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The design of the new icon seems interesting at least for the fact that seems to whisper about a new UI in OS 10.7.
Don't you guys think so? In my opinion it doesn't look really random in style, it seems to come out of a whole UI system.

Oh totally. If history has shown us anything, it's the Apple uses iTunes as their venue to experiment with anything new UI related. A long time ago, I believe iTunes started using the Unified theme when OS X was still using brushed metal. Usually, when iTunes gets weird little UI quirks, they eventually make it into OS X's UI. I personally still don't know how I feel about them.
 
Does anyone else wonder why after all the expansion for more "media" and devices that iTunes has gone through over the years that they still do not directly support viewing PHOTOS inside iTunes? I can watch tv or movies in it, listen to radio, listen to my own music, rent or buy media, watch or listen to Podcasts, control other devices from Apple TV to iPHones and even organize photos to view on those devices, but I cannot set up a photo album or slide-show to watch inside iTunes itself (particularly with all that music there it makes sense to me; AppleTV is setup to use photos as slide-shows while iTunes offers only "Visualizers" to watch.) I mean really, photos are like the only real type of localized media that I cannot view/watch/listen in iTunes. Playlists would make a great way to organize/create photo albums or slide-show lists and they could be easily imported from iPhoto and other sources as well.

The name itself is getting out of date. It's more like iMedia these days than iTunes, but Photographs are a huge slice of media that would be SIMPLE for iTunes to add. I shouldn't have to open a hulking (and not free except with new Macs) program like iPhoto just to watch some slideshows and Preview is too simple. I'd certainly find that feature more useful than "Ping".

They have to market and sell iLife (with iPhoto). That's why
 
Apple and I are really on the same page lately. I've been waiting for something like Ping for a while now. I envisioned it including movies, tv shows, books, apps, and photos, too, but this is a good start.

On a side note, I'd kinda dig being able to browse the iBooks store on my iMac, I don't care much about being able to read the books, but it'd be cool to look at the store.
 
Damn I left the iTune 10 release disk in a Starbucks and when I went back it wasn't there! If Steve finds out about this I'm toast! Help... what time is it at the international date line?

Gray Powell
 
Yeah, but people know the iTunes name. If they renamed it, they would lose out on branding.

I think if they handled it right, it could be done. The trick would be to use "ITunes" within "iMedia" (or whatever spiffy name they could come up with) and use some ad logos and what not that says something like "iMedia FEATURING iTunes" along with their own literature explaining that iTunes is now iMedia and htat iTunes is a sub-part of the new larger iMedia. Kind of like how Logic Pro 9.1 is a PART of "Logic Studio 2.0" now. I just don't like application names that make no sense and iTunes is clearly no longer just a song player.

Heck, if they keep bloating iTunes, you might be able to call it iOS pretty soon. :D

They have to market and sell iLife (with iPhoto). That's why

Well they're not doing a very good job. iPhoto SUCKS HARD. And I'm being POLITE when I say that. :D

Seriously, iPhoto is so darn SLOW that I could take a dinner break while it imports my vacation photos and it'd still be processing them when I came back. It has no facility to handle new additions by date to photo albums (I still like to store everything in its own directory for convenience adding/removing them in a timely fashion) and so it's just a PITA to even manage. Then something like AppleTV will manage to mangle the end results sometimes anyway (with photos strangely missing for reasons unknown like iTunes doesn't update the albums very often).

In any case, iTunes should handle at least basic photo viewing, IMO (master list plus playlists). That would/could make managing them for Apple TV and iOS devices easier as well.

Microsoft's Expression Media 2 for Mac, OTOH, is very nice. I'm not totally crazy about the GUI interface, but it at least it does everything I want it to do and it will instantly update any photo albums that are BASED on directories storing individual files (as opposed to a giant database file which can mangle ALL photos in on corruption instance and probably a huge part of the reason why iPhotos is so DARN SLOW). Even Photoshop's "Bridge" program is more functional for photo viewing than iPhoto.
 
The name itself is getting out of date. It's more like iMedia these days than iTunes, but Photographs are a huge slice of media that would be SIMPLE for iTunes to add. I shouldn't have to open a hulking (and not free except with new Macs) program like iPhoto just to watch some slideshows and Preview is too simple. I'd certainly find that feature more useful than "Ping".
You would rather open a hulking application like iTunes+iPhoto rather than just iPhoto? Use some logic please.
 
Not bitching, disappointed that's the big thing for version 10.

Wow is the Apple Defense Squad uptight tonight.

Call it what you want. But to me, and every sane person here, it sounds a whole lot like bitching. Which is what all you brats like to do everytime Apple doesn't design something to satisfy your every little whim. It doesn't matter what they do, people will bitch. I remember all the bitching when Apple first announced the iPod...or the iPhone...or the iPad. The brats will always find something to complain about.

"Oh no the icon is different omgomgomg"

Do you even realize how silly that sounds? Goodness.
 
Call it what you want. But to me, and every sane person here, it sounds a whole lot like bitching. Which is what all you brats like to do everytime Apple doesn't design something to satisfy your every little whim. It doesn't matter what they do, people will bitch. I remember all the bitching when Apple first announced the iPod...or the iPhone...or the iPad. The brats will always find something to complain about.

"Oh no the icon is different omgomgomg"

Do you even realize how silly that sounds? Goodness.


This.

Part of being in the Apple ecosystem is having products that are high in quality, designed well, and work well. They call the shots because we they design it for us and make sure it' the best product they can release. If you want customization, if you want your "own" software/hardware/etc, go to Linux.
 
Damn I left the iTune 10 release disk in a Starbucks and when I went back it wasn't there! If Steve finds out about this I'm toast! Help... what time is it at the international date line?

Gray Powell

:)

Very good
 
You would rather open a hulking application like iTunes+iPhoto rather than just iPhoto? Use some logic please.

No, I think his logic is he'd rather open just iTunes, rather than iTunes and iPhoto when streaming media. Especially since iPhoto is paid for and the more complex iTunes is free.
 
I am in no hurry to update iTunes..... In fact, this evening, I sat down to install my new Magic Trackpad and when I hit "software update" to add the update for it, I thought, "oh, no, I don't want to have to fool with iTunes right now!" and was thankful when the update for that did not appear. Whew. As for that silly "Ping" thing, they can have it. This social-networking thing is getting way out of hand as far as I am concerned. Ugh!
 
I mean come on, this is an icon we're talking about. One single measly icon. Who cares? This is the kind of crap I'm talking about:

hah hah, I agree completely. On the other hand, I think the sideways window controls are somewhat annoying, but on the scale of stuff I actually have to care about on any given day this doesn't even register.
 
come ooooooooon

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No, I think his logic is he'd rather open just iTunes, rather than iTunes and iPhoto when streaming media. Especially since iPhoto is paid for and the more complex iTunes is free.

not to mention that iTunes is available to Mac + PC whereas no iLife for PC
 
You would rather open a hulking application like iTunes+iPhoto rather than just iPhoto? Use some logic please.

Why don't you use Logic? I already use it (the Logic 9.1 Pro that is). :p

Seriously, have you used iPhoto? Have you used iTunes? iPhoto is 10x more bloated than iTunes could ever hope to be and that's be conservative. 1000x wouldn't be out-of-line. iPhoto SUCKS. And it's not free unlike iTunes so it'd still make a lot more sense to have a basic picture and slideshow viewer in iTunes than none at all.

Something light-weight like Xee runs circles around iPhoto for just viewing photos quickly and easily and THAT is the performance we'd be talking about, not replacing iPhoto with a build-in viewer. iPhoto is more for organizing photos and albums than viewing them and iTunes could easily import albums as playlists (already does for AppleTV and iOS devices) so why no options to view your existing photo library?

Furthermore, iTunes is running here 24/7 while I almost never run iPhoto so which would be easier for me to drop into to view some photos quickly? As it is, the best way is to use the Finder to view the thumbnails and the spacebar to preview. Trying to use iPhoto to view a picture quickly and easily is like trying to use a sledgehammer to hang a picture frame, especially if they're new photos. As I said before, you could go eat dinner in the time it takes iPhoto to import 500-1000 vacation photos. Xee will bring them up instantly. iTunes could let you make playlists of photos quickly and easily, just tag and forget.

You seem to think it makes more sense to run two products for media when one will do. Why not have a separate tv, separate movie, separate book, separate podcast and separate radio and separate music program to view/watch/listen to that media instead of putting them all in iTunes? And yet you have the NERVE to claim I'm the one with the logic problem? :rolleyes:

Call it what you want. But to me, and every sane person here, it sounds a whole lot like bitching.

You whine about bitching, yet you imply people who do not agree with your point-of-view are not sane. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I might as well call all the endless gushing nonsense from the fanboys on here a bunch of groupies hoping Mr. Jobs will ask them to come back to his dressing room. But the truth is that there are always TWO SIDES to every story and if you cannot handle people giving their opinions on a message forum without insulting them, you should be spending your time elsewhere.
 
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