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Apple Releases Penryn-Based MacBook Pros with Multitouch
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I just spoke with livechat on apple store and here's what they said:
Me: Why $19 remote?
Apple: A lot of people were confused by it, and didn't take advantage of it.
Apple: By making it a customization, it may help people better use the device - and many may have it already from a previous Mac.
I think the Asus eee will have Blu-ray before
hahaha... it's funny because it's true.
Twice the storage of a standard DVD-R (used in the old SuperDrives).
Note: Double-layer and dual-layer are the same ... just Apple using a different word.
Any port changes?
The case looks identical to the previous revision to me -- can anyone confirm that there are no changes to provided ports?
In particular, I'm wondering if the current Bookendz docking station will work with the new MBP:
http://www.bookendzdocks.com/Docking_Stations-Docking_Station_for_15_MacBook_Pro_Firewire_800.html
(I have one of these for my PowerBook G4 which is definitely NOT the same configuration)
The case looks identical to the previous revision to me -- can anyone confirm that there are no changes to provided ports?
In particular, I'm wondering if the current Bookendz docking station will work with the new MBP:
http://www.bookendzdocks.com/Docking_Stations-Docking_Station_for_15_MacBook_Pro_Firewire_800.html
(I have one of these for my PowerBook G4 which is definitely NOT the same configuration)
I would probably go with the 250GB 5400 RPM, there is potential for the 4200 RPM to be a bit of a bottleneck, a crime with such a nice machine.
I'm actually waffling over going with the 200GB 7200 vs 250GB 5400 myself.
JT
kiskadee mentioned a 10% difference in the 2.4 vs 2.5. Does this take into account the cache ?
I use my MBP for two things... 1. Web development where I usually have 6 spaces going with tons of apps open. 2. Converting video to mp4
Can anyone tell me whether double the cache and vram is worth it for my needs ?
I use my MBP for two things... 1. Web development where I usually have 6 spaces going with tons of apps open. 2. Converting video to mp4
Can anyone tell me whether double the cache and vram is worth it for my needs ?
For those looking to compare the old specs you can go to Low End Mac http://www.lowendmac.com/macbookpro/15in-macbook-pro-june-2007.html
I'm not sure what the lower L2 cache means as far as performance. Down 4mb to 3mb on the $1999 machine. Does the 45nm make up for it? I'm sure the 200mhz does.
I'm not sure what the lower L2 cache means as far as performance. Down 4mb to 3mb on the $1999 machine. Does the 45nm make up for it? I'm sure the 200mhz does.
Wow... 2.4 GHz in the $1299 MacBook and only 2.5 GHz in the $2799 17" MacBook Pro! They could at least have given the 17" MBP the 2.6 GHz processor standard.
Love the MacBook specs, disappointed with the MBP specs. We know there are better processors out there and Apple is skimping, which they shouldn't be doing in a $2799 machine.
The MB and MBP are much too close in specs now IMHO. Good news for MacBook buyers, though!
Love the MacBook specs, disappointed with the MBP specs. We know there are better processors out there and Apple is skimping, which they shouldn't be doing in a $2799 machine.
The MB and MBP are much too close in specs now IMHO. Good news for MacBook buyers, though!
I believe the IIci preceded the Centris 650 ... BUT ... the IIci was significantly more expandable. I put a DayStar Turbo 601 100MHz PowerPC board into it and 16MB of RAM (a huge upgrade from the standard 4MB .
Another unhappy camper you are. Maybe next time you should wait on VistaRumors.com
I couldn't be happier in fact...All I said is that the last few weeks have been tough...waiting for the MBP..only because I wanted it really badly..
And to all of those complaining about the new MBP: this is a fair upgrade. Is a 300 gb hd (which the offer now anyway) going to make a big difference compared to a 250? Probably not...As for the rest of you that thought it was going to be a remake..well, no one with a good head on their shoulders was predicting that..it would have been nice....
but most importantly, if you are unimpressed by this update than wait for the next one...luckily, i am thrilled that they moved to penryn (as obvious as it was that they were going to), upped the hd size on the bottom end, went to a 256/512mb video card and incorporated the trackpad...
for those of you who don't find that to be sufficient then wait for june, july, august, september, october or whenever the next update will be! I will be enjoying my new mbp in the meantime
100% agree...i've been wanting a 12" or 13" MBP FOREVER...i'm trying to decide if i'm going to go ahead and buy the current one anyway though.
Um, why did you buy Apple ram maxed out? They charge a SIGNIFICANT premium. You should cancel that order and reorder it with the standard 2GB. Then go to crucial or owc and buy their ram for less than half the price, and you can even sell the ram you take out, making it even cheaper. Also, I imagine that you got the 2.6 instead of the 2.5 processor, which is also a bad move as it's $250 for a 0.1 GHz (negligible) improvement with absolutely no increase in cores, bus speed, or cache.
As for the hi-res LED and the 7200 RPM HDD, I concur.
Reorder it my friend.
Apple polishes its MacBook and MacBook Pro product lines - from CNN
source
The new lineup of MacBook Pros that many had expected Steve Jobs to introduce at Macworld last month did indeed arrive today, Feb. 26, as anticipated.
What was not anticipated, until this weekend, was that the MacBook line, which had been given a speed bump late last year, would also get refreshed.
The main headlines are that Apple (AAPL) has installed the latest family of Intel Core Duo 2 Penrym processors across its entire notebook line and given the MacBook Pros the new Multi-Touch trackpad introduced in the MacBook Air, with gesture support for pinch, rotate and swipe and all that good stuff.
All the machines also got larger processors and all but the low-end MacBook come installed with 2 GB RAM standard.
Otherwise, the machines look and feel the same. The giant trackpads that Apple devotees had spent hours photoshopping onto the MacBook form factor did not materialize, although the MacBook Pros do have the slightly larger trackpad introduced on the MacBook Air.
The new price points:
* 2.1 GHz, 13-inch white MacBook, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB hard drive: $1,099
* 2.4 GHz, 13-inch white MacBook, 2 GB RAM, 160 GB hard drive: $1,299
* 2.4 GHz, 13-inch black MacBook, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive: $1,499
* 2.4 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro, 2 GB RAM, 200 GB hard drive: $1,999
* 2.5 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro: 2 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive: $2,499
* 2.5 GHz, 17-inch MacBook Pro: 2 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive: $2,799
All five systems are available to order immediately from the online Apple Store. For more detail, see Apples press release here.
source
The new lineup of MacBook Pros that many had expected Steve Jobs to introduce at Macworld last month did indeed arrive today, Feb. 26, as anticipated.
What was not anticipated, until this weekend, was that the MacBook line, which had been given a speed bump late last year, would also get refreshed.
The main headlines are that Apple (AAPL) has installed the latest family of Intel Core Duo 2 Penrym processors across its entire notebook line and given the MacBook Pros the new Multi-Touch trackpad introduced in the MacBook Air, with gesture support for pinch, rotate and swipe and all that good stuff.
All the machines also got larger processors and all but the low-end MacBook come installed with 2 GB RAM standard.
Otherwise, the machines look and feel the same. The giant trackpads that Apple devotees had spent hours photoshopping onto the MacBook form factor did not materialize, although the MacBook Pros do have the slightly larger trackpad introduced on the MacBook Air.
The new price points:
* 2.1 GHz, 13-inch white MacBook, 1 GB RAM, 120 GB hard drive: $1,099
* 2.4 GHz, 13-inch white MacBook, 2 GB RAM, 160 GB hard drive: $1,299
* 2.4 GHz, 13-inch black MacBook, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive: $1,499
* 2.4 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro, 2 GB RAM, 200 GB hard drive: $1,999
* 2.5 GHz, 15-inch MacBook Pro: 2 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive: $2,499
* 2.5 GHz, 17-inch MacBook Pro: 2 GB RAM, 250 GB hard drive: $2,799
All five systems are available to order immediately from the online Apple Store. For more detail, see Apples press release here.
Multitouch!!! 17" has LED backlight on Option: Glossy or antiglare, 1920 x 1200 pixels LED!!!
I've upgraded from PowerBook 17", to MBP 17" 2.33 to MBP 17" 2.4 Santa Rosa.
Might have to upgrade again.
I might wait until display resolution independence though.
it is a marginal change from my 2.4 i bought last summer. i am glad for all of you that it came out. the cpu may run a bit cooler i wonder. that would be worth it if i were deciding on a cheaper older version and the new one. that and the mutiswipe and 40gb more standard harddisk.
nice update. ncie to see they are using the same case as well - it still ignites sexual urges within me everytime i look at it... hard to just type this message when i get these feelings rising within me... (shivers)
nice update. ncie to see they are using the same case as well - it still ignites sexual urges within me everytime i look at it... hard to just type this message when i get these feelings rising within me... (shivers)
Nice to see the multi-touch trackpads introduced onto all the notebooks, now.
Edit: Oh, wait. The MacBook didn't get multi-touch? I wonder why not...
Edit: Oh, wait. The MacBook didn't get multi-touch? I wonder why not...
As already stated this update is a minor spec boost over the existing SR MPBs.
The only thing really notable is the switch to Penryn which brings a 5-10% gain in battery life and about 1-10% in performance for regular tasks. The only big improvement is in applications which take advantage of SSE4. (media encoding etc..)
To be honest it makes used SR MBPs look like amazing deals.
The only thing really notable is the switch to Penryn which brings a 5-10% gain in battery life and about 1-10% in performance for regular tasks. The only big improvement is in applications which take advantage of SSE4. (media encoding etc..)
To be honest it makes used SR MBPs look like amazing deals.
It makes it a hell of a lot snappier.
heh
In theory maybe.
According to barefeats, vram above 128 makes no or very small difference in the games that they tested.
http://www.barefeats.com/rosa03.html
hojoon0724 said:
You COMPLETELY missed the joke, twice.
He was playing off the *new* (haha) format that is actually a typo on the apple website. "DouPle layer", the new standard in video discs, a significant upgrade from DouBle layer!