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Apple Releases iTunes 12.7 With Major Changes, Including No Built-In App Store
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While I do appreciate Apple making it so I can free up about 30GB of space on my MBP by dumping apps. I did like having the ability to d/l the apps for offline restore which was always a PITA when I had an Android phone in the past. Not that we have a choice in upgrading to iTunes 12.7 since you will need it for iOS 11 and the new phones.
You had 959 apps on your iPad?
I do not recall Smokey ever saying that.
Yes it is, automatic downloads. Now if all the devices use the exact same iCloud account, then your statement makes sense.
You're right about that!
And I had 0 32 bit apps. Google updated earth. And I guess I deleted Golden Axe II. Hard to play on touch screen anyway.
You should create a service profile for this, I have service profiles on all my dev devices that automatically loads up the apps and settings I need on the fly. I can even locally store the app files or offload them to a server and have them pushed.
But it has always been possible to switch accounts and countries on the desktop iTunes. Now it has become completely imposdible to even look at another store beyond the country you're in.
This is a totally stupid move.
So if I have the app files on my mac and I update iTunes, does it delete the app files from my computer, or do they get stored in a folder somewhere so that I can later drag them back onto an iDevice if they are no longer available in the store?
Yeah, I use a app which requires iTunes to sync these custom ringtones that I create. Is that over now or will I need some third-party manager now?
Called icloud or whatever other cloud service you want to use. Don't forget, you will have (unless they got rid of it in beta) a file manager in IOS 11.
But, IMO, I not surprised in Apple move to get rid of the iOS app store in Itunes. Personally, I never used the iOS app store in iTunes because I found it easier to check out apps on my ipad/iPhone & I didn't want to download the apps on my laptop as it takes up space.
Here's my question though, will the remove off the iOS app store in ITunes prevent users to sideload apps onto their device? If so, then I think that was the main reason why did this.
The files are there,
If you need to update to iTunes 12.7 but still need iTunes 12.6 to sync apps, I have a solution in my reply.
Removing the apps function to manage my 1500 apps directly on my iPhone is going to be so ineffective. To create menus, drag apps from screen 11 to screen 1 etc... will take way too much time. From the iTunes on my MacPro, I could see 11 menus for example and drag/drop apps directly on a page, easily create folders, move folders around, reorganize pages etc.. To do this on an iPhone is too cumbersome for anyone with lots of apps like I do.
Also, I remote manage my family's computers and iOS devices. I was able to remote desktop into my parents computers and manage their apps from iTunes. Now with this function gone, I have no way of managing apps on my parents iOS devices remotely. A tech savvy person can easily do that on their own. My parents are elderly and to guide them over the phone to manage apps, download apps is next to impossible possible.
The removal of the apps from iTunes to me is a major step backwards on managing large # of apps and also for remote management. There is no alternative way to manage the apps other than on the device itself, neither for my own large library of apps, nor remotely for my aging parents. Although I love for technology to move forward as I'm an early adopter and also a power user across the board for all Apple's products, I'm very very disappointed at what just happened by removing the apps function from iTunes without providing any alternative that has the equivalent functionality.
The process to be heard at apple is to file a feedback form at the following: https://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
I left my feedback as above and requested that Apple either bring back the apps function in iTunes or provides an alternative on my Mac.
Also, I remote manage my family's computers and iOS devices. I was able to remote desktop into my parents computers and manage their apps from iTunes. Now with this function gone, I have no way of managing apps on my parents iOS devices remotely. A tech savvy person can easily do that on their own. My parents are elderly and to guide them over the phone to manage apps, download apps is next to impossible possible.
The removal of the apps from iTunes to me is a major step backwards on managing large # of apps and also for remote management. There is no alternative way to manage the apps other than on the device itself, neither for my own large library of apps, nor remotely for my aging parents. Although I love for technology to move forward as I'm an early adopter and also a power user across the board for all Apple's products, I'm very very disappointed at what just happened by removing the apps function from iTunes without providing any alternative that has the equivalent functionality.
The process to be heard at apple is to file a feedback form at the following: https://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
I left my feedback as above and requested that Apple either bring back the apps function in iTunes or provides an alternative on my Mac.
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I think they want to ultimately merge the MacOS app store & ITunes into one on Mac IMO.
That may be true, but taking away some functionality without telling us how to do things is wrong
I doubt it. If it was the case , they would have mentionned it in the notes.
The removal of app managing ignores some HUGE things that apple and even many user defending decision have seriously overlooked.
I love apple devices, and own many of them. 3 iphones, 1 ipad. many macs. I also live in a rural area where internet speeds as slow as 1.5Mbit DOWNLOAD is till a very real problem. In fact recent data from speedtest.net and other sources have indicated there is still a large percentage of USA (rural areas) who doesn't even have access to 10Mbit or faster internet. I'm sure this is true in other countries as well.
So what's this mean for app management? I have always downloaded updates on mac via itunes ONCE then synced them to 4 different devices manually. Garage band update alone can run1-2Gig download. There can also be up to 10-15 app updates PER DAY that can easily run over a gig too. You may think this small but imagine if updating your apps means letting itunes download said updates OVER NIGHT while you sleep because that's how long it takes. PER DAY sometimes.
You know what that download is now? 4x that with 4 device. No way to download on a single source then sync to all devices is a HUGE impact. Just because you are on a wifi connection doesn't mean you don't have slow speeds, or data caps like many ISPs still have. This removal from itunes is a big way to really screw over a lot of users and maybe even turn users away from apple products who NEED a way to manage multiple devices for multiple users via a single location like itunes.
Apples whole "wireless is future" ignores the fact that many people cannot embrace that future yet. I never over air update even on wifi because of slow internet. I even disable any and all automatic syncing features too like photos, back to mac, icloud, etc etc because again bandwidth issues. I literally RELY on itunes as the one source to backup, sync, update all devices on the regular.
So what does this mean to for me? no iOS 11, no future apple devices, just so I can stay on an older version of itunes that isn't broken, because yes, 12.7 is broken for a lot of users and I hope apple hears our voice on this and fixes this mistake. I they don't want it in itunes anymore than they need to release a separate app for it.
I love apple devices, and own many of them. 3 iphones, 1 ipad. many macs. I also live in a rural area where internet speeds as slow as 1.5Mbit DOWNLOAD is till a very real problem. In fact recent data from speedtest.net and other sources have indicated there is still a large percentage of USA (rural areas) who doesn't even have access to 10Mbit or faster internet. I'm sure this is true in other countries as well.
So what's this mean for app management? I have always downloaded updates on mac via itunes ONCE then synced them to 4 different devices manually. Garage band update alone can run1-2Gig download. There can also be up to 10-15 app updates PER DAY that can easily run over a gig too. You may think this small but imagine if updating your apps means letting itunes download said updates OVER NIGHT while you sleep because that's how long it takes. PER DAY sometimes.
You know what that download is now? 4x that with 4 device. No way to download on a single source then sync to all devices is a HUGE impact. Just because you are on a wifi connection doesn't mean you don't have slow speeds, or data caps like many ISPs still have. This removal from itunes is a big way to really screw over a lot of users and maybe even turn users away from apple products who NEED a way to manage multiple devices for multiple users via a single location like itunes.
Apples whole "wireless is future" ignores the fact that many people cannot embrace that future yet. I never over air update even on wifi because of slow internet. I even disable any and all automatic syncing features too like photos, back to mac, icloud, etc etc because again bandwidth issues. I literally RELY on itunes as the one source to backup, sync, update all devices on the regular.
So what does this mean to for me? no iOS 11, no future apple devices, just so I can stay on an older version of itunes that isn't broken, because yes, 12.7 is broken for a lot of users and I hope apple hears our voice on this and fixes this mistake. I they don't want it in itunes anymore than they need to release a separate app for it.
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I don't think "shocked" is the right word... that's using the term loosely... I would say "neurotic"..
This is gonna upset people... no more buying and syncing over to iOS with apps or ringtones... Bye-bye.
App download size will not change, since if you don't have the complete app, your gonna have to download it anyway, so its not a strain on servers as the issue.. Noting would change... each device will be downloading as they do now, since u can't transfer apps to different devices,, You never could do that without a wiping off all apps..
This is gonna upset people... no more buying and syncing over to iOS with apps or ringtones... Bye-bye.
App download size will not change, since if you don't have the complete app, your gonna have to download it anyway, so its not a strain on servers as the issue.. Noting would change... each device will be downloading as they do now, since u can't transfer apps to different devices,, You never could do that without a wiping off all apps..
So does this update add support for FLAC to iTunes? Apple has added FLAC to the supported audio formats on the new iPhones:
https://www.apple.com/iphone-8/specs/
https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/specs/
Audio formats supported: AAC-LC, HE-AAC, HE-AAC v2, Protected AAC, MP3, Linear PCM, Apple Lossless, FLAC, Dolby Digital (AC-3), Dolby Digital Plus (E-AC-3), and Audible (formats 2, 3, 4, Audible Enhanced Audio, AAX, and AAX+)
https://www.apple.com/iphone-8/specs/
https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/specs/
Audio formats supported: AAC-LC, HE-AAC, HE-AAC v2, Protected AAC, MP3, Linear PCM, Apple Lossless, FLAC, Dolby Digital (AC-3), Dolby Digital Plus (E-AC-3), and Audible (formats 2, 3, 4, Audible Enhanced Audio, AAX, and AAX+)
Seems like iOS 11 64 bit only was a deal breaker & now iTunes App Store and ringtones removal seals the deal.
I'm still smarting from the loss of being able to download purchased apps from my iPhone to the desktop. Now I have to download them twice.
I have several apps I reverted back because the newer versions are crippeled. With this feature being lost how can you revert?
I'm still smarting from the loss of being able to download purchased apps from my iPhone to the desktop. Now I have to download them twice.
I have several apps I reverted back because the newer versions are crippeled. With this feature being lost how can you revert?
Thanks for the correction....as long as they don't go away off my computer when I update, I'm not so worried. I will probably update all my apps in iTunes one last time and then upgrade iTunes. I suppose newly downloaded apps will no longer go onto the computer though? Will I be able to do the reverse and drag an app out of the "On My Device" section and into my computer to get a backup on my computer? I may end up comfortable with the functionality going away long term....but until I'm there, I'm glad the files just don't auto-delete on upgrade of iTunes.