Apple Releases iOS 8.0.2 With Fix for Cellular Issues, Broken Touch ID

[MarkCollette]

Stated file size to download: 72MB

Required free space to install: 1.5GB

WTF...! That's over twenty times more for chrissakes. Apple's patching process is completely screwed-up and very bothersome for people with smaller capacity devices. They're shooting themselves in the foot here, they will want people to upgrade, for the security fixes if not for the additional functionality and bug fixes, but by making it difficult for people they ensure fewer people will actually do it.

That's stupid. There's literally no reason they need so much free space just to patch the OS.

Except thats not the reason for it needing 20x the space - the package is not 1.5 GB compressed to 72 MB.

It's not all that surprising, if you take into account three things:

• Text usually compresses to 1/10th it's size and binary data typically compresses to 1/3rd it's size. The more text in an upgrade, the greater the disparity between the compressed download file size and the uncompressed size on disk. Think of language resource files, that provide all the translations of the user interface.
• File systems use fixed size blocks to hold portions of files. The larger the disk, the larger the block size tends to be. So if you have a small file, say an image icon, that's 400 bytes, then if the block size is 512 bytes, it will still take 512 bytes of disk space to hold that 400 byte file, using more than 25% additional space. If the block size is 4 KB, then it will take 10x as much space. So, many small files will take much more space on disk than they do packaged into a single download file.
• Robust installation requires keeping all of the old files on the disk until the very last new file is in place, which doubles the disk space required. This is in addition to needing space for the compressed download file. So, at least 2x the disk space will need to very temporarily be available, to handle users losing power while installing, to not brick their phones.

All in, it could easily take 20x the space compared to the compressed installer. Depending on the nature of the files themselves, it could even take 200x more space.

 

[macenied]

Have they corrected the Hotspot feature? This was not working on AT&T with IOS 8.0. I don't know if it was a wifi isssue or something to do with hotspot. Anybody have same trouble?

I had this problem with my iPhone 5 on 8.0.0 already. Performing a clean install solved it. Hotspot was / is working on 8.0.0, 8.0.1 and 8.0.2 now.

 

[tys]

@MarkCollette
Great explanation!

 

[damorris]

Wifi issues?

Anyone else who's upgraded to 8.0.2 on an iPhone 6 having issues with Wifi? Since the upgrade, my wifi connection dropped and now it doesn't even find my network. My iPad mini and my MacBook are both connected with no issues. I've tried rebooting the phone. Next I'm going to try to rebooting my router.

 

[ssl0408]

I am still having wifi issues using a 5S. Connection keeps dropping. It's very annoying. If it weren't for the quick reply and new keyboard I would downgrade to 7.1.2.

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Anyone else who's upgraded to 8.0.2 on an iPhone 6 having issues with Wifi? Since the upgrade, my wifi connection dropped and now it doesn't even find my network. My iPad mini and my MacBook are both connected with no issues. I've tried rebooting the phone. Next I'm going to try to rebooting my router.

It's happening to me as well but I am using a 5S.

 

[ryan1340]

Have they corrected the Hotspot feature? This was not working on AT&T with IOS 8.0. I don't know if it was a wifi isssue or something to do with hotspot. Anybody have same trouble?

Do you have the old unlimited plan? Cause you can not use the hotspot feature if you do

 

[tys]

Jezus... Go buy that Z3. And never receive an update. I've had lots of Sony stuff in earlier years, like several VAIO's and the early phones, and they never received an update. Well, if Apple would stick to the same firmware/iOS as the device came with, nobody would have any bugs either. That would be easy?! And nobody is forcing you to update. Stay on iOS7 or 6 or whatever, and you would never experience an issue. It's like comparing apple's and oranges....

But because Apple is still providing iOS updates to devices which are already 4 years old (4S), there are likely to be bugs. Accept it. They are always resolved. And the ones which aren't, is likely because everybody is complaining on forums like this, and not reporting it to Apple (www.apple.com/feedback).

If you are an early adopter, accept the possible consequence. If you had wait a week (who-oo-oooo), and then updated, no bugs would have been yours...

I DID wait, I'm still on 8.0. Just came here to see if 8.0.2 was safe.
I do keep my devices on whatever iOS they came with, other than the incremental updates. For example I will never put iOS 9 on my 6+ , I've learned my lesson over the years. My gripe is that if I ever need to restore  won't let me use the old version anymore.
I'm curious about you saying that the Sony z3 will never get updates.
I thought the big appeal of android was you could install whenever version you wanted, unlike  who will only let you restore to whatever version currently has their blessing.

Edit: sorry for veering off topic !

 

[k1121j]

Airplay

and now airplay mirroring on iPad air/mini's/3's running 8.0.2 is broken. Apple engineer is currently looking in to it

 

[groggy2333]

This is probably one of the worst iOS release ever lol.

 

[sw6lee]

I can't comment on the iPad air or mini, but I have an older iPad (the iPad 3) and installed 8 on it and it's pretty smooth. One thing I had to do back with the 7 release though, is to turn off the moving background (the parallax effects). I think they were in the accessibility setting... cant remember exactly where now. But that was definitely making it laggy.

hey i also have ipad 3 and I just jumped from 7.1.2 to 8.0.2 and its so freakin laggy. Every single time i press home button from safari or other apps, the animation is SO choppy. Same thing for opening app switcher. 7.1.2 was laggy for me as well, so its not a huge deal, but do you also notice this? Thanks.

 

[ssl0408]

My wifi is dropping every couple of minutes on 8.0. 2. It was horrible on 8.0 too. It was working well on 8.0.1. Is there a way to go back to 8.0.1? I'm using a 5S if that helps.

 

[whsbuss]

My wifi is dropping every couple of minutes on 8.0. 2. It was horrible on 8.0 too. It was working well on 8.0.1. Is there a way to go back to 8.0.1? I'm using a 5S if that helps.

Only issue with wifi here (8.0 and 8.0.2) is when I come back on my network and open iTunes it does not see the device so I cannot wifi sync. A reboot solves it until I leave/come back on the local wifi network.

 

[lostlots]

iOS 8 Laggy on iPad2

hey i also have ipad 3 and I just jumped from 7.1.2 to 8.0.2 and its so freakin laggy. Every single time i press home button from safari or other apps, the animation is SO choppy. Same thing for opening app switcher. 7.1.2 was laggy for me as well, so its not a huge deal, but do you also notice this? Thanks.

The same issue appears on my iPad 2 - very jumpy with iOS 8. The Wall Street Journal app continues to drop right in the middle of reading articles! Never happened with iOS 7

 

[macmacguy]

I really like how auto-brightness do its job.

 

[silverf1re]

WiFi gone...

Upgraded from 8.0 to 8.0.2 on my iphone 6 and now it doesn't see any wifi networks, just sits and spins. Awesome. @

 

[apress]

upgraded from 8.0 to 8.0.2

I upgraded 1 of three iPhones. Now when I call any one of three iPhones they all ring. It does not matter which of the three numbers you call they all ring. Any ideas how to fix this issue? I restarted all devices at least 3 times.

Alan

 

[appleii.c]

hey i also have ipad 3 and I just jumped from 7.1.2 to 8.0.2 and its so freakin laggy. Every single time i press home button from safari or other apps, the animation is SO choppy. Same thing for opening app switcher. 7.1.2 was laggy for me as well, so its not a huge deal, but do you also notice this? Thanks.

Mine didn't seem laggy. It definitely isn't as smooth as when I first got it, but it's definitely manageable. I may notice a quick glitch on rare occasions when I switch apps, but its barely noticeable to me.

I knew updating it I was taking a risk, but It's not my main workhorse anymore. Mostly my kid uses it to play games. Right now he's doing Minecraft and Plunder Pirates on it and he's yet to complain to me about any issues.

For an older iPad, I wouldn't say it's a must to upgrade. Try and mess around with some of the location settings, and as I said, the background motion stuff was a KILLER for me even with iOS 7 so I immediately disabled that.

 

[apolloa]

Ok cool.... think I'll wait before updating our iPads that are on 8.0.0... or perhaps 8.0.3 will be released next week.

 

[cmaier]

I upgraded 1 of three iPhones. Now when I call any one of three iPhones they all ring. It does not matter which of the three numbers you call they all ring. Any ideas how to fix this issue? I restarted all devices at least 3 times.

Alan

You sure it's not just doing "handoff?"

 

[starfx6464]

Anyone else who's upgraded to 8.0.2 on an iPhone 6 having issues with Wifi? Since the upgrade, my wifi connection dropped and now it doesn't even find my network. My iPad mini and my MacBook are both connected with no issues. I've tried rebooting the phone. Next I'm going to try to rebooting my router.

iPhone 6 8.0.2 user here - still connected to my work's WiFi. Can't say for certain about my home connection, though.

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I upgraded 1 of three iPhones. Now when I call any one of three iPhones they all ring. It does not matter which of the three numbers you call they all ring. Any ideas how to fix this issue? I restarted all devices at least 3 times.

Alan

You sure it's not just doing "handoff?"

Yeah, that sounds like handoff. I had this happen to my iPad at work and was initially confused why it was showing my call from my phone.

It's a nice feature, but I kind of wish Apple would have had some sort of tutorial or warning about that in the initial setup.

 

[xEODGuy]

Is it just me

Or does it seem like the incoming call notification is a bit laggy? I've had a few calls come in, and when I look to see who it is, it takes several seconds for the screen to come on and show who the caller is.

I have a 5s, updated to 8.0.2 last night. Everything else so far seems to be ok.

Not a deal breaker, to be sure...but a little annoying.

 

[Neogenzz]

I currently use both platforms. Name the last time an Android OTA knocked out critical functionality for Android.

The last one I remember was ATT pulling an update for the GS4 (if I remember correctly) and I believe that was for a battery drain issue. Certainly nothing as serious as 8.0.1

Also, with app updates, you can revert to the older version on android very easily.

Been on both worlds since before gingerbread with android and have had this argument with apple users all the time way back when .. but overall, the Android updates whether it be an entire OS - which think.. you never see at the time of release b/c it goes to the carrier and takes a dump there for months before a user sees it ( unless rooted and using custom ROM's ) or small updates which are sent not with features or fixes..but with carrier updates for their base bands. Android updates a joke.. most users above 75% of them are rooted and never use their awaited OTA's that come months and months later... /rant

 

[ashdelacroix]

Recovery Mode

Ouch. I waited several hours before performing the upgrade. I have an iPhone 6 and did not originally attempt the 8.0.1. upgrade but have just attempted 8.0.2 OTA.

iPhone said I didn't have enough disk space, so deleted loads of unneeded apps. Update downloaded OK but then said I did not have enough disk space to install. Deleted more apps. Started the upgrade and a "Verifying..." overlay message popped up, but the background suddenly went black and the iPhone went off.

It restarted and then the "Plug in to iTunes" graphic appeared. Plugged it into iTunes, which said that I was now in Recovery Mode. I am now in the middle of downloading the upgrade to my MacBook Air to do a full restore.

I love Apple, but I am so angry right now about how badly this upgrade has been, in various ways, for so many people. "Bendgate" was a ridiculous and unnecessary controversy but the iOS upgrade deserves to attract a little attention so bad has it been.

 

[mentaluproar]

I've had wifi problems too. I have to reboot the device to get back online. I'll try nuking it later.

Problems like this should have been caught in beta testing.

 

[ashdelacroix]

Well it finally took and promptly crapped out. It's now telling me to connect to iTunes and do a full restore first. That sucks, especially considering I'm at work.

I've just commented on this and didn't realise others had this problem. Sort of glad it's not just me. Goodness knows how many people (e.g. normal people who don't use Mac forums ) are experiencing the same or similar problems.

Bad Apple!