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there is a work around. add Playlist is Music to your smart playlists (Recently Added, etc).

What?? Can you please elaborate upon this? It's unclear what you mean.
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EDIT #1: OK. I figured it out. A clearer way to state the workaround is this:

1. Recreate your smart playlist, adding "Playlist is Music" (or the appropriate category, if not "Music") to the top level of the playlist.
2. Select "Match all" at top of smart playlist.
3. Then, you have to re-add the other criteria as sub-criteria to "Playlist is Music" (or whichever you chose).
4. Select "Match any" above the newly-added criteria.

(These steps may vary, depending upon the type of smart playlist you need to create. Modify as needed.)
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EDIT #2: Much simpler workaround: Create a new smart playlist that points to the old smart playlist.
 
So you re-sync 32GBs everytime you sync? May I ask why? For 99% of the users, syncing means downloading new podcasts or adding a few songs they downloaded. For many of us, wireless sync'ing would be a huge feature addition.

No, but it copies files you've altered too, including play count alterations I *think* (it definitely used to with older ipods, and my first gen touch, but I haven't actually bothered plugging in my 3rd gen touch since initially putting my music across to it since contacts, todos, email, calendars etc all do wireless sync with MobileMe.

IF (and if someone who knows better says otherwise I'm not arguing!) ... IF it does still copy every file with any change, including playcounts, then if you actually listen to your music you are increasing the sync data quantity (and thus time) substantially.

Personally I'd love to see wireless sync as an option since I use separate chargers, but not at the expense of USB. Even if you had N it would still be vastly slower. 300Mbps is the peak bitrate, not the actual rate you will get data once overheads and distance and walls etc are taken into account.

As for people saying that other devices sync over bluetooth, there are three problems that spring to mind with this...

1) I doubt those devices are syncing music or videos over bluetooth and if they are it would be horrifically slow
2) It would be horrifically slow. I realise this is the same as 1) but it would be SO slow it really needs listing twice. I've had a phone where you sent music to it over bluetooth, and it only had 1GB capacity, and I still lost the will to live long before it filled up.
3) Since it wouldn't be much use for music, that leaves all your P.I.M. data etc, and Apple don't want you using Bluetooth for that, they want you to buy MobileMe (for good or ill)
 
Does tethering work again with factory-unlocked phones?

With 3.0, tethering was available on any carrier (by manually specifying the settings via a carrier file). The 3.1 update removed this functionality and only allowed tethering with "Apple-sanctioned" carriers. Is tethering still "locked" with 3.1.2?

Note: I am not talking about jailbreaks, unofficial unlocks, or AT&T.
 
IF (and if someone who knows better says otherwise I'm not arguing!) ... IF it does still copy every file with any change, including playcounts, then if you actually listen to your music you are increasing the sync data quantity (and thus time) substantially.

Playcounts are not part of the music files, they are just in the database. Listening to music does not noticeably increase the amount of data that needs to be synced.

--Eric
 
You speek as though the flash memory in the iPhone is fast enough to actually benefit from the USB's speed of 480 Mbps.

Go buy an expensive high read/write speed thumb drive, and tell me it doesn't transfer data 1000 times faster than the iPhone does.

The flash memory in the phone is slow enough that wireless syncing would be fine, if not exactly the same speed as it does over USB.

Heck, old iPod Classic's with harddrive transfer data faster.

I hadn't thought of this. I don't have an iPhone but a 3rd gen touch. I can't say I've noticed data transfers being slow, but it might be worth testing. Like I say, I agree it would be a nice option.
 
Does tethering work again with factory-unlocked phones?

With 3.0, tethering was available on any carrier (by manually specifying the settings via a carrier file). The 3.1 update removed this functionality and only allowed tethering with "Apple-sanctioned" carriers. Is tethering still "locked" with 3.1.2?

Note: I am not talking about jailbreaks, unofficial unlocks, or AT&T.

I would think so, but I'm not willing to go back to >3.0.1 to try it.
 
What?? Can you please elaborate upon this? It's unclear what you mean.

for certain smart playlists, the 3.1 update essentially broke them. in particular, the playlists for Recently Added and Recently Played. if you look at your recently added playlist on your iPhone, there is a seaming random list there - nothing to do with when they were added to your library at least. i believe this is because 3.1 introduced "live updating" on the device. the way this should work would be that if, say you downloaded a song on the iPhone, it would appear in the Recently Added playlist right away, without syncing to iTunes. but it doesn't work.
the "work around" is to edit the smart playlists in question and add the following criteria:
Playlist Is Music
the next time you sync your iPhone, if you look at your Recently Added playlist, it will now show the most recently added songs as it should and did prior to 3.1.
it does break the "live updating" on the device, but since that never worked anyway, it is a preferable alternative, to me at least.

and yes, i guess this would only work for music playlists and not fix the podcast or audiobook problems.
 
USB 2.0 is not 440 mb/s, it's 440 Mbit/s or ~57mb/s. However you're right, real world throughput definitely give the edge to USB. USB 3.0 should be nice (3.2 Gbit/s)

No, USB is in fact 440mb/s - lower case "b" stands for bits, "B" is bytes. If you want to convert 802.11n to Bytes/s - it's about 7MB/s.

So USB 2.0 theoretical throughput is about 8x higher than 802.11n.
 
Still doesn't fix my problem of Multiples of the same album appearing in the Album list on my iPod Touch. That's really getting annoying.

I have this too, and I can't work out any pattern as to anything in common with the albums that do it. It doesn't really bother me though, as I only ever use coverflow by accident. TBH I wish there was a nice simple official "turn the accelerometer off for itunes" option.

My other remaining gripe is something like "For the love of whatever deity you prefer, PLEASE scroll song titles that are too large to fit on the screen. There is literally NO way afaict to actually see the whole title. My second gen original ipod didn't have that problem!
 
No, USB is in fact 440mb/s - lower case "b" stands for bits, "B" is bytes. If you want to convert 802.11n to Bytes/s - it's about 7MB/s.

So USB 2.0 theoretical throughput is about 8x higher than 802.11n.

Key word - theoretical.

Anyone who knows how USB works knows it will never reach it's theoretical speed.
 
No, USB is in fact 440mb/s - lower case "b" stands for bits, "B" is bytes. If you want to convert 802.11n to Bytes/s - it's about 7MB/s.

So USB 2.0 theoretical throughput is about 8x higher than 802.11n.

The last time I checked USB 2.0 is 480 mb/s (60 mB/s), and 802.11n is 300 mb/s (37.5 mB/s). 802.11n is approximately 40% slower than USB 2.0.

I also believe you are limited by the speed of the flash memory/ controller in the iphone whilst connected through USB, but remember the iPhone only supports 802.11g. The speed of "G" is theoretically 54 mb/s.
 
No, USB is in fact 440mb/s - lower case "b" stands for bits, "B" is bytes. If you want to convert 802.11n to Bytes/s - it's about 7MB/s.

So USB 2.0 theoretical throughput is about 8x higher than 802.11n.

USB 2 is *480* not 440, and it's Mbps or Mb/s, not mb/s, which is often used as shorthand for megabits but is actually milibits per second, i.e. takes 1000 seconds to transfer 1 bit. lower case m is mili, upper case M is mega. Lower case b is bits. Upper case B is bytes. That said, it's wrongly used so often that it's debatable whether it's still 'wrong'.

I think I win the "Most Pedantic Response" trophy!

*goes and shoots self*
 
This may go without saying, but if you have Fusion running, close before trying to update. Bricked my phone.
 
NERMAL question for you...

I may be a candidate to answer this question. I have an american iPhone that I have unlocked and jailbroken. I am currently living in Spain using it with an official iPhone carrier Moviestar and tethering works great via a carrier file I imagine. I am a bit confused. You question below mentions tethering not working with unofficial carriers but then you say I'm not talking about jailbreaking or unofficial unlocks. Unless you are putting that there as a disclaimer for legal reasons it seems contradictory to me. Please explain. Also, because I am with an official carrier Moviestar in Spain BUT I have to unlock because I have an american iPhone does this mean when I jailbreak upgrade to 3.1 or 3.1.2 this WILL or WILL NOT work?

Does tethering work again with factory-unlocked phones?

With 3.0, tethering was available on any carrier (by manually specifying the settings via a carrier file). The 3.1 update removed this functionality and only allowed tethering with "Apple-sanctioned" carriers. Is tethering still "locked" with 3.1.2?

Note: I am not talking about jailbreaks, unofficial unlocks, or AT&T.
 
I may be a candidate to answer this question. I have an american iPhone that I have unlocked and jailbroken. I am currently living in Spain using it with an official iPhone carrier Moviestar and tethering works great via a carrier file I imagine. I am a bit confused. You question below mentions tethering not working with unofficial carriers but then you say I'm not talking about jailbreaking or unofficial unlocks. Unless you are putting that there as a disclaimer for legal reasons it seems contradictory to me. Please explain. Also, because I am with an official carrier Moviestar in Spain BUT I have to unlock because I have an american iPhone does this mean when I jailbreak upgrade to 3.1 or 3.1.2 this WILL or WILL NOT work?

The phones sold in New Zealand (as well as some other countries) are not locked. You can put a SIM from any carrier in there and it'll work for calling and browsing.

We have one official iPhone carrier, Vodafone. With an unmodified phone you can insert a SIM from alternative carriers XT or 2degrees and use the phone. With OS 3.0 it was possible to tether with any of these three carriers. With 3.1, tethering only functions on Vodafone.

Apple sells the phone as being compatible with all three carriers:

iPhone 3G & iPhone 3GS purchased at the Apple Online Store can be activated with any wireless carrier. Simply insert the SIM from your current phone into iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS and connect to iTunes 8.2 to complete activation.

However, when you update to 3.1, you lose the ability to manually set the options required for tethering. I'm hoping that 3.1.2 restores this functionality.
 
LOL for the JBers. This will keep the Dev Team busy. I'm sure glad I gave that up back on the 1st gen.

3.1.2 has been jailbroken and is still vulnerable.

I don't know why are you poking fun at the community that have shown the true potential of the iPhone including gaming (remember trism/lights off?) and created a complete open toochain long long before Apple even bothered announcing an official SDK/App Store.
 
Nermal question 2...

Hong Kong and a few other places as well. What I am trying to figure out was the seond part of my question. Do you know the anser to this?
"Because I am with an official carrier Moviestar in Spain (on 3.0) BUT I have to unlock because I have an american iPhone does this mean when I jailbreak upgrade to 3.1 or 3.1.2 this WILL or WILL NOT work? Does what you mentioned affect this? Thank you

The phones sold in New Zealand (as well as some other countries) are not locked. You can put a SIM from any carrier in there and it'll work for calling and browsing.

We have one official iPhone carrier, Vodafone. With an unmodified phone you can insert a SIM from alternative carriers XT or 2degrees and use the phone. With OS 3.0 it was possible to tether with any of these three carriers. With 3.1, tethering only functions on Vodafone.

Apple sells the phone as being compatible with all three carriers:



However, when you update to 3.1, you lose the ability to manually set the options required for tethering. I'm hoping that 3.1.2 restores this functionality.
 
Glad this has been released - my 3GS running 3.1 had been suffering with losing the cellular network and it was getting annoying! I re-started my phone four times yesterday due to it displaying 'no service' when there clearly was a signal, but I trust 3.1.2 will sort this.
 
High Score! Seventeen minutes from "Look for update" until pronto iPhone.

can someone post a screen shot of the version number/baseband information?

Before and after the update the same baseband version 05.11.07:
 

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