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Ahh, finally! Someone gets my point. Thank you!

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Wow! Not a sexist at all. Where did you get that. All I'm saying is that this color scheme is not going to appeal to men. Me included. Stop assuming I'm sexist or a homophobe because I don't like pastels. Most men don't.

People will probably stop assuming you're a homophobe, or a sexist, if you stop assuming you speak for anyone other than yourself.
 
I've seen them. Don't like them. They look too feminine for me.

You can make a statement like this, and wonder why people are classifying you as sexist, or homophobic? You don't like them, that's fine, but why do you feel you have to convince yourself that all, or even most, other men agree with you?
 
People will probably stop assuming you're a homophobe, or a sexist, if you stop assuming you speak for anyone other than yourself.

I neve said I speak for everyone. I speak for me. I know, for example, that most men prefer brighter colors to softer ones. Women prefer softer ones. This has been studied and the statistics back me up. Go look it up.
 
Science is on my side.

No, a 10 year old study of only 200 some subjects doesn't do much much to support what you're saying.

You don't speak for all men, stop acting like you do.

The fact that you're so concerned with the look of a few icons seems pretty feminine to me.
 
I posted this before, but here it is again.

http://blog.kissmetrics.com/gender-and-color/
1. Wouldn't you agree that color depends on context? For example, I like my clothes muted, but my guitar is surf green, a color I'd probably not wear at the moment, but I love it on my guitar, it looks really cool.
2. Wouldn't you agree that color preference by gender is something that is not programmed biologically inside humans? You were not born as a pastel color hater. In fact, you were raised as one. People around you told you that pastel colors are feminine, so you adapted.
3. Wouldn't you agree that these sort of preferences change over time and depend on cultural context? I don't even need to take a debatable example from the middle ages or something. Think of the 90s: The combination of pastel green, violet and yellow was the thing back then. It was everywhere. Would you say everyone was homosexual back then? Probably not.
 
This update is depressing.

This update makes me sad. This is a major step away from the Apple that innovated and led the way. The design is so....um.....Microsoftish. I really can't believe the amount wrong decisions that had to happen for this UI to be released.

I'm sad. I had hoped that Apple would forge ahead without Steve but this seems that they did a U-turn and followed others. I hope they don't continue done the boardroom/committee design path.

I hope handwriting recognition works, because it's on the wall.
 
You can make a statement like this, and wonder why people are classifying you as sexist, or homophobic? You don't like them, that's fine, but why do you feel you have to convince yourself that all, or even most, other men agree with you?

never said all. Go educate yourself on color theory and get back to me.

Also, I never said anything about anyone's sexual preference in connection to this point. Stop trying to connect it to me.
 
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1500 replies. I wonder what most of them are, cause I'm sure as hell not reading through them.

I can't get the update to download.
I hate the new iOS.
I love the new iOS.
Johnny Ive should be fired.
Steve Jobs would never have allowed this.
When are people going to stop using the "Steve Jobs...?"
Too much white.
Too "girly."
Who are you to speak for all men?
Looks like Ive is a fan of the Easter Bunny.
Loving some of the new features.
iMessage is too white and too crowded.
Shut-up.
Steve Jobs...

That pretty much sums it up:)
 
1. Wouldn't you agree that color depends on context? For example, I like my clothes muted, but my guitar is surf green, a color I'd probably not wear at the moment, but I love it on my guitar, it looks really cool.
2. Wouldn't you agree that color preference by gender is something that is not programmed biologically inside humans? You were not born as a pastel color hater. In fact, you were raised as one. People around you told you that pastel colors are feminine, so you adapted.
3. Wouldn't you agree that these sort of preferences change over time and depend on cultural context? I don't even need to take a debatable example from the middle ages or something. Think of the 90s: The combination of pastel green, violet and yellow was the thing back then. It was everywhere. Would you say everyone was homosexual back then? Probably not.

There you go again with the reference to sexual orientation. I never said anything about anyone's sexual orientation. This is a color preference difference between genders. Why do you think I am making any generalities about gay people? Stop it.
 
Generally I find iOS7 pretty harsh on the eyes, i'm trying my best to find a wallpaper that makes app text readable but failing, and of course the icons are horrible. The main things I would like to see improved in future updates would be the use of black backgrounds instead of white and the toning-down/removal of the bottom app-bar/dock.

Perhaps light/dark theme options would be a good idea for those of us who don't want to feel like headlights are being shined in our eyes every time we look at our phones.

Overall I find all the related apps/screens much harder to use now due to the information being less clear and all looking so uniform. I haven't really found anything really useful yet, the torch is about the best thing so far.;)

The frosted glass effect just seems like a bit of a skeuomorphic gimmick really, much like it was in Vista, so perhaps an option to turn this off too would be nice.

I think Jonny wanted to do minimal but compromised too much and got carried away with effects, and basically just ended up with a bit of a mess.
 
You can make a statement like this, and wonder why people are classifying you as sexist, or homophobic? You don't like them, that's fine, but why do you feel you have to convince yourself that all, or even most, other men agree with you?

Whether you like it or not, it doesn't have anything to do with being sexist or homophobic to consider something feminine. Odors, colors, even shapes (for ex. cars), materials... styles are all often seen as masculine/feminine/neutral/old/young/eccentric/modern. Doesn't mean it HAS to be that way, but it's a matter of what you've come to associate based on what you see and experience yourself.

I tend to think that very bright busy floral curtains are better suited to my grandparents rather than a young professional. It's just an association that comes from what you've seen in your own experience.
 
So I updated my iPhone 5 just fine. Problem is that anything web based will not respond...safari, iTunes Store, but I can call and text just fine. Anyone else have this? This is over wifi, and 3G as well.
 
conflicted

I wanted to like the update but I don't think I do.

-maybe it will grow on me

I definitely don't like the folder setup. You get a 3 by 3 of icons for 9 apps on a page. Since the folder takes up the whole screen, then why not use the whole screen for icons instead of having two pages? (not sure how many apps can be in the folder)
 
I'll say this, the new iPhoto looks nice, but it's an absolute teetotal trainwreck of lag and seems to fight against me more than...you know...do what I want it to do.

Want to email myself a picture? All I have to do is hit the menu button...

...wait (literally) 6 to 10 seconds for it to pop up...

...and there it goes. Now I can press the

Want to set a wallpaper? I might as well just start punching myself in the face now. It's more productive, and won't lag everything outfor 15 seconds.

I'm have such mixed feelings about this "upgrade". The UI does have it's nice moments, but I feel like it's hobbled my iPad. Everything seems to have a half second lag that wasn't there before. Nothing feels as immediate as it did in iOS6.

And the multitasker. The UI itself is one of the things I like best about the upgrades. It's simple and elegant in a way the old setup never was. What I don't like is doing the 4 finger swipe up...

...waiting 4 seconds...

...then having it appear on my screen. One thing I could say about the old one, it worked right when you wanted it to. The animation was timed so well with the gesture, it looked like you were pushing up the screen. This? At least as far as response time goes, it doesn't compare.

Overall, I am not impressed. It looks great in places (even if the new settings icon looks kinda sinister), but the lag, and the jitter, and the overall not-smooth-at-alls blunts any good first impressions I might've had.
 
No, a 10 year old study of only 200 some subjects doesn't do much much to support what you're saying.

You don't speak for all men, stop acting like you do.

The fact that you're so concerned with the look of a few icons seems pretty feminine to me.

That is only one study. I have been educated in color theory as well as design, art history, and many other subjects in regards to art. I never said I speak for all men. If you would go educate yourself on the subject before calling me wrong or bigoted just because you like the color scheme, maybe we could have a civil conversation.
 
Working perfectly here. I experienced a few hiccups when trying to update but I'm really enjoying iOS7 on my 4S. No slow down here at all.

Hm, that's odd. When I try to enter the 4 digits to unlock the screen on my iPhone 4, it takes about 10 sec until something happens. When I try to type an iMessage, nothing happens for 10-20 sec, then all characters appear in a spurt, followed by 10-20 sec where my iPhone is dead. I already rebooted it multiple times and have no other apps running.
 
There you go again with the reference to sexual orientation. I never said anything about anyone's sexual orientation. This is a color preference difference between genders. Why do you think I am making any generalities about gay people? Stop it.
Okay then. But you ignored everything else.
 
Snow Blindness

OK.... So I've had ios7 for about an hour....

I'm not sure if I like it or hate it...

It certainly feels "clean" and it took a good 30 min for my eyes to get used to the whiteout effect of this color scheme.

My first impression was "yuk" but I'm getting used to it... So for the time being I'm not sure.... I have to say that I was expecting to be wowed in a slightly different manner.

I did use Skype and the keyboard has not changed there .... Still the ios6 style and color. Is this normal?

I truly hope that the new style will continue to grow on me.... Will have to wait and see.
 

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