Apple Releases iOS 8.0.2 With Fix for Cellular Issues, Broken Touch ID

[appleii.c]

I dont know why ipad air or ipad mini users are saying its completely smooth. But for me, ipad mini retina, its definitely still laggy on 8.0.2. Closing apps stutters (yea, its a split second but annoying as it keeps doing it), opening app switcher stutters, etc after extended use. It was COMPLETELY smooth on 7.1.2, but it's definitely not in 8.0.2. Its making me mad that people havent used the updated software for extended period of time and report, giving false informaation.

I can't comment on the iPad air or mini, but I have an older iPad (the iPad 3) and installed 8 on it and it's pretty smooth. One thing I had to do back with the 7 release though, is to turn off the moving background (the parallax effects). I think they were in the accessibility setting... cant remember exactly where now. But that was definitely making it laggy.

 

[C DM]

Since I'm tried myself I won't believe something like that. You most probably sat on it and don't remember that.

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Are you saying that the iPhone bends just by USING IT ??? that's utterly ridiculous

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40k over more than 10 millions sold ? A negligible number according to statistics.
It's annoying it you are among those 40k, but nothing more.

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So the act of texting bends you iPhone. Now you are more credible ...

Just because 40,000 is a small percentage doesn't make it a small number, nor does it have anything to do with te level of how problematic an issue is for those people.

 

[D.T.]

OK, our iPhone 5 and iPad 4th gen are both working great with 8.0.2, and the WiFi seems greatly improved.

Not just external throughput via Speedtest, but on the internal network - I was playing Minecraft with my Little G, and the device-to-device connection had tons of latency (from the top/far corner bedroom), but now it’s running in “real time” after the x.2 update.

 

[TallManNY]

I had the same issue initially with iCloud account.
If you restored from older iPhone backup then just try deleting the iCloud account from settings and re-creating it. Before doing that make sure you are not behind any VPN or firewall. May be enter the password over LTE and see if it works.

Okay. I've been doing it over wifi both home and at work because I don't want to download a software update over LTE. I could try that, but even if it does work through LTE, that won't really do me any good over the long run because I don't have unlimited LTE data.

 

[lewismayell]

iTunes gets the full install file instead of just the delta update. Been that way for a long tome.

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The workaround didn't really apply to those who are without a computer. And given how much Apple has stressed the whole PC-free thing it's not hard to imagine that there would be people in that situation. I'm not completely sure what would have been better for people in that situation, but Apple didn't really address their issue until later when they fixed the issue without providing a viable workaround to those people in the meantime.

So, what does that actually mean? What am I not getting by doing an OTA as opposed to an iTunes update?

 

[The Tuck]

Okay. I've been doing it over wifi both home and at work because I don't want to download a software update over LTE. I could try that, but even if it does work through LTE, that won't really do me any good over the long run because I don't have unlimited LTE data.

It won't work over LTE. iOS only lets you download software updates over wifi.

Tuck

 

[Segun]

Downloaded and installed Via iTunes. Working flawlessly, iPhone 64GB on the Three network, UK.

 

[C DM]

So, what does that actually mean? What am I not getting by doing an OTA as opposed to an iTunes update?

Nothing. You are getting the changes OTA to be applied, while via iTunes you are getting the full installation that has what you already had and the changes. It's thst way for recovery type of purposes.

 

[leftofsouth]

No issues

No issues on my AT&T 6+.

Updated over OTA

 

[rhett7660]

Can I ask how it performs? I updated my iPad 3 to iOS 8 and it's almost unusable compared to iOS 7. I wonder if I have a bad install.

It was laggy with iOS 8, I turned on reduce motion and it is good now. Also, I made sure to do a hard restart/shutdown on it and it seems to be working fine. No complaints, yet.

 

[AlabamaSlammer]

Since I'm tried myself I won't believe something like that. You most probably sat on it and don't remember that.

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Are you saying that the iPhone bends just by USING IT ??? that's utterly ridiculous

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40k over more than 10 millions sold ? A negligible number according to statistics.
It's annoying it you are among those 40k, but nothing more.

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So the act of texting bends you iPhone. Now you are more credible ...

I really don't think you read all my posts.. Several of the posts you quoted are full of sarcasm.. It wasn't a major bend like some of the pictures going around the internet but it was enough of a bend for me to not feel comfortable with the device...

And NO, I didn't sit on my phone. I have more sense than that and would remember sitting on a phone

 

[UltraZ33]

so how is everyone downloading this update without problems?? I did mine OTA and I had cell and Touch ID issues.

 

[akbarali.ch]

Clearly no one should be complaining when something they spent their hard earned money on has been crippled.

If one is so worried about hard earned money, then that person should be careful about updating so quick. there are people like me who embrace it, given the fact that i knew others are having issues, i still updated my iPad Air without a hitch. updated my iphone 4S and got stuck for the whole day.

I'm not complaining...they are updating my 4year old device with features that seems to be on par with current Android phones.

And there's nothing like bricking your iphone. restore it and it will be all good.

 

[Jamie-30]

just updated and no issues. I'm using iPhone 6 plus on three

 

[Col4bin]

That's great and all, but does this 8.0.2 update fix the dodgy wifi issue? I'm still getting slow wifi on my iPhone 6, where the same exact router connection on an iPhone 4S, iPad 2 and iMac are fine. The wifi network is also constantly dropping the connection to the iP6.

 

[shanson27]

Everything works fine so far, no issues at all

 

[shady25]

The 5 took the longest to update (4 hours) but it's working great as well

 

[gnasher729]

Stated file size to download: 72MB

Required free space to install: 1.5GB

WTF...! That's over twenty times more for chrissakes. Apple's patching process is completely screwed-up and very bothersome for people with smaller capacity devices. They're shooting themselves in the foot here, they will want people to upgrade, for the security fixes if not for the additional functionality and bug fixes, but by making it difficult for people they ensure fewer people will actually do it.

That's stupid. There's literally no reason they need so much free space just to patch the OS.

There is a very good reason indeed. Software updates don't always work as intended. Your battery might run out during the update. The update software might crash. Lots of things might go wrong. If an update modifies the software that is there, then there is a big risk that you end up with a bricked phone, if the update process stops or crashes just at the right (or wrong) moment. And you can't update bit by bit, because all the bits that get updated need to work together.

So the update will keep your old say 8.0.0 version intact, create a brand new 8.0.2 version, and when that version is finished and has been verified for correctness, that's the point where the old one is deleted and the phone switches to the new version. Anything else is too risky.

(When you use iTunes to update the phone it's different. If an iTunes update crashes halfway through, you have an unusable phone, but you just repeat the iTunes update. So the iTunes update doesn't need the extra space to have two versions of the software for a short time).

Except thats not the reason for it needing 20x the space - the package is not 1.5 GB compressed to 72 MB.

Most of the size savings are achieved by only putting the differences between the old and the new version into the package. Of course then it gets compressed which saves even more. But if you go back: If the software update tried to modify the old version and was halfway done and crashed, and the package only contains the difference between old and new version, then you can't run the update again, because you don't have the old version anymore. Another reason why you need to keep the old version intact while creating the new one.

 

[kerrikins]

so how is everyone downloading this update without problems?? I did mine OTA and I had cell and Touch ID issues.

Are you in Australia? Some people there are having issues. Otherwise restoring to 8.0 and then upgrading again might be a good idea.

 

[Skoal]

Wifi has been blazing on my iPhone 6!

 

[jtmarine73]

Actually, Google's release method that Apple likes to pick on helps them release more stable software. Google releases an Android build, it then goes to the individual manufacturers, who I'm sure test and retest as they then port their skin over, and then finally it again hits the carriers who release them individually. There's inherently more testing opportunities.

Have you ever had an android phone? I have and let me tell you, that many hands in the pot leads to more flaws, not less. And the time to resolution is forever because everyone points a finger at someone else!

 

[gnasher729]

Hey John, I never knew this! Thanks for that bit of info, I will now take encrypted backups every time!!

The reason is: If you took on unencrypted backup on your Mac, then someone could steal your Mac, buy a new iPhone, and restore the unencrypted backup to their iPhone. So Apple puts _most_ things into unencrypted backups (after all, that's why you made a backup) but leaves the real critical stuff out, like passwords and health information. On the plus side, a thief can't restore your passwords and health information. On the negative side, you can't restore your passwords and health information.

Yes, encrypted backups are the way to go.

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Are you saying that the iPhone bends just by USING IT ??? that's utterly ridiculous.

So the act of texting bends you iPhone. Now you are more credible ...

Maybe he lent the iPhone to his pet elephant?

 

[starfx6464]

My 6 on AT&T updated from 8.0.0 to 8.0.2 and have no issues to report. TouchID and cellular service remain functional.

 

[ltb7]

Who's going first? I'm still restoring back to 8.0!!! What a day...

Since I made the mistake of grabbing 8.01 as soon as it came out i've had the following missions...

Downloading the 2gb iPSW 8.0 restore file from Apple's battered servers for 18 hours, which kept timing out. Eventually find a link to a different Apple server on iClarified and grabbed it at full speed (which still took 2 hours to download on my connection)

Then I backed up, and this is my fault (although I wouldn't' be in this position were it not for the terrible update!) id recently run OmniDiskSweeper and deleted the 40gb of mobile apps that were filling my rMBP up from backups from various devices. Id foolishly then not updated the links in iTunes had I, and iTunes is not clever enough to check if the file actually exists before doing a back up. So I clicked to backup the apps thinking it would grab them all off the phone, only to find out iTunes thought it still had them and didn't realise it didn't until it came to restore the phone and it said 200 apps were missing... (it had only grabbed my recent updates)

So now I try an iCloud restore, my last resort if I can help it, knowing its going to take possibly days on my connection. I load it, and it all the apps are greyed out - but they won't download. Not at all. I press on them, nothing, says "waiting" then just stops. I tried everything, troubleshooting wise I could find online. I went into the app store and triggered manual downloads, but all the app data was then deleted...

So I dig out a Time Machine backup thinking I may still have the .ipa files - and low and behold there they are (thanks Time Machine!) I restore them over my network (2 hours....) after 2 hours is up I restore to 8.0 for the 4th time today, do my touch ID for the forth time today, enter my e-mail passwords, my iCloud passwords, my iTunes passwords, my keychain code, my Facebook password, my twitter password zzzz (I wish it remembered all these from the restore just by entering one password to load them all back up!)

And finally, finally, its spending 2 hours copying all the apps back off the computer (over lightning's USB2...sigh) and in the middle of that a tweet pops up "iOS 8.02 is released now" - FML

I'd buy you a drink if I could!! #

 

[Robert.Walter]

I didn't think it would be likely or really possible, but ios 8.0.2 Safari on an iPhone 4s is much worse than 8.0.0 was; now it is virtually unusable due to freezing, crashes and multiple page reloads. I'm getting tired of the new message "due to a problem safari has to reload the page"... Somebody needs to get the apple sack!