeny 😂
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I don't think, that you're an apple hater, but even you'd be one, that's not my business. however I think you're not an app developer and did not previously tried to sell any digital goods in the app store or on other platforms.
if that'd be so simple, all closed down systems (smart TVs, smart monitors, car entertainment systems, set top boxes, smart fridges and other digital-marketplace dependent electronic devices, games consoles, game stores) should be transformed to accept alternative marketplaces. as an EU citizen I might pass on that, but I wish you good luck waiting for this to happen.
I don't think, that you're an apple hater, but even you'd be one, that's not my business. however I think you're not an app developer and did not previously tried to sell any digital goods in the app store or on other platforms.
In fact, if I were Apple I’d setup some shell companies to build games just like this. You can test his dedication to “developers”!
Looks like Apple and Google are going to
Why? The CTF and Per-install fees are not going to fly. Then Epic does not have to pay Apple anything as involving Apple in any form in deciding who opens the Appstore and how revenues are shared is a no no.
There can be no conditions for Alt Appstores. Any conditions now in place will be removed after DMA starts the discussion with Apple.
Correct - nor should there be
What business does Apple have trying to dictate what goes on in 3rd party App Stores?
Get rekt Apple
My goodness they are way out over their skis
With a 71% profit margin on services vs 37% on product. The services are way more profitable then the hardware, call it roughly twice.
And products share of revenue dropped in Europe 6% whilst Services share grew 9% Services will continue to grow and become a larger percentage of Apples revenue and Apple makes much better profit on Services.
So Services not only will make a larger share of the revenue but every dollar of product only make 37% profit whereas every dollar service is 71%. profit.
And if people all start using the alt payment and stores and if not whats the point of it then those lucrative services revenues will drop.
You also taking away Apples key differentiation that it is a closed system, If going to turn into an Android Clone then why would people buy Apple over Android so further loss of revenue. If I am going to have an open mobile ecosystem forced on me I figure I may as well save the money and buy Android. If not buying iPhones will they buy the other Apple Hardware so further drop in revenue. If less iPhones then general Apple Pay revenue drop as well so further loss of profitable revenue. I pay where can with the phone these days with the Apple Wallet/Apple Pay.
Starts to look a lot less attractive market.
Ask Mac Pro users how Apple will drop something if not making the money they want too. Mac Pro forum mainly 5,1
This analogy makes no sense.
If Target is the Apple App Store, then the whole point of this is to be able to create another store like Walmart or some local store to sell goods (apps) at instead of forcing everyone to shop at Target. At the same time, this does nothing to stop Target from still selling their goods and having their own policies. They can still set their own prices and limit what they sell. What they can’t do is force everyone to shop at Target.
Once you have bought the iPhone, then who controls it? I’d say the consumer. The EU seems to agree.
Yes.
Yes but a smartphone isn’t.
Yes. Windows does that better than any smartphone .
Some people only have a flip phone. This silly hyperbolic discussion is just that. No one needs a smartphone to survive in modern times.
Agreed
Why on Earth are people making an argument that Apple still gets to control their phone after they bought it?
Yes, let them be “rekt”!
You should also delete all Apple software and iOS from your phone immediately to show them how “rekt” they are!
That will show them who the f “owns” your iPhone.
Don’t let the bad Apple control you.
If you’re not willing to do this, then my goodness, I feel ashamed for you 😳