I see, what year MacBook was this issue on?
Mid 2012 MBP. Bought it right out of the gate. Nice i7 with 16gb.
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I see, what year MacBook was this issue on?
Which apps don’t work? Does ms office work?
After the third major Catalina update, my 2012 MPB wouldn't safe-sleep or hibernate. It just runs down the battery when the lid is closed and then crashes when I plug it in and power it back up. Did all the SMC, NVRAM resets and such and adjusted the pmset parameters. Tried a fresh Catalina install on a fresh SSD.
I thought it was my MacBook, but a couple weeks ago I went back to Mojave and it's working perfectly. I've read about the same problem on the same machine from a few people, including on the forums here.
Mojave had 3 supplemental updates around the time of the Catalina release. I upgraded from High Sierra after the 3rd SU. I had none of the issues with Mojave that everyone else did (simply because I waited until after the bugs were fixed).I am in this boat. While I’ve waited on a major version upgrade until the first or second minor revision, I’ve never held back anywhere close to this long, nor have I ever skipped an entire OS X version like it looks like I will end up doing with Catalina.
There are lots of people here saying they don’t have issues after the update but basically the best case scenario for me seems to be upgrading without problems but then also no real must-have improvement or new features, since Mojave is working so well for me as of now.
After the third major Catalina update, my 2012 MPB wouldn't safe-sleep or hibernate. It just runs down the battery when the lid is closed and then crashes when I plug it in and power it back up. Did all the SMC, NVRAM resets and such and adjusted the pmset parameters. Tried a fresh Catalina install on a fresh SSD.
I thought it was my MacBook, but a couple weeks ago I went back to Mojave and it's working perfectly. I've read about the same problem on the same machine from a few people, including on the forums here.
It's still a good idea to upgrade to Catalina even if only for a day or a week. I made the mistake of doing a clean install back around Mountain Lion, when Apple moved where iChats were stored locally (before iCloud). Those chats are forever trapped outside of Messages. Not a big deal but the lesson was that each OS needs to be upgraded. Don't break the chain.This is why I’m going from Mojave to Big Sur (once it’s verified as stable).
It's still a good idea to upgrade to Catalina even if only for a day or a week. I made the mistake of doing a clean install back around Mountain Lion, when Apple moved where iChats were stored locally (before iCloud). Those chats are forever trapped outside of Messages. Not a big deal but the lesson was that each OS needs to be upgraded. Don't break the chain.
Are you saying that a Safari update was built into the Supp Update and it went from 14.0 to ? I have been holding off applying the stand alone Safari 14.0 update from last month. Can someone please confirm that an update to Safari 14.0 is built into the new Supp Update? And the new Safari build number? Or is everyone still on Safari 14.0 after the update?Yes, and it's faster.
There is no change to Safari in the 10.15.7 supplemental update.Are you saying that a Safari update was built into the Supp Update and it went from 14.0 to ? I have been holding off applying the stand alone Safari 14.0 update from last month. Can someone please confirm that an update to Safari 14.0 is built into the new Supp Update? And the new Safari build number? Or is everyone still on Safari 14.0.
ThxThere is no change to Safari in the 10.15.7 supplemental update.
I hope so, because in a year I'll probably be updating to it and I like the stability of Mojave.Catalina is a lot better than it used to be. Mojave will always be my fav since Snow Leopard though.
And that we still use inches.It’s impressive that this version is forwards compatible so many centuries!![]()
Like you, I was gonna skip Catalina, but I decided to upgrade in August and have had no regrets. Catalina is solidThis is why I’m going from Mojave to Big Sur (once it’s verified as stable).
Mojave had 3 supplemental updates around the time of the Catalina release. I upgraded from High Sierra after the 3rd SU. I had none of the issues with Mojave that everyone else did (simply because I waited until after the bugs were fixed).
I'm waiting for a 3rd supplemental update to Catalina. Apple usually release 1 more SU to the last OS after they release the new OS. If there's not a 3rd SU by the time Big Sur is updated to .1 or .2, I'll take the leap to Catalina in December.
In my work circle, we all stay perpetually 1 release behind. All things being relative, we still upgrade annually. This is the way.
Everyone keeps talking about security updates. Honestly, I'm fine using Mojave WELL beyond the last security update.Mojave has anther year of security updates yet, no need to migrate to either of the disasters that are Apple's last two OS releases.
You do have a valid pointEveryone keeps talking about security updates. Honestly, I'm fine using Mojave WELL beyond the last security update.
I've had macs, even ones with really old os's (like Lion or Mountain Lion) and somehow my computers never blew up without those precious security updates.
@k27
First I have heard of this. What machine are you using?We need an update to stop the mail application from opening by itself. I called Apple on this and a lot of people are having this problem.
After the third major Catalina update, my 2012 MPB wouldn't safe-sleep or hibernate. It just runs down the battery when the lid is closed and then crashes when I plug it in and power it back up. Did all the SMC, NVRAM resets and such and adjusted the pmset parameters. Tried a fresh Catalina install on a fresh SSD.
pmset -g assertions
When exactly is this happening to you and how? This has been reported for Mojave also and has happened to me about 8 times in the last two years. So infrequently that I have ignored. But for me, the Mail app is already open, but hidden, and when I am in Safari full screen, the split screen Mail window will just automatically show up while I'm watching a video. No incoming mail or any other mail activity makes this happen. Is this the same for you?We need an update to stop the mail application from opening by itself. I called Apple on this and a lot of people are having this problem.
I don't know about him, but it's the same for me, just as you described. Happens rarely so I ignore it.When exactly is this happening to you and how? This has been reported for Mojave also and has happened to me about 8 times in the last two years. So infrequently that I have ignored. But for me, the Mail app is already open, but hidden, and when I am in Safari full screen, the split screen Mail window will just automatically show up while I'm watching a video. No incoming mail or any other mail activity makes this happen. Is this the same for you?
Another way to see that it was installed, along with an informative history of when your update and previous updates were installed, is to use the command `softwareupdate` in terminal as such:Why don't they have a minor version number instead of calling it a supplemental update?
I just updated and there is no way to tell whether or not the update actually happened.
Edit: @Unsupported showed me how to find it. That can also be found under
About This Mac -> System Report -> Software
But having a minor version number would be so much easier.