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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
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Anyone Using an MBP With a DVI Switchbox?
I could not get my Core Duo MBP to work in closed lid mode with my Avocent Switchview DVI.
I posted more detailed information here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2983352#post2983352
But I am curious if there are other MBP users who are successfully using it in closed lid mode through a switchbox at a resolution of 1920x1200.
TIA!
Rich
I could not get my Core Duo MBP to work in closed lid mode with my Avocent Switchview DVI.
I posted more detailed information here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2983352#post2983352
But I am curious if there are other MBP users who are successfully using it in closed lid mode through a switchbox at a resolution of 1920x1200.
TIA!
Rich
Beau said:
indeed, and there I got my hopes up. So how do they compare: LMR vs PMR? thoughts?
-mike
Access speed is slightly faster in lmr, but data is spaced out slightly further.
Access time in pmr is slower towards the center (I believe) but has higher bit density.
The 160 is probably slightly higher speed, but it is a VERY slight difference. The biggest difference is that it is a 2.0-2.2 bel unit, so the 160gb drive should be signifigantly more quiet, but who cares about that since the mac has such good internal noise control both are equiv.
In the end, do you need the size? If so get the 160. If you need it now, get the 120. If you need both, get an external 500gb drive on that fw800 and be happy!
Anyone know a cheap fw800 case?
Access time in pmr is slower towards the center (I believe) but has higher bit density.
The 160 is probably slightly higher speed, but it is a VERY slight difference. The biggest difference is that it is a 2.0-2.2 bel unit, so the 160gb drive should be signifigantly more quiet, but who cares about that since the mac has such good internal noise control both are equiv.
In the end, do you need the size? If so get the 160. If you need it now, get the 120. If you need both, get an external 500gb drive on that fw800 and be happy!
Anyone know a cheap fw800 case?
I guess I'll just never be able to decide between glossy and matte, and just will end up never buying my new computer. This sucks - I can't make a decision. I like the way glossy looks, but I've read some stuff on the eye-strain, and that sorta worries me as my eyes are easily strained. I've sat a matte and glossy side by side, and I just loe the way glossy works. I can't decide.
tarjan said:Access speed is slightly faster in lmr, but data is spaced out slightly further.
Access time in pmr is slower towards the center (I believe) but has higher bit density.
The 160 is probably slightly higher speed, but it is a VERY slight difference. The biggest difference is that it is a 2.0-2.2 bel unit, so the 160gb drive should be signifigantly more quiet, but who cares about that since the mac has such good internal noise control both are equiv.
In the end, do you need the size? If so get the 160. If you need it now, get the 120. If you need both, get an external 500gb drive on that fw800 and be happy!
Anyone know a cheap fw800 case?
thanks for the info, i really wanted to hear that the difference was nigh. I found this review on tom's hardware comparing the two, it looks like the average write/read is pretty similar.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/storage25.html?modelx=33&model1=412&model2=393&chart=142
however, it is interesting to note that all the fujitsu review i've found are for the MHV2 series while the MBP's have the MHW2 series. perhaps it is very new?
EDIT: the review is useless, the MHV series is different entirely and the MHV2160 doesn't use PMR
Here's an interesting comparison between the Core Duo 2.16 GHz and the Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=c2dm&page=5
They have also benchmarked the Merom C2D against the Conroe C2D, and the T7600 performs almost as well as the E6600
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=c2dm&page=5
They have also benchmarked the Merom C2D against the Conroe C2D, and the T7600 performs almost as well as the E6600
I got my student ADC membership tuesday morning, verified as of wednesday morning, then I bought my C2D MBP through the ADC store, but never received an email about my order, is this normal? Do they have to "verify" my membership again?
I have an order number and it says est. delivery at Nov. 7th, but it's just odd that I didn't receive an email.
Any thoughts?
I have an order number and it says est. delivery at Nov. 7th, but it's just odd that I didn't receive an email.
Any thoughts?
doubledangerbat said:
I am in the EXACT same boat as you, I faxed in my stuff yesterday and was on the phone with them and they verified it and double checked my order and it said it was going out...but I my shipping hasnt changed yet...Im sure we will see something today
jv: both can be color balanced to the n'th degree. Color depiction MIGHT be better on the matte, but I havent been able to find conclusive evidence (depends on the limits set by color balancing and if the matte screen acts as a color filter, which I doubt). Matte has the advantage of being more accurate in the presence of other odd lights, due to glare reduction but I find that to be inaccurate as if I am going to do something where colors matter, I turn down the surrounding light to maximize contrast possibilities.
Truthfully though the stock screens max out at 262k colors anyway, and if I want ACCURATE colors I will switch to my westinghouse 42w2 tv set or my crt. Those are actually able to produce millions of colors and can be more accurately set where the CM panels apple puts in the macbook pro CANNOT produce millions of colors. Yes, that is a fact, it dithers to "act" like it can, thats just a trick of the eye and not real colors (6bit+2d).
Eye strain is something only you can decide on. I get strained fairly easily, but it is just from looking at something forever and has nothing to do with glossy vs matte. Sitting in an airport with lots of sunlight I would say the glossy should be BETTER than a matte because it is fairly bright.
I will say that there is a potential issue for the glossy to cause strain in one instance though, in a very dim room with the screen left on full bright. Considering the auto brightness controls, this shouldn't be an issue.
Truthfully though the stock screens max out at 262k colors anyway, and if I want ACCURATE colors I will switch to my westinghouse 42w2 tv set or my crt. Those are actually able to produce millions of colors and can be more accurately set where the CM panels apple puts in the macbook pro CANNOT produce millions of colors. Yes, that is a fact, it dithers to "act" like it can, thats just a trick of the eye and not real colors (6bit+2d).
Eye strain is something only you can decide on. I get strained fairly easily, but it is just from looking at something forever and has nothing to do with glossy vs matte. Sitting in an airport with lots of sunlight I would say the glossy should be BETTER than a matte because it is fairly bright.
I will say that there is a potential issue for the glossy to cause strain in one instance though, in a very dim room with the screen left on full bright. Considering the auto brightness controls, this shouldn't be an issue.
adiosk8 said:
Did you receive an email or any sort about your order? I haven't and I thought that was odd.
doubledangerbat said:
I did get an email about my order, the first one from the dev group stating that there was a problem with my ADC membership, so I contacted them and had to then verify that I was a student. and then not too long after that I got a email from apple about the order and that they received it, but it has not yet shipped
i just called in again and they said my order is still processing...wtf is going on...i used the student discount too...
edit- called in again and the guy said not many orders have shipped...i dunno...really thought mine would ship already, i ordered it right when the site came up...ehhhhh and that it didnt matter that it says 1-3 now cause i ordered it with it saying 2-4...so it will prolly ship tommorrow...
edit- called in again and the guy said not many orders have shipped...i dunno...really thought mine would ship already, i ordered it right when the site came up...ehhhhh and that it didnt matter that it says 1-3 now cause i ordered it with it saying 2-4...so it will prolly ship tommorrow...
128 vs. 256
Can anyone tell me if the 128 MB video cards are good enough to support an external LCD?
Can anyone tell me if the 128 MB video cards are good enough to support an external LCD?
Apple will not send your order down to shipping until the payment has cleared payment processing.
Once your payment is confirmed, then they'll send out your confirmation e-mail.
If you're in a rush, order by phone and get direct wire transfer information from your sales rep, then have your bank wire the funds with your Web Order Number, directly to Apple's account. Do not forget to post your Web Order Number on the
banks transfer documents.
Once your payment is confirmed, then they'll send out your confirmation e-mail.
If you're in a rush, order by phone and get direct wire transfer information from your sales rep, then have your bank wire the funds with your Web Order Number, directly to Apple's account. Do not forget to post your Web Order Number on the
banks transfer documents.
HBKDinobot said:
Most of this has been answered, but I'll throw in my 2¢.
I'm not sure if those pro-type applications will be affected by the GPU or not (though if you're going to use the built-in monitor to use them, a larger screen would sure help!). But Windows Vista's Aero Glass interface would definitely like the better GPU.
The educational price for OS X is around $70-80. Yes, the current Macbook Pro will fully support any 64-bit stuff on the OS X or Windows side. The next chipset mostly adds support for faster FSB speeds on the CPU I think.
For what your uses are, to me it sounds like the Macbook Pro would be a great choice. If they get updated again before May, they'll probably have slightly faster CPUs again (similar to the current speed bumps), but they'll still be Core 2s. They'll hopefully have a better GPU, but that won't matter for the things you listed you wanted it for. And they'll probably support 4 or more GB of RAM (for crazy prices).
I think there's no question a current Macbook Pro would last 3 years for most uses (except for gaming, where the GPU is already weak).
do these wait times apply to ordering from an Apple store, or just online?steve jr. said:
can you still use your educational discount at an Apple store?
MacinDoc said:
Don't go there.
For roughly the same price as a 15" Macbook Pro you can get a 17" Dell with a Geforce 7900GS. Or much cheaper for a 15" one with a worse GPU.On the other hand, I think some of the price premium is actually worth it, as AFAIK Apple uses high-quality audio components, and Dell's are junk. (I've heard hissing just watching DVDs on Dell laptops, though external sound cards are possible).
thenewguy said:
For regular apps there will be no difference at all.
I have no idea about Pro apps. In general 2D apps don't care about video RAM, but I have heard Photoshop actually uses video RAM somewhat.
For games, there will be very little difference, as the Radeon x1600 is a low end part. Adding extra RAM to a low end GPU gets you almost nothing, as the weakness is the slow GPU much more than any lack of RAM. (ie a faster GPU with 128MB beats a slower GPU with 512MB, even using settings that supposedly recommend 512MB).
Personally I think the base model bumped up to 2GB is the better value.