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I've been testing the betas since beta 1, and honestly, I am not a big fan. And before anyone chimes in, yes I've been sending in feedback.

I like the concept of the new interface and appreciate Apple recognizing that the current UI is getting a bit stale, but the execution has not been great. There is still a huge lack of contrast b/w foreground and background apps, the transparent menubar still bugs the hell out of me, and certain app icons still look very amateurish. On top of that, there are a ton of technical changes behind the hood that will break a fair number apps (at least at the beginning). I'm not complaining about those technical changes by any means, some of them are really important and will increase security and stability of the OS (such as depreciating kernel extensions), but there are going to be a lot of growing pains with this OS. Also, I'm still bitter that Apple is getting rid of the "Network Utility" program. I know all of it's features are available via the Terminal, but Network Utility was (and still is) a really convenient place to access all of these tools and it has a great interface.

As it stands, I will definitely NOT be upgrading when it is first released, and I'm honestly not sure when I will upgrade. I usually wait until at least .0.1; but with the interface changes and various programs needing to be updated, I have a feeling I will be sticking with Catalina for a while longer.
 
I've been testing the betas since beta 1, and honestly, I am not a big fan. And before anyone chimes in, yes I've been sending in feedback.

I like the concept of the new interface and appreciate Apple recognizing that the current UI is getting a bit stale, but the execution has not been great. There is still a huge lack of contrast b/w foreground and background apps, the transparent menubar still bugs the hell out of me, and certain app icons still look very amateurish. On top of that, there are a ton of technical changes behind the hood that will break a fair number apps (at least at the beginning). I'm not complaining about those technical changes by any means, some of them are really important and will increase security and stability of the OS (such as depreciating kernel extensions), but there are going to be a lot of growing pains with this OS. Also, I'm still bitter that Apple is getting rid of the "Network Utility" program. I know all of it's features are available via the Terminal, but Network Utility was (and still is) a really convenient place to access all of these tools and it has a great interface.

As it stands, I will definitely NOT be upgrading when it is first released, and I'm honestly not sure when I will upgrade. I usually wait until at least .0.1; but with the interface changes and various programs needing to be updated, I have a feeling I will be sticking with Catalina for a while longer.
sounds like you created a whole list of nitpicks. I personally love Big Sur (come on, you are really upset by an icon?)
 
Just upgraded from El Capitan to Mojave last night. I like to wait, goodbye faithful and stable friend :rolleyes:
Whatever you do, skip Catalina. It’s been so bad for me that I thought my fully-loaded (sans 1 TB SSD, 512 instead) 2015 27” iMac had massive hardware failure. It freezes up for several minutes (up to 10-15 minutes even) all the time, hard drives disconnect for no reason, it restarts due to errors, backing up to Time Capsule...just stopped, Time Machine in general runs into errors over USB as well and for the first time ever the back got corrupted last week. Catalina is an utter and complete dumpster fire that seems to get worse with each . release somehow; blows my mind. I still have Mojave installed on a partition for 32-bit apps and it runs like a dream. Similar experience on 2016 15” MacBook Pro though it’s not used as much and isn’t connected to external hard drives. I really, really hope Big Sur is a lot better than Catalina in basic usability. You know it’s incredibly sad when Windows 10 runs significantly better on my iMac than Catalina. Embarrassing.
 
I've been testing the betas since beta 1, and honestly, I am not a big fan. And before anyone chimes in, yes I've been sending in feedback.

I like the concept of the new interface and appreciate Apple recognizing that the current UI is getting a bit stale, but the execution has not been great. There is still a huge lack of contrast b/w foreground and background apps, the transparent menubar still bugs the hell out of me, and certain app icons still look very amateurish. On top of that, there are a ton of technical changes behind the hood that will break a fair number apps (at least at the beginning). I'm not complaining about those technical changes by any means, some of them are really important and will increase security and stability of the OS (such as depreciating kernel extensions), but there are going to be a lot of growing pains with this OS. Also, I'm still bitter that Apple is getting rid of the "Network Utility" program. I know all of it's features are available via the Terminal, but Network Utility was (and still is) a really convenient place to access all of these tools and it has a great interface.

As it stands, I will definitely NOT be upgrading when it is first released, and I'm honestly not sure when I will upgrade. I usually wait until at least .0.1; but with the interface changes and various programs needing to be updated, I have a feeling I will be sticking with Catalina for a while longer.
With all the issues folks report here is Mojave still more stable than Catalina?
 
I have reported this bug since the first beta!! The work around i have found is, if i hide the apps before unplugging my external display, they all come back once i plug the display back in.
Yeah that's what I sometimes do too, or I just move them to my main laptop display before disconnecting.
 
Have they fixed AD, CiscoAny Connect and Kerberos? As for Enterprise use these area must and have been broke on and off since B8.
Are those Apple apps? Usually, broken apps have to be updated by the developers. I know google had backup and synch broken for a long time because they had to fix something. They finally got around to it, and it is working great.
 
What is the version of Time Machine in macOS Big Sur 11.0.1 (20B5012d) Beta? Time Machine 1.3, or Time Machine 2.0? Thanks!
 
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I’m liking the beta but i still wish they would fix the bug with using the Apple Watch to unlock my MacBook. I tried the solution posted but its not working for me. It works great on my MacBook Air.
 
it's funny when people say that. It's like they never used that crappy windows at all. No thanks, I'll take a few minor glitches here and there (which I almost never have BTW), over a complete crap show like Windows updates

Not only that, the poster you replied to is wrong, Mojave was very stable from even the first beta, it has been Apple's best OS since Snow Leopard, it's even by far superior to SL which wasn't stable from the beginning, it even had some nasty bugs, deleting Users data.
 
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Did I miss the news that Big Sur was released??? Doesn’t the .1 beta usually follow the public release??

Nope, it's not out yet. This just means that Apple have locked GM internally, and have moved on for testing the next build. It's highly likely that we will get the GM for 11.0 in the next couple weeks, with the public release of Big Sur the week of the Silicon event (supposedly the 18th November, the day after the Silicon event).

Doesn't google have to fix that?
Nope, someone confirmed in this thread it's fixed as of this beta.
 
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Are those Apple apps? Usually, broken apps have to be updated by the developers. I know google had backup and synch broken for a long time because they had to fix something. They finally got around to it, and it is working great.
If those things don't mean anything to you I guess you don't work in an Enterprise environment with 1000's of Mac's.

AD binding and kerberos (SSO Extension) are built in to macOS. AnyConnect is Cisco and Cisco blame Apple for it not working due to the network filter and system extension.
 
I didn’t upgrade my iMac to the current Public Beta, due to the issues with Safari and YouTube. When the next Public Beta comes out can I just go to that update, or do I have to update twice?
 
I'm thinking I'm going to stay away from this update for some time. Too many big changes this year.
That's the approach I took with Catalina. I waited until maybe February, and it still isn't great. If they're going to release a new MacOS once a year, ready or not, I'm going to let other work out the bugs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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