Apple Releases Bootcamp 1.3

Erendiox said:
Stupid question... if you've installed Bootcamp already, can you install this update without going through the whole windows installation all over again?
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Yes. BootCamp is nothing but drivers and a bootloader (+ pref pane for startup). Windows is nothing but some files on a separate partition on your hdd. The two have very little to do with one another :) . Just burn a cd and install the drivers.
 
So, the BIG QUESTION for me is: Do we FINALLY get s-video out support for the video drivers? I will test in an hour when I get off work.
 
This will hopefully silence all rumor mongers who have been propagandizing "native Windows virtualization in Leopard."
 
inkswamp said:
Which, in my experience, aren't worth the effort. If an app (including games) is good enough, it makes it over to the Mac.
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Whoa, no offence but which planet are you beaming from? How about Half-Life 2? Or the Grand Theft Auto series... there are so many awesome games out there that ARE good enough, but haven't been ported to Mac.

Frankly I believe that Windows on the Mac is a saviour for Apple's marketshare. If it weren't for Bootcamp, I wouldn't even consider buying another Mac.
 
PCMacUser said:
Whoa, no offence but which planet are you beaming from? How about Half-Life 2? Or the Grand Theft Auto series... there are so many awesome games out there that ARE good enough, but haven't been ported to Mac.

Frankly I believe that Windows on the Mac is a saviour for Apple's marketshare. If it weren't for Bootcamp, I wouldn't even consider buying another Mac.
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Now Parallels has 3D support (just released version 3) I think people with enough RAM, and lower demands will switch to virtualization :)
 
Good to see another update, and not surprising what with the latest MBP update, however I question the future of Boot Camp as well, what with the significant progress Parallels has been making, most recently with the 3D support and such within version 3. That being said, this is still technically Boot Camp beta so who knows if there will be significant changes to the full release which will be included with Leopard - I guess we will find out more next week.

For me though, shutting down and rebooting to go into another OS is a bit of a pain. Utilizing virtualization, if done successfully (which I would say Parallels has done very well) is definitely preferrable to me.
 
e12a said:
any idea if these "video" drivers include the ol x1600..not just the 8600?
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They've included those drivers since the beginning. They haven't seemed to have updated them though. They might have this time. I doubt it though.
 
Erendiox said:
Stupid question... if you've installed Bootcamp already, can you install this update without going through the whole windows installation all over again?
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Not a stupid question, but it is answered on Apple's bootcamp page. You just have to read it.
 
Bloody hell.

I just finished downloading it from the link on the MR main page, and when I went to install, it said it was BootCamp 1.2! Re-download, and it's properly 1.3. At least I have a reasonably speedy Internet connection.
 
~Shard~ said:
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For me though, shutting down and rebooting to go into another OS is a bit of a pain. Utilizing virtualization, if done successfully (which I would say Parallels has done very well) is definitely preferrable to me.
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It is a pain, but I can envision situations where a virtualized OS may not be seen as a full client on the network. In such a case, access to resources, like proxy servers, might be restricted. Also, having the full resources of the machine is often preferable to sharing with a host OS. There are trade-offs, but it will all depend on the situation.

I will say this...it reboots into Windows XP fairly quickly.
 
~Shard~ said:
Good to see another update, and not surprising what with the latest MBP update, however I question the future of Boot Camp as well, what with the significant progress Parallels has been making, most recently with the 3D support and such within version 3. That being said, this is still technically Boot Camp beta so who knows if there will be significant changes to the full release which will be included with Leopard - I guess we will find out more next week.

For me though, shutting down and rebooting to go into another OS is a bit of a pain. Utilizing virtualization, if done successfully (which I would say Parallels has done very well) is definitely preferrable to me.
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I'm with you. I just ponied up for the new parallels release. I love my mac, but my work is in .Net developing software that only runs on windows. It is useful to have virtualization at home that allows me to work on windows stuff remotely when I need to.

What I don't want is to reboot every couple of minutes to switch between work and e-mail, etc. Parallels does a great job.
 
I would like to see an easier way to get the updated drivers directly into windows. Perhaps through the Apple Software Update app that installs with iTunes?
 
Eidorian said:
Updated video drivers, meaning "We added the MBP ones but didn't touch any other ones".
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That's what I'm worried about. I really hope that this issue is on the list of things they plan to implement (assuming these "updated" drivers are not actually changed).
 
inkswamp said:
/hugs GameCube.

Apple and Nintendo... keeping my home Microsoft-free for over a decade now. :)



Which, in my experience, aren't worth the effort. If an app (including games) is good enough, it makes it over to the Mac. I love when Windows users slam Macs for a lack of games. To be clear, it's a lack of second-tier games that most people really don't give a crap about.

But, where I see Windows on a Mac being especially useful is in business settings, especially where you have mixed-platform work environments. I'm hoping I can talk my employer into letting me getting a new Mac with Parallels soon, so I can dump my PC and go back to having one computer.
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Steam certainly isn't available for the mac, and there are at least 10 top-tier games on there. A few of those games have won game of the year. It's acceptable to boot both, people's decisions are their own to make.

I'm glad that you "love" when PC users slam mac users for the quality of games, but you just did the same thing. And a LOT of games aren't available on the mac, about the only good ones (that perform *the same* as their windows counterparts) are Blizzard games.

Company of heroes, C&C3, FEAR, Stalker, Oblivion, IL2, Supreme Commander, Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, Battlefield2 & 2142, AoE3, LOTR Online, TF2/Portal (in the fall), Halo2, Theatre of War, Silent Hunter, Galactic Civilizations, Vanguard, Gothic, EQ2, Total War, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Sid Meiers games, X3, Flight Sim X, and the Steam Games: HL2, Episode 1, Episode 2, Counter Strike, Counter Strike Source, Day of Defeat&Source/Red Orchestra (through steam), Team Fortress, Deathmatch Classic, Hl1, HL2DM, Garry's Mod, Thief, Darwinia, etc. etc.

Nope, no good games. Really, be open-minded. They're just computers, and games are just entertainment. Seriously.

Also you're blatantly wrong that most people don't care about those games. Plenty of them have won game of the year, Company of Heroes was one of the highest rated games (and the highest-ever rated RTS) of last year.

Steam itself has more than 13 MILLION Accounts. That's more than the amount of Macs Apple will sell throughout the entire 2007 year.

Also you can't run an 8800gtx through OSX, and with a 30" Display even the 1900xt gets a bit old in the tooth with modern games (I have a maxed Quad Core 3GHz Mac Pro).


On topic, when the hell is Apple going to release bootcamp support 64-bit Vista. It's been 5 months, come on.
 
conshok26 said:
it says improved graphics driver...does anyone know if this could help the my heat issue i have with vista on my MBP which causes it to shut off when it gets hot?
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Looks like you got the Random Shutdown Syndrome (RSS). Lots of Early Macbooks have it. The problem is the heatpipe that transports the heat from the processor to the fan expands and basically shortens the logic board. A safety mechanism then "pulls the plug" and off goes the power. If you restart your machine instantly after it powers off, it should power off very fast again since the heatpipe is still hot and expanded.

Apple fixed that by shipping a new heatpipe, actually the same as before but it has some isolation tape on it so it won't cause shorts when it touches the logic board. If you're still under warranty or Apple Care, bring it to an Apple Store and they will fix it. There has also been a firmware update that disables the power-off feature so the computer stays on, but maybe it does not work under windows. Anyway, take it to the shop.
 
Can I upgrade my XP to Vista in my partition?

Is it possible to upgrade my XP partition to Vista? Or would I have to start from the beginning and lose all of my files? Knowing this would save me a lot of time.
 
inkswamp said:
/hugs GameCube.

Apple and Nintendo... keeping my home Microsoft-free for over a decade now. :)



Which, in my experience, aren't worth the effort. If an app (including games) is good enough, it makes it over to the Mac. I love when Windows users slam Macs for a lack of games. To be clear, it's a lack of second-tier games that most people really don't give a crap about.

But, where I see Windows on a Mac being especially useful is in business settings, especially where you have mixed-platform work environments. I'm hoping I can talk my employer into letting me getting a new Mac with Parallels soon, so I can dump my PC and go back to having one computer.
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UPS Worldship. UPS refuses to create Worldship for Mac users. I use it for my Ebay and refuse to go with another shipper right now.
Now, in MY effort to remove microsoft from the house, please feel free to share your ideas for getting an employer to let you get a mac. I want my husband to get a new Macbook Pro for work REALLY bad. They use Toshibas. Ewww.
 
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