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Got an error message when updating. All other updates (iPhoto) were fine. Then I got to the bottom of the list and it said, "There was an error with the installation." Then it jumped to the "Shutdown or Restart?" window. Now it's frozen at bootup.

lol

I got the same thing on my intel mac mini, mooey. This update was a complete disaster for me. I'm still working on fixing this mess. I'm following your thread over at:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/287303/
 
Messed up fonts

Hello,

This update caused me an annoying problem. :( Some of my messages are now unreadable. See pic below:

page0_blog_entry2_1.png


Anyone having the same problem?

Try turning off Helvetica Fractions in your Font Book. Worked for us on 2 computers.
 
installed fine. no problems on my iMac.

the speakers are louder, which is a good and a bad thing. when i want music to be playing quietly, i have to turn the main volume down to 1 bar, iTunes down to nearly off, and adjust the equilizer so volume is lower. It sounds pathetic, but I like music on quiet sometimes.
 
All retail packs are upgrade licenses: you can only legally install Mac OSX on an Apple branded computer and they all shipped with a version of Mac OS on them already so the retail packs are to upgrade these...

They don't require a previous version of Mac OS to be installed, and they don't require a serial number from a previous version of Mac OS. They're full installs.

You can't install an upgrade version of Windows without a previous version of Windows on the hard drive or a serial number from a previous version of Windows.

I think by most people's definition of "upgrade", it would require a previous version or a previous serial number.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's semantics. The fact remains that they've all been $129.
 
They don't require a previous version of Mac OS to be installed, and they don't require a serial number from a previous version of Mac OS. They're full installs.

You can't install an upgrade version of Windows without a previous version of Windows on the hard drive or a serial number from a previous version of Windows.

I think by most people's definition of "upgrade", it would require a previous version or a previous serial number.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's semantics. The fact remains that they've all been $129.

Actually with Vista you can!
 
What about the massive discounts if you bought a Mac one month before Tiger cam out?

Upgrade DVDs for Tiger were given for free to everyone who bought a Mac after Tiger was released, and some people who purchased within about a two week window were also able to acquire a drop-in DVD for free, plus shipping and handling.
 
Upgrade DVDs for Tiger were given for free to everyone who bought a Mac after Tiger was released, and some people who purchased within about a two week window were also able to acquire a drop-in DVD for free, plus shipping and handling.

Anyone who bought a new Mac once the release date was announced got "free" upgrades. This will probably be the same again for Leopard.
 

Not really. The article you cite even says so. With Vista, you have to have a previous install of Windows XP to install an upgrade license. It's just that some have found a way around it.

Also, Apple has shipped actual upgrade installs which do require a previous version of OS X to be installed, which are quite different from the full versions that are available at retail.
 
Sorry to side track the conversation, but is anyone else having connection issues w/ Adium? My connection is all jacked up :(
 
Sorry to side track the conversation, but is anyone else having connection issues w/ Adium? My connection is all jacked up :(

i'm having trouble logging into ichat, it keeps saying the connection is lost. Is it all of adium or just ur aim client?
 
The retail price of every version of OS X so far has been $129. Apple has never sold an upgrade license of any version of OS X.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's semantics. The fact remains that they've all been $129.
Licensing is *all* semantics! Apple only sells upgrade licenses to its software, however, for anyone still confused.

Apple doesn't have different licensing levels, so the term Software License Agreement doesn't require any further clarification, but I assure everyone that it is not a "full" license in the legal sense. Trying to draw distinctions from Windows regarding activation and serial numbers is irrelevant--those are simply implementations; there is no requirement that a full retail license have serial numbers or dongles or activation or registration or what have you.

The only actual distinction between what is colloquially called a "full retail license" (better known in the practice as a "standalone" license) and an "upgrade/update" license is that full retail licenses must be compatible with "bare" systems (which is not the same thing as "blank"). As Apple does not sell bare hardware at all, there is no full license available to the software. If Apple offered a "full" license, it would be more difficult, legally, to restrict the OS to Macs (but still possible).

Also, Apple has shipped actual upgrade installs which do require a previous version of OS X to be installed.
Variations on a theme, as it were. The prerequisite to the stacked license is different, but not the requirement itself. It has shipped those discs as "updates" and the only distinction is that rather than requiring an initial license of OS X, it requires an initial installation.
 
i'm having trouble logging into ichat, it keeps saying the connection is lost. Is it all of adium or just ur aim client?

Us too...connection problems. Anybody else having this issue?
10.4.9
iMac G5 2.1 GHz
1GB ram
&
PowerBook
10.4.9
G4 1ghz
1GB Ram


Edit: Must have been aliens or something with aim connection from our location
 
In other news, anyone notice this?. Its now Apple Inc. and no longer Apple computers and year has been upgraded to 07.

You didn't happen to notice that it now says 10.4.9 instead of 10.4.8? Wow!

In all honesty, it was kina expected they would change it.
 
So it appears that the update deleted all of my files and reset my computer to the original factory settings. Words cannot express my frustration with Apple at the moment. Luckily most of it is backed up...




:mad:
 
On my 17" Core Duo MacBook Pro the same, the internal speakers are really loud now, even at one dot in Volume I can her the "blink" sound clearly, before the update I haven't heard a beep at this volume.

How about the others? Headphones maybe? (will try it later at home)

FYI

Headphone volume hasn't changed, it just the volume of the internal speakers. Great update so far, no problems whatsoever.
 
Licensing is *all* semantics! Apple only sells upgrade licenses to its software, however, for anyone still confused.

Apple doesn't have different licensing levels, so the term Software License Agreement doesn't require any further clarification, but I assure everyone that it is not a "full" license in the legal sense. Trying to draw distinctions from Windows regarding activation and serial numbers is irrelevant--those are simply implementations; there is no requirement that a full retail license have serial numbers or dongles or activation or registration or what have you.

The only actual distinction between what is colloquially called a "full retail license" (better known in the practice as a "standalone" license) and an "upgrade/update" license is that full retail licenses must be compatible with "bare" systems (which is not the same thing as "blank"). As Apple does not sell bare hardware at all, there is no full license available to the software. If Apple offered a "full" license, it would be more difficult, legally, to restrict the OS to Macs (but still possible).


Variations on a theme, as it were. The prerequisite to the stacked license is different, but not the requirement itself. It has shipped those discs as "updates" and the only distinction is that rather than requiring an initial license of OS X, it requires an initial installation.

I think you are nit-picking here. I would argue the opposite, that Apple only sells full licenses and not upgrades.

Everytime you buy a new Mac you get a specialized set of OS, driver, and software install disks. If you have ever tried to use these disks to install OS X on a different machine, they won't let you because they are tied to the specific system sold.

However the new releases of OS X that you buy from Apple will let you install the new OS on any Apple hardware that supports OS X. The disks are by definition full install disks because they contain a complete set of specialized drivers and optimized code for whatever Apple hardware you choose to load it on. It can now even be PPC or x86 based and the install disks still work.

It doesn't require a previous version of OS X at all. You can perform a full install from any bare system that Apple sales. That by even your definition is a full license.
 
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