Apple Releases OS X 10.7.1

[C64]

About Lion being Vista: oh dear, there are bugs in a .0 release! How surprising. This wasn't the case with all the previous OS X versions, no way. Oh.. wait, it was.

Vista was for its entire life span for a large part unstable and unusable for the majority of its users. Lion is running perfectly fine for the majority, safe a few bugs, and gives a very small percentage more serious problems — mostly when updating in stead of after a clean install.

This isn't anything new, this isn't unexpected. If you need a fully stable system: don't install a dot zero release. It's that simple.

For what it's worth: apart from a few strange things (mainly related to 3rd party apps) that were fixable, 10.7.0 has been running very smooth and very zippy on three different Macs here, one of which is 4.5 years old. Haven't upgraded anything though; all clean installs.

 

[MacNewsFix]

I think Lion is Apple's Vista. This has been terrible on all my macs. I have to reboot every day. One Mac Pro has been ok, the rest, spinning beach balls on almost all apps, especially finder. Pathetic Apple!!!

Sorry to hear about your woes.

No problems here on more than a dozen Macs. I wonder if your installer was corrupt or if it has something to do with the apps you are running. Care to elaborate?

I don't think I'd go that far. I have been disappointed that, unlike with 10.3.0 and 10.4.0, Apple's last several major .0 releases have had significant performance issues and/or outright problems. But they do seem to get them ironed out, and eventually the releases get to where they're quite solid. With Vista, Microsoft seemed to basically abandon it - they tried to get everyone's attention onto Windows 7 pretty early.

It's way too early to define Lion as a failure. However it's certainly not a particularly compelling update in my eyes. Really I was only after one feature - full disk encryption - but all the other bugs and annoyances ended up outweighing the benefit of that.

I know what you mean about the most recent OS releases. I think a lot of that has to do with major rewrites under the hood not in early versions of OS X and, more recently (esp. in 10.6. and 10.7), shedding of legacy code.

I know Leo Laporte from MacBreak Weekly was upset about Snow Leopard breaking a lot of his apps, and, if memory serves, he mulled over SL possibly being Apple's Vista. Most of the regulars came to SL's defense. Shockingly, Leo loves Lion, while the rest of his guests are saying it is taking some time for them to embrace it. Go figure.

 

[Eric S.]

Shame on you Apple - this is a terrible disaster - Vista at least worked even if it was slower.

I think you have forgotten all the third party drivers that broke when Vista came out.

 

[gloomcookie1]

Yup! That does the trick.

Just do it peeps!

I'll third this. I had a lot of old software and settings that definitely made everything not as pleasant. Did a clean install and pulled over my iTunes and iPhoto libraries and docs and everything has been working great since.

 

[dmcdayton]

Running cooler

Yep, my MBP Late 2008 is running much cooler and fans less often. I'd encountered about a 10degree uptick after installing Lion and the fans ran more often, even after clearing nvram etc.

++1 on the update.

 

[IzzyJG99]

Yep. Wi-Fi still dead as a door nail.

 

[Nielsenius]

Does anyone know if this update fixes the bad nVidia 330m drivers on 2010 MacBook Pros? I have that issue where the login screen freezes on 10.7.0. Downloading the update now...

 

[Steve's Barber]

Yep, my MBP Late 2008 is running much cooler and fans less often. I'd encountered about a 10degree uptick after installing Lion and the fans ran more often, even after clearing nvram etc.

++1 on the update.

10.7.1 has only been out a few hours.

 

[chrisrofnet]

Still Crashing

I can confirm that my computer is not crashing anymore retracing the steps through which I could reproduce this kernel panic 100% every time (namely switching into Mission Control from inside of Mail a few times !

I can confirm that I am still getting the kernel panic when switching to mission control using the top right hot corner, from Adobe Fireworks. Same issue, black screen, keyboard stays lit, and the machine reboots itself. 2010 Core I7 MBP Nvidia GeForce 330 M (512M)

I finally ended up deleting a file that contained "windowserver" from ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost folder. So far so good.

 

[TalonFlyer]

Sleep/Wake Issue Resolved

Lion has been very stable for me except one sleep/wake issue where the O/S would sleep and not wake up. So far this issue seems to be gone with 10.7.1, but a few more days will tell for sure.

Overall performance with Lion is much better, so I'm a happy camper.

Now, if VMWare ever releases an update for Lion, that will make my day.

 

[cvaldes]

Anyone know why they used Software Update to deliver 10.7.1 instead of just updating the app on the Mac App Store?

They want everyone running Lion to have it, not just those with Mac App Store accounts.

Also, there's a possibility that the Software Update application does a more sophisticated analysis in terms of what hardware the system has, which download package it should be retrieving and possibly miscellaneous housekeeping tasks that an OS update would require.

 

[macking104]

Have people done the basic fixings?: reset PRAM, repair disk permissions, reboot, etc?...
http://reviews.cnet.com/macfixit/?tag=mfiredir
http://www.gballard.net/macrant/osx_troubleshooting.html

 

[parapup]

I think you have forgotten all the third party drivers that broke when Vista came out.

I meant the basic stuff worked - for me it did. I still use Vista SP2 on my work laptop - been there since RTM without issues. Just got better/faster with SP1+.

Lion - basic stuff doesn't work reliably. Audio for instance.

[Shoot - Snow Leopard just grey screened on me after a long time - it's like Apple knows when I am critical of them on Macrumors LOL! ]

 

[dmcdayton]

10.7.1 has only been out a few hours.

I work from home, installed as soon as it released this AM. Its not drastic but there was something going on…ymmv. I was consistently above 142 degrees CPU, now 137, based on normal surfing…and the fans not running as much or at all..or perhaps lower RPM…

Have fun.

 

[MartiNZ]

I know Leo Laporte from MacBreak Weekly was upset about Snow Leopard breaking a lot of his apps, and, if memory serves, he mulled over SL possibly being Apple's Vista. Most of the regulars came to SL's defense. Shockingly, Leo loves Lion, while the rest of his guests are saying it is taking some time for them to embrace it. Go figure.

Interesting to hear. I stopped listening to their stuff last year as I could no longer take the Apple ass-kissing to quite that extent. I tried tuning in when the new iMacs came out, but their spreading of misinformation regarding the technology was too much to handle. Leo has always seemed to form opinions on such things very quickly, the others being more cautious, so this time around this would make sense. Personally I don't think it's a matter of embracing the new stuff, but a matter of waiting a bit for things to be fixed/reverted ... or jumping ship. And as 10.7.2 will probably be mainly iCloud-related, it could be a long wait if that path is chosen.

 

[emaja]

They want everyone running Lion to have it, not just those with Mac App Store accounts.

...but in order to get Lion - until today when they released the flash drive - was to download it from the App Store.

 

[Alvi]

Thank god I don't have to select my home wifi network every time I awake or turn on my computer!

 

[hexonxonx]

Anyone know why they used Software Update to deliver 10.7.1 instead of just updating the app on the Mac App Store?

Makes sense since I am sure that many people out there don't use the Mac App store. I only used it the one time to buy Lion and don't plan on making any further purchases in it.

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

Now how about a supplemental 10.6.8 update to fix this annoying backlight delay?

 

[MickAv8r]

Has this fixed the VNC issue? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1195549/

I'd rather not have to reinstall Lion to find out.

Don't bother it's still broken

Lion aka Vista for Mac

 

[xlii]

Two (minor) bugs still not fixed:

- In iTunes, when in Full Screen mode, the View menu option still says "Enter Full Screen" when it should say "Exit Full Screen". Selecting "Enter Full Screen" exits full screen mode (as does clicking the double arrows in the upper right corner).

I just tried this one on my 13" 2009 MBP and it worked just as expected and the view menu had the correct option listed as "Exit Full Screen".

It's strange how some have bugs and others don't.

 

[Jamie0003]

...but in order to get Lion - until today when they released the flash drive - was to download it from the App Store.

Unless you have one of the new minis or MBA.

 

[cvaldes]

...but in order to get Lion - until today when they released the flash drive - was to download it from the App Store.

That doesn't mean a specific computer will have a login with an active iTunes/Mac App Store account. I downloaded Lion from the Mac App Store on one machine, burned an installation DVD and installed it on two systems, each with a blank drive (I specifically did not want to install over Snow Leopard; I wanted a clean installation).

Also, recent purchases of Macs have Lion preinstalled. No requirement to set up an iTunes/Mac App Store account nor Apple ID.

An Apple ID/store account is not a prerequisite to run OS X Lion. It is for the actual store transaction, nothing more.

 

[CaptSaltyJack]

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Did they fix the usability monstrosity that is Launchpad? No? Never mind then.

 

[Yamcha]

I haven't had any serious issues with Lion, everything is working great, only bug that I came upon was with Launchpad.. which is when you change a wallpaper while the folder in launchpad is open, it displays two wallpapers at once, like on the screenshot below..

The update didn't fix it yet, but it's not really a big deal..