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After reading the relentlessly negative replies here, I wish there was a way to delete my account from this forum (but it appears there isn't an option anywhere?). It's become a dire, soulless place...
Welcome to the end of 2018... where the internet belongs to the narcissistic and self-loathing.

Not even Anger's gifs can salvage the bloated carcass of this forum at times...
 
After reading the relentlessly negative replies here, I wish there was a way to delete my account from this forum (but it appears there isn't an option anywhere?). It's become a dire, soulless place...
Agree fully, but it’s just people’s negativity. Not yours. Ignore it, don’t let it affect you.
If people want to be souless, let them. Be glad for yours.
And be happy anyway :)
 
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I still don't get all this complaining about the screen resolution. I bet most of the people have never seen the display with their own eyes..
It's all about the number '720p' and this ridiculous clip with the tinfoil-head-beyond-belief-guy raging and shouting something with fraud and iPhone 4. Feels like car quartet.. Higher numbers are trumps and must be better.

The display looks awesome, I can't say anything bad about it. Maybe it's a little too big. Would've preferred 4.7" but that's just a matter of taste I guess.
 
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“Can’t innovate no more, my ass”

*starts releasing every rainbow colour, then 256 shades*
Like this?

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After reading the relentlessly negative replies here, I wish there was a way to delete my account from this forum (but it appears there isn't an option anywhere?). It's become a dire, soulless place...
No one is forcing you to read it, even less reply. Simply log off and don't visit again, easy peasy.
 
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I actually wonder if the Xr marketing push isn’t just to increase sales as much as it’s to increase awareness. The Xr is the same cost bracket as the popular 8/8 Plus a year ago. Yet this thread is dominated by “the prices are too high” comments. People can’t let go of the Xs’ $1000 price point. Maybe the Xr should’ve been released first.
We'll know a lot more in about a month. I'm expecting a lot of haters to be upset.
 
They are also desperate enough to send me this in the email!
WTF, Apple?!:mad:
Dude, stop overreacting. Just opt out of the emails for starters.

Secondly, Apple is under tremendous pressure to deliver over $1 BILLION in sales PER DAY for FQ1 2019. They need to put up about $93B in 90 days for Wallstreet not to go crazy. Welcome to business. You have to push harder and harder every year to sell product because you're expected to grow sales.

Just because Apple is doing different, more aggressive, new, or whatever type of marketing you call it, doesn't mean anything except they are trying to sell more stuff. They aren't failing, desperate, or in trouble. They are trying to cram as many sales as possible into 90 freaking days.
 
Ads cost money, and they can backfire, so I think it's quite possible that this did more harm than good.

Rather than increase our respect for Apple, we now respect Apple less. It didn't raise awareness of a product nobody knew existed. Seems to me it was a total flop in every way.
This is a mess of arguments, so going point by point:
  1. Money isn't exactly a concern for Apple; they can easily afford ad buys. They made a holiday ad that was almost 3 minutes long in its entirety, and many of their television ads are 60 seconds or even 90 seconds rather than the typical 30 seconds. They're not going to make ads that they, for whatever reason, cannot afford.
  2. You argue by assertion that the ad may backfire, but fail to provide any reasoning for why this ad in particular may backfire. Any ad may backfire, but very few ads do. Should Apple never advertise again because they're worried about an ad backfiring? (They've certainly done far worse ads than this in the past. Surprised they didn't throw in the towel and close up shop.)
  3. Who's "we"? I don't respect Apple any less for this ad, and I don't recall any Apple ad which has made me "respect" Apple more. There are better ways to commandeer respect as a company than through marketing, like making a product that the user loves.
  4. The purpose of ads isn't to "raise awareness of a product nobody knew existed." By that logic, every iPhone ad since the first ones in 2007 has been pointless, and God forbid Coca-Cola advertises its beverages. The purpose of most ads is to promote a product for sale or the company you'd be purchasing from, even if you already know about it.
 
But display is a massive portion of the cost of the device.

I think the argument that's being made is that nothings wrong with a lower res LCD display, it's value is just pretty low for a device that costs flagship prices.

Just some numbers to go along with what you said, I paid $940 for my S9 with a 5.8" 2960x1440 super AMOLED display. An XR is $1029 and we all know the display specs on that. About the only things I can think of that the XR has on it that are not subjective are the A12 without a doubt and the AR module if that floats your boat.
 
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Just some numbers to go along with what you said, I paid $940 for my S9 with a 5.8" 2960x1440 super AMOLED display. An XR is $1029 and we all know the display specs on that. About the only things I can think of that the XR has on it that are not subjective are the A12 without a doubt and the AR module if that floats your boat.
So they are more or less the same price and yours runs Android. Average consumers don't care about specs and the Xr screen looks great for most people.
 
Has Apple lost their mind?

Last year the iPhone 8 Plus cost $750 and was marketed as a premium device with the latest tech.

This year they're marketing the same $750 phone in this "urban environment" (i.e. Chernobyl tower block), probably to people who will spend $750 on this damn phone.

And then they wonder why the things aren't selling. Give me a break.
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Jeez is that only Tim Cook knows about put rainbows and butterflies in everything Apple.

This Apple + rainbow theme is pretty new, isn't it?

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Just some numbers to go along with what you said, I paid $940 for my S9 with a 5.8" 2960x1440 super AMOLED display. An XR is $1029 and we all know the display specs on that. About the only things I can think of that the XR has on it that are not subjective are the A12 without a doubt and the AR module if that floats your boat.

Again, just numbers. Why on earth do one need 4k on a 5.8" device? You couldn't see a single pixel at that resolution if the screen would be four times the size.
And an XR is $799 with 128GB, or $899 with 256GB..
 
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I loved this ad. It really shows off the iPhone XR's features, and caters to the type of audience that is willing to spend $750 + tax on a phone.

What happened to the sexy iPhone ads????

 
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Again, just numbers. Why on earth do one need 4k on a 5.8" device? You couldn't see a single pixel at that resolution if the screen would be four times the size.
And an XR is $799 with 128GB, or $899 with 256GB..

My vision is actually quite good. I have the text size on the lowest setting possible - most people I know cannot read it even less than a meter away - I like it that way so I can fit as much text and elements on one screen at one time as I can. All subjective.

What is not subjective is the display has a better resolution and is more expensive.

>And an XR is $799 with 128GB, or $899 with 256GB..

There is a whole world outside of the USA. An 64GB XR is $1029 direct from Apple. Likewise, an S9 looks cheaper there than does here. I haven't done comparisons outside of my own market.
 
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