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Apple Releases iOS 5 Beta 2 to Developers
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You have to remember this is a beta. Maybe Apple has plan for it later on to remove that requirement.
You can do your true backups to iCloud and/or to iTunes. Why is non-tethered syncing good? Because I can now keep my main itunes library on my Mac Mini server/Media Center, and never have to plug my iPhone into my entertainment center.
Or, you can do your backups via the Cloud. You didn't even need this new iOS release/iTunes beta to do that. But, someone here mentioned a 10 hour restore process for the whole thing. That would be about right (and I'd imagine similar with WiFi Syncing to iTunes). There's still a lot of value for tethered backups for fresh installs or any time there's a BIG backup or restore.
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I doubt it. At the very least the user would have to have iTunes running and the phone would have to be prompted to see if they want to associate with that iTunes. What will help though is everyone that bothers signing up for iCloud will have backups, which will be great for apple store employees. They won't have to wipe out customers data to do a restore and have it be gone for good.
cerote said:
I doubt it. At the very least the user would have to have iTunes running and the phone would have to be prompted to see if they want to associate with that iTunes. What will help though is everyone that bothers signing up for iCloud will have backups, which will be great for apple store employees. They won't have to wipe out customers data to do a restore and have it be gone for good.
The system as buggy as hell. Apps like settings, music app, etc have been crashing all together. One issue would be the low RAM on iPad 1. Hope it gets better with the final release.
In my opinion the overall system performance hasn't changed at all.
You don't seem to know what you're talking about. WiFi sync is not meant for people who don't have a computer or iTunes. And WiFi sync is only referring to music, videos, apps etc... Content.
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I haven't installed yet, but reports are they have not been fixed. Sounds like the app developers will need to issue updates for new APIs. Hopefully they will update before the official release.
martyotaku said:
I haven't installed yet, but reports are they have not been fixed. Sounds like the app developers will need to issue updates for new APIs. Hopefully they will update before the official release.
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I never said it would, not sure what you are talking about.
Matthew Yohe said:
I never said it would, not sure what you are talking about.
So you buy your fancy new iPhone 5, bring it to work/school/sportcentre (can't wait..) connect to the local WiFi, and.. Lucy claims it's her iPhone. Syncs all sorts of crap to it and views all info that you entered on your in the mean time phone (stuff that's inside the backup).
By physically connecting Apple can set up a secure and trusted connection between iTunes and your phone.
Get it ?
But you cant choose what to sync from the iPhone? E.g. If I want to add a diff album I have to walk over to my mac and plug in or update playlist???
I'd assume the implementation will be improved as time goes on. Since the iOS platform with iOS 5 will become completely untethered from the host computer, I see the implementation being via iCloud login. If a computer is logged into the same iCloud account as an iOS device, and they are both on a local Wi-Fi network, a sync will be able to take place. Obviously Apple are attempting with iOS 5 to reduce the onus on the user to backup responsibly, and deal with as much of this as possible on behalf of the user. Having both a local and cloud backup tied to an account seems like a good way to go about it.
Of course this ignores that every iOS-driven device today has had to be connected to a computer at some stage for the initial activation.
You were confused it seemed... "It won't help with that one bit. If they never synced before, why would they do the initial connection to the computer to setup wifi sync?"
Doesn't seem to me like you get it.
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It will be computer free. Meaning iCloud will backup, deliver all past purchases, etc I don't see the actual sync method changing from this beta. I expect you still have to make one tethered connection in order to say "this is the iTunes I want to sync with". Otherwise how will they manage it? If you set it up from the phone what's to keep me from just go to a random persons house and syncing all their data? Or if it is managed from the computer what is to keep me from polluting your phone with crap? Unless they add some convoluted passcode system, I see the initial wired hook up being required of you want to sync with a computer.
-Ryan- said:
It will be computer free. Meaning iCloud will backup, deliver all past purchases, etc I don't see the actual sync method changing from this beta. I expect you still have to make one tethered connection in order to say "this is the iTunes I want to sync with". Otherwise how will they manage it? If you set it up from the phone what's to keep me from just go to a random persons house and syncing all their data? Or if it is managed from the computer what is to keep me from polluting your phone with crap? Unless they add some convoluted passcode system, I see the initial wired hook up being required of you want to sync with a computer.
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Not sure if my post didnt quote it right (on my phone so I'm not going to go back and find it) but I was replying to a user saying this wireless sync will help the fact that 50% of iPhones brought into the apple store have never been synced, therefore they have no backup. I meant to imply that the wireless sync will not help with that due to still having to set it up at first. ICloud will help making sure users have backups available. Not sure if it will really help since I foresee most users that are not capable of syncing their phone, being capable of setting up iCloud. Maybe apple stores will do it for them?
Matthew Yohe said:
Not sure if my post didnt quote it right (on my phone so I'm not going to go back and find it) but I was replying to a user saying this wireless sync will help the fact that 50% of iPhones brought into the apple store have never been synced, therefore they have no backup. I meant to imply that the wireless sync will not help with that due to still having to set it up at first. ICloud will help making sure users have backups available. Not sure if it will really help since I foresee most users that are not capable of syncing their phone, being capable of setting up iCloud. Maybe apple stores will do it for them?